This was a screenshot taken from the keynote. During the 3D touch video, when showing the haptic engine, Apple shows the battery in the CG mockup of the iPhone, and the battery can clearly be seen as 1715mAh. Do you think this pretty much confirms that size battery in the 6S?
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iPhone 6S 1715mAh battery confirmed in Keynote?
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yup. that would mean 7 hours for the 6 and 8.5 hours for the 6+
people on these boards who use their phones you always need to subtract ~3 hrs from their spec sheets
people on these boards who use their phones you always need to subtract ~3 hrs from their spec sheets
Are you using the Internet LTE usage time to gauge battery life? If so, does that subtraction of about 3 hours equate to the usage you usually obtain?
To answer my own question...
According to iFixIt's teardown, the previous vibration motor was in the exact same place as the taptic engine is this year. Judging by the render from the 3D touch video, it appears the old vibration motor is no more. Great news!
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The 7's focus will be thinness according to rumors.
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/09/06/iphone-7-thickness-ipod-touch/
The 6s battery is smaller but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's battery life is shorter. Efficiency gains could offset the reduction in capacity.
Apple are quoting identical battery life stats to the old iPhone 6 for the 6S. Smaller battery helped by a few OS efficiency savings presumably.
Personally, battery life is a real concern. I was down to buy an iPhone 6S on launch, but will now look at the Sony Xperia Z5 (2900 mAh battery vs 1715mAh) and possibly the S6 Edge+. 1 day of careful use isn't cutting it, and if I'm out and about or away from civilization, I'd rather have a couple of mm extra thickness and some chunkier power.
Looks like it isn't going to get any better for the iPhone 7 either, if rumours of ever increasing thinness are to be believed.
Personally, battery life is a real concern. I was down to buy an iPhone 6S on launch, but will now look at the Sony Xperia Z5 (2900 mAh battery vs 1715mAh) and possibly the S6 Edge+. 1 day of careful use isn't cutting it, and if I'm out and about or away from civilization, I'd rather have a couple of mm extra thickness and some chunkier power.
Looks like it isn't going to get any better for the iPhone 7 either, if rumours of ever increasing thinness are to be believed.
Battery life on android has leapfrogged iOS. Not per milliamp, but total battery life b/c they simply put bigger batteries in there and are not horribly inefficient anymore. I agree that the battery life is a real concern. Apple didn't even bother to add quick charge, which, if you've ever used it, is a really useful feature. You wake up in the morning and have like 2 % juice left. Aw crap, no juice for the first few hours of the morning...in the car, on the train, etc. But if you can find 10 minutes as soon as you wake up and charge, you've got 4 hours of useful life on a Samsung s6, which is enough to navigate to your morning breakfast meet up, get a little work done on the commute, etc. Bummer Apple!
I don't think it is in exactly the same place is it? Your photo shows the vibration motor in the process of being lifted out but, when screwed down, it is a bit lower down in the case, right next to the rear end of the lightening connector. The keynote screenshot at the top of this thread seems to me to show the haptic engine mounted slightly further into the battery area such that it takes out a part of what was space for the battery in the 6. I noticed this as they were playing the video during the keynote and immediately thought "that explains and validates the 1717mAh battery rumour. It's been made smaller because the new haptic engine has taken away about 5-10mm of height from the battery compartment".
All I can say is that 3D Touch had better be a really worthwhile improvement in how I use the phone because for my use a big price has been paid to incorporate it. All the power efficiency gains that Apple have achieved in this generation of iPhone vs the last have had to be used to compensate for having a smaller battery rather than, as I was hoping, to increase battery life.
If the rumours that surfaced about the iPhone 7 being only 6mm thick are true then we're probably going to go through the same experience next year, any gains in power efficiency from next generation components all being cancelled out by needing to cope with an even smaller battery and ending up with exactly the same overall battery life.
people if the battery is smaller there is no way it will be better battery life. if they did some type of breakthru in battery chemistry they would have bragged about it. the battery life will be same or worse. and since many complained about the 6 battery life that means you will complain about the 6S as well.
This info is already published in the iPhone comparison table on the Apple web site which now includes the 6s and 6s Plus... http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/compare/
The quoted figures for the 6s and 6s Plus are identical to their 6 and 6 Plus counterparts.
Agree that if Apple had anything to shout about they would have mentioned it. Battery life is a specification that Apple publishes so it does tend to mention it when it's improved as opposed to RAM size and clock speed for instance which it doesn't publish and we only get to know from teardowns (and battery capacity falls into that category too come to think of it).
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Note 5 is same from note 4
Yet battery life appears better
Smaller battery doesn't mean less battery life
agree but it will definitely not mean better or they would say. people complained about 6(not me) and they will complain about the 6S batt life
Yup. I'm one of the people wanting more battery life. An iPhone 6/6s with the battery life of a 6 Plus would be great and I'd pay at least $100 more for that but having seen the pictures in this thread I'm not going to complain too much about the battery life not going up with the 6s. At least now, having seen the pictures, I understand why. The haptic engine has taken space that was previously used for battery so after Apple's decision to include 3D Touch the battery capacity really did have to be reduced and the engineers have actually done a reasonable job of getting enough efficiency gains from the new electronics to preserve the existing battery life.
I'm afraid that the only options I see for a step change in battery life are...
1 - Some dramatic improvement in battery chemistry to get more mAh per unit volume.
2 - Apple backing off from it's obsession with thinness and adding 1mm or so to the thickness of the device to fit bigger batteries.
3 - A big innovation in screen efficiency. Efficiencies in the CPU/GPU/radios/etc are going well but a step-change in screen efficiency is conceivable (variable rate refresh, local LG-type refresh, quantum dots, more efficient backlight, new type of OLED, etc).
Until one or more of those come along I can't see a huge leap in battery life on the horizon. I'd love to be proved wrong though.
At least with iOS9's new low power mode those of us who care more about battery life than performance can permanently engage power save mode to downclock the CPU. My current phone is a 5 and I already find that more than fast enough for my needs, in fact I never had any issues with the 4. I'm 99% confident that when I upgrade to the 6s I'll be able to immediately set it to permanent low power mode and still be thinking "wow, this thing is noticeably faster than my old 5".
