iPhone "6c" or Apple's next entry level phone

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The iPhone 5C will be two years old when the next iterations of Apple's iPhone are released in September.

While Apple is all about the premium end of the market where the bigger profit margins can be made it is concerned about the lower end of the market either for "switchers" from other ecosystems or for young people who might not be able to afford the most premium of Apple's products.

Will Apple drop the iPhone 5C completely given that it has an A6 CPU and we're heading into A9s? Does this mean Apple will reduce the price of the iPhone 5S and make this their entry phone as this will be two years old come September? The iPhone 5S has an A7 CPU and Touch ID both significant advances for Metal and security that Apple wants its consumers to have.

There don't seem to be many leaks of a new 6C so I'm guessing Apple might release a new smaller phone when it redesigns the iPhone with the release of the 7 in 2016. Would Apple release three new iPhones at one time?
 

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Ehh I don't know. It seems plausible. Would make sense to have the "runner up" quite different than the current flagship. People would more likely get the latest phone for premium materials, potentially even screen size if they make the 6C 4 inches with an A8 chip, Touch ID, etc. it could go the other way as well. I think they should have less products available at once because right now it is getting quite confusing for the average consumer.
 
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The iPhone 5C will be two years old when the next iterations of Apple's iPhone are released in September.

While Apple is all about the premium end of the market where the bigger profit margins can be made it is concerned about the lower end of the market either for "switchers" from other ecosystems or for young people who might not be able to afford the most premium of Apple's products.

Will Apple drop the iPhone 5C completely given that it has an A6 CPU and we're heading into A9s? Does this mean Apple will reduce the price of the iPhone 5S and make this their entry phone as this will be two years old come September? The iPhone 5S has an A7 CPU and Touch ID both significant advances for Metal and security that Apple wants its consumers to have.

There don't seem to be many leaks of a new 6C so I'm guessing Apple might release a new smaller phone when it redesigns the iPhone with the release of the 7 in 2016. Would Apple release three new iPhones at one time?
YES!!!!!!
 

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YES!!!!!!
The iPhone 5C will be two years old when the next iterations of Apple's iPhone are released in September.

While Apple is all about the premium end of the market where the bigger profit margins can be made it is concerned about the lower end of the market either for "switchers" from other ecosystems or for young people who might not be able to afford the most premium of Apple's products.

Will Apple drop the iPhone 5C completely given that it has an A6 CPU and we're heading into A9s? Does this mean Apple will reduce the price of the iPhone 5S and make this their entry phone as this will be two years old come September? The iPhone 5S has an A7 CPU and Touch ID both significant advances for Metal and security that Apple wants its consumers to have.

There don't seem to be many leaks of a new 6C so I'm guessing Apple might release a new smaller phone when it redesigns the iPhone with the release of the 7 in 2016. Would Apple release three new iPhones at one time?
YES, cant wait for next year!!
 

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i dont really like 5c model - it look kind of cheap like samsung phone - if 6C launch same as 5c plastic - i think not many people interested on it -
 
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Just curious OP why you might think there would be a 6c?

Apple announced the iPhone 6 and the iPhone 6+ to replace the 5s. There was no announcement for a "C" model then. That was over a year ago.

The iPhone 4s still refuses to die and remains a popular seller, so much to the point that the rumor is there will be a special optimized version of iOS 9 for the 4s.

Apple also got pummeled in the public court of opinion over the 5c.

I really don't see another "C" model. But, I've been wrong before.
 

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The iPhone 5C will be two years old when the next iterations of Apple's iPhone are released in September.

While Apple is all about the premium end of the market where the bigger profit margins can be made it is concerned about the lower end of the market either for "switchers" from other ecosystems or for young people who might not be able to afford the most premium of Apple's products.

Will Apple drop the iPhone 5C completely given that it has an A6 CPU and we're heading into A9s? Does this mean Apple will reduce the price of the iPhone 5S and make this their entry phone as this will be two years old come September? The iPhone 5S has an A7 CPU and Touch ID both significant advances for Metal and security that Apple wants its consumers to have.

