iPhone 6S/6S Plus A9 vs. NVIDIA X1 Graphics

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  1. NickMcCandless, Sep 17, 2015
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    NickMcCandless macrumors regular

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    I understand we will not know until the benchmarks come around, but based on what we know about the A8 and the fact that the A9's GPU is 90% faster, how does everyone think the A9 will compare to NVIDIA's X1 GPU?
     
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    I think the A9 will not be comparable to the X1, but the A9X might be.
     
  3. NickMcCandless thread starter macrumors regular

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    Bummer, was really hoping to see the new iPhone outpower the X1.
     
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    I don't think it has to. The A9X should still be a powerhouse. Plus what devices will use the X1, anyway?
     
  5. NickMcCandless thread starter macrumors regular

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    I don't use the iPad though. I'm a heavy iPhone user so would like to see the powerhouse inside of the new iPhone. I preordered the 6S Plus so am already losing performance compared to the 6 because of the big resolution difference.
     
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    I see. I think the A9 should make things much more comparable between the 6s and 6s Plus.
     
  7. dmx macrumors 6502

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    It won't be close. Tegra X1 at peak performance uses about 10 watts or so (that's why essentially no one uses it in anything), whereas Apple Ax chips are typically limited to something closer to 3-4.5 watts. (Not sure on *exact* numbers there, but that's the jist of it)

    The A9 does have a die shrink going for it compared to the X1, but not enough to put it ahead. And as I said, it's not even close to a fair comparison given different power consumptions and obviously resulting thermal differences.
     
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    By the same argument, given how non-iOS devices tend to chase specs, you'll find your X1 powering a 4K display, which automatically makes it less performant than a A9 even on an iPhone 6S+. I mean look at how Sony is pairing a 4K display with a Snapdragon 810.....
     
  9. NickMcCandless thread starter macrumors regular

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    That's a very valid point. I'm just really hoping the A9 blows the socks off of the A8 because the performance boost with the A8 over the A7 was disappointing.

    Especially since thee new Apple TV is a thing and only has an A8. If they want to compete in gaming they need to push the graphics and with AirPlay maybe there could be true console-quality graphics.
     
  10. NickMcCandless thread starter macrumors regular

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    Really looking forward to the benchmarks coming out!
     
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    Sony's faking 4k, not really 4k for the UI unless watching videos..pretty pointless
     
  12. NickMcCandless thread starter macrumors regular

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    Hopefully the reviews and benchmarks are right around the corner with the release date now less than a week away
     
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    Reviews usually come out Wednesday before it goes on sale.
     
  14. NickMcCandless thread starter macrumors regular

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    Looks like the CPU info has come out about it being a dual core 1.8 GHZ CPU, any ideas on which GPU they are using based off of what we know?
     
  15. grkm3, Sep 20, 2015
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    I have the x1 Android TV tablet running asop vanilla Android and it literally laughs at anything I throw at it.

    It is like another member mentioned in a whole different power consumption league.

    It's not fair to compare them but nothing in the power envelop of a phone can come close.

    The things runs native doom 3 port that my pc struggled with at like 60fps.

    II ran some benches and it was scoring like 100fps more then the ax8 in most gaming runs.

    Here is my x1 running some benchmarks

    I just ran t Rex off screen on my gs6 and scored 56fps and ran the same test on my x1 and got 115fps its 2x the gpu power of the gs6 and the gs6 is no joke
     
  16. NickMcCandless thread starter macrumors regular

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    Based on what Apple has said and what we know, how much should we expect the iPhone 6S Plus to outpower the Galaxy S6 by with the CPU and the GPU?
     
  17. NickMcCandless thread starter macrumors regular

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    Are there any games that really take advantage of this extra power? If so which ones?
     
  18. grkm3 macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah quite a few that are specifically made for the hardware. You do know we are talking about nvidea here right lol.

    There is a huge game store on the shield TV tablet and it also has full pc games in the stream section
     
  19. NickMcCandless thread starter macrumors regular

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    Ahh got it! Forgot that they have games designed specifically to their X1. Would be nice to see more games take advantage of Apple's hardware, especially the A9. Look at how good Dead Trigger 2 looks and look at when that came out.
     
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    Yeah there are a few direct ports from the pc versions like doom 3 bfg edition.its like 6gb and is an exact copy (gfx) and game play as the pc version.

    I am also waiting for metal gear rising revengeance to come out and a few other pc hits.

    There is definitely games made directly for the x1 hardware and its gpu is a mini version of its big brothers in dedicated gaming cards sold from them
     
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    I found a believable a9 bench and they say 1.8ghz dual core and it got 66fps t Rex off screen.

    That is about 9fps higher then a gs6 but not even close to the x1 that gets 115fps.

    It's not even close lol

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    I hope it does a little better than that. Order and Chaos 2, a WoW clone, lags quite a bit on my 6+.
     
  24. grkm3 macrumors 6502a

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    That could be to poor coding also
     
  25. NickMcCandless thread starter macrumors regular

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    With the reviews and benchmarks out, has anyone heard or seen which GPU is in the A9? Also anyone seen any benchmarks outside of Geekbench? Interested in seeing graphics benchmarks.
     

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