There don't seem to be many leaks of a new 6C so I'm guessing Apple might release a new smaller phone when it redesigns the iPhone with the release of the 7 in 2016. Would Apple release three new iPhones at one time?
The thing is that this year is probably the most interesting in terms of what Apple will do to their iPhone lineup (in my opinion). There is little doubt that the new flagship phones for 2015 will be the iPhone 6s and 6s+. However, the interesting part comes in the mid and low-tiers. Will Apple drop the iPhone 6 and 6+ or continue to sell them? Will they make a 4.7" iPhone 6c or a 4" iPhone 6c? Will the iPhone 5s be redesigned as we have seen in the leaks or is that really the iPhone 6c (A7 or A8)? Would they keep the iPhone 5s even if it would be the only phone without support for Apple Pay? So many questions!

Next year's lineup should be "easier" to predict. iPhone 7 and 7+, iPhone 6s and 6s+ for $100 less, and the "free" iPhone would be the only mystery.
 

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I think Apple will make another C type model. It doesn't make any sense for the current 6 to be sold when the 6s is. The materials are too premium to drop the 6 $100 after a year, and another $200 another year. Chip prices go down fast, but materials don't. And there's too much incentive for people to buy the cheaper one that looks basically the same.

I think the 5C was successful. People act like it was meant to compete with the 5S. It was made so that people had to pay up to get the premium materials.
 

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The thing is that this year is probably the most interesting in terms of what Apple will do to their iPhone lineup (in my opinion). There is little doubt that the new flagship phones for 2015 will be the iPhone 6s and 6s+. However, the interesting part comes in the mid and low-tiers. Will Apple drop the iPhone 6 and 6+ or continue to sell them? Will they make a 4.7" iPhone 6c or a 4" iPhone 6c? Will the iPhone 5s be redesigned as we have seen in the leaks or is that really the iPhone 6c (A7 or A8)? Would they keep the iPhone 5s even if it would be the only phone without support for Apple Pay? So many questions!

Next year's lineup should be "easier" to predict. iPhone 7 and 7+, iPhone 6s and 6s+ for $100 less, and the "free" iPhone would be the only mystery.
If I had to guess. 6S and 6S Plus announced. 6 and 6 Plus dropped because it looks too similar to the 6S. 6C also introduced with same specs as 6 but only one size. 5C staying around as the free option with no updates.
 

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It doesn't make any sense for the current 6 to be sold when the 6s is. The materials are too premium to drop the 6 $100 after a year, and another $200 another year. Chip prices go down fast, but materials don't. And there's too much incentive for people to buy the cheaper one that looks basically the same.
So you are arguing that Apple will do to the 6 and 6+ what they did to the iPhone 5?

With the release of the 5c Apple killed the 5 so it wouldn't compete with the 5s.

As precedent has been set I could see that happening from that viewpoint.

LOL. Maybe I need to move to the S model upgrade path. That would be the second brand new iPhone model that Apple would have discontinued on me. :D
 

ipadpro

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so quite about iphone 5c since it launch ,,... people foward on 5/5s/6/6plus :)
 

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I don't see the iPhone 6 or 6+ being discontinued. The phones have sold miles better then any other iPhone before them. I believe  is working on two new iPhones and that's it. They will have four tiers of iPhones just as they do this year.

There will be two plus models and two 4.7" models. There will be one 4" model. That's pretty easy. If they discontinue the 6 and 6 plus what do they have left? To continue selling the 5c? That would be horrid.
 

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If I had to guess. 6S and 6S Plus announced. 6 and 6 Plus dropped because it looks too similar to the 6S. 6C also introduced with same specs as 6 but only one size. 5C staying around as the free option with no updates.
God I hope you're wrong. I'm sorry. The 5c staying another year is a horrible option. Where does the 5s go? What's the middle of the lineup look like? If there's no 6 or 6 Plus what do they sale for $99 and $199? Are you saying the 6c will be the $99 option but there will only be one plus model? Don't see it happening, but of course I could be wrong
 

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If I had to guess. 6S and 6S Plus announced. 6 and 6 Plus dropped because it looks too similar to the 6S. 6C also introduced with same specs as 6 but only one size. 5C staying around as the free option with no updates.
They would look too similar to the iPhone 6s and 6s+, but I don't think there is any chance of the iPhone 5c staying because it does not have a 64-bit chip and they've never kept the low-tier model for an extra year (they've always had a low-tier model with an A-chip from two generations behind, not three).
 

ipadpro

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i dont think apple will release 4inch iphone anymore , it's done ,

- people like holding big screen since 4.7/5.5 selling
- people like view on big screen not small screen
and others.
 
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So you are arguing that Apple will do to the 6 and 6+ what they did to the iPhone 5?

With the release of the 5c Apple killed the 5 so it wouldn't compete with the 5s.

As precedent has been set I could see that happening from that viewpoint.

LOL. Maybe I need to move to the S model upgrade path. That would be the second brand new iPhone model that Apple would have discontinued on me. :D
I just don't see it happening this time around on you... They take away the 6 and 6+ then they have nothing in the middle of the lineup. Nothing at all. The 5s if it stays would have to be free. There's no way they would redesign the 5s and come out with a plastic 6C. That would be four "new" iPhone models.

The lineup this year will most likely be simple.

The plus models will be $299 and $199 with the 6 plus have 16 and 32 GB...

The 4.7" models at $199 and $99. With the 6 being available in 16 or 32 GB

Then I'd say the 5s goes to free and the 5c is discontinued...

If  were working on a "6C" we would be seeing many leaks and I don't mean leaks that's already been refuted either
 
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I think what happens depends on if Apple feels that discontinuing the 5 and replacing it in the lineup with the 5C bumped sales enough to be worth the R&D cost to repeat the same thing with the 6. My guess is it didn't, so we will see the 5S as the low end and the 6 and 6+ as the mid tier with the new 6S and 6S+ being the high end.

I could also see them discontinuing the 5S and replacing it with a new version of the 5C (not sure what they would call it) that has touchID and NFC for apple pay with the other specs matching the 5S.
 

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The thing is that this year is probably the most interesting in terms of what Apple will do to their iPhone lineup (in my opinion). There is little doubt that the new flagship phones for 2015 will be the iPhone 6s and 6s+. However, the interesting part comes in the mid and low-tiers. Will Apple drop the iPhone 6 and 6+ or continue to sell them? Will they make a 4.7" iPhone 6c or a 4" iPhone 6c? Will the iPhone 5s be redesigned as we have seen in the leaks or is that really the iPhone 6c (A7 or A8)? Would they keep the iPhone 5s even if it would be the only phone without support for Apple Pay? So many questions!

Next year's lineup should be "easier" to predict. iPhone 7 and 7+, iPhone 6s and 6s+ for $100 less, and the "free" iPhone would be the only mystery.
The free phone will be the 5s,which will end with IOS 11
 

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As the OP I want to say thanks for taking part in an interesting discussion.

This is the year of the S iteration so we will likely see no new iPhone design just a refinement of the 6 and 6+

I think some people misunderstand the reason for introducing the 5C. People say Apple made a mistake or that they were heavily criticised for the 5C because it didn't sell well. They miss the point. The 5C achieved it's sales goals; essentially it was a rebadged iPhone 5. The look of it was not premium on purpose and this led to the huge sales of the iPhone 5S which was a far more expensive product to buy. This led to even greater profits for Apple.

But back to my original question what will be the new entry phone: I think the 5S will probably become the new entry phone and probably a 16GB version too. The slimmed down iOS9 should allow Apple to get away with only offering 16GB as the cheapest option. This would allow Apple to say they sell every iPhone with TouchID.

However, given how long Apple kept the original iPad mini around (almost three years and only removing it this week from stores this week) it should not shock anyone if Apple keeps the 5C around for another year before removing it.
 

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I don't see the iPhone 6 or 6+ being discontinued. The phones have sold miles better then any other iPhone before them. I believe  is working on two new iPhones and that's it. They will have four tiers of iPhones just as they do this year.

There will be two plus models and two 4.7" models. There will be one 4" model. That's pretty easy. If they discontinue the 6 and 6 plus what do they have left? To continue selling the 5c? That would be horrid.
Well didn't the 5 sell better than the phones before it (isn't it basically like that with pretty much any new version)? And they still did it with the 5.
 

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Well didn't the 5 sell better than the phones before it (isn't it basically like that with pretty much any new version)? And they still did it with the 5.
Yes, that's true, but the iPhone 6 and 6+ has been SHATTERING what they used to sale. Just take a look at quarter over quarter from years past then this past year. The increase is substantial when compared to 2014 and 2013 and 2012 and so on... I mean every iPhone will outsell the iPhone before I presume, but not in the way the iPhone 6 and 6+ have done...
 
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