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It is incremental, doesn't matter how much you try to twist it...
6S+ is a great product, like the 6+ that was a great product too.
They sold millions and millions, and they are still sell it.
i5 > 5S incremental
5S > i6 incremental
i6 > 6S substantial performance upgrade
i5 > 6+ huge performance downgrade
6+ > 6S+ huge upgrade
 
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How though?

Anecdotally? Sure

My 4S runs iOS 9 mostly fine too, and swiping left and right on the home screen isn't noticeably different from my 6s for example

Actual tech specs?

Not at all. Its not him "twisting" it; 2GB of RAM is very different than 1GB, and the benchmarks don't lie as to how powerful the A9 is over the A8. Its a huge difference.
Synthetic benchmarks doesn't say much about real world performance....
Is the A9 better than A8 ? Sure it is
Would you notice that during everyday usage ? Hardly since the A8 was already more than enough...

Are 2Gb better than 1Gb ? Sure, and 3 Gb would be even better.
Would you notice the difference during everyday use ? Only in specific cases ...

i5 > 5S incremental
5S > i6 incremental
i6 > 6S substantial performance upgrade
i5 > 6+ huge performance downgrade
6+ > 6S+ huge upgrade
That's plain ridiculous. Especially where you wrote iPhone 5 is better than iPhone 6+
 
Synthetic benchmarks doesn't say much about real world performance....
Is the A9 better than A8 ? Sure it is
Would you notice that during everyday usage ? Hardly since the A8 was already more than enough...

Are 2Gb better than 1Gb ? Sure, and 3 Gb would be even better.
Would you notice the difference during everyday use ? Only in specific cases ...


That's plain ridiculous. Especially where you wrote iPhone 5 is better than iPhone 6+
Maybe not on the 6 to 6s but the 6+ was poor in performance by Iphone standards. The A8 was definitely not enough as the 6+ suffered from more than just reloading issues.

The difference in the 6S+ is extremely noticeable. This is the first time where upgrading that the speed increase was the main "feature" and reasoning for my upgrade.
 
That's plain ridiculous. Especially where you wrote iPhone 5 is better than iPhone 6+

It is.
On the downside (to some) it has a smaller screen, no Touch ID, no Apple Pay and it's slightly slower (in your incremental world). The only huge downside is battery life.

On the upside it's much smoother; zero lag, zero crashing, zero screen freezing; and it holds apps & browser tabs in memory.
So overall I'd say that the positives FAR outweigh the negatives. With hindsight I would happily have kept my i5 for another 10 months and gone straight to the 6S+ for a proper upgrade. I would have saved myself some money too.
 
Maybe not on the 6 to 6s but the 6+ was poor in performance by Iphone standards. The A8 was definitely not enough as the 6+ suffered from more than just reloading issues.

The difference in the 6S+ is extremely noticeable. This is the first time where upgrading that the speed increase was the main "feature" and reasoning for my upgrade.
Agreed. In fact, the rest of the upgrade is underwhelming enough that I would have returned it if the 6+ had adequate power and memory in the first place
 
Agreed. In fact, the rest of the upgrade is underwhelming enough that I would have returned it if the 6+ had adequate power and memory in the first place

Yeah, we're all wetting our pants because the 6S+ actually performs like a premium smartphone should. If the 6+ had sufficient RAM for the job, and a CPU/GPU capable enough for the phone then I doubt that many of us would have sold our 6+, taken a hit financially and rushed out to buy the 6S+. I could have waited another year for 3D Touch, and the camera isn't an amazing improvement. We were just sold a pup with the 6+. An expensive pup.
 
Maybe not on the 6 to 6s but the 6+ was poor in performance by Iphone standards. The A8 was definitely not enough as the 6+ suffered from more than just reloading issues.

The difference in the 6S+ is extremely noticeable. This is the first time where upgrading that the speed increase was the main "feature" and reasoning for my upgrade.
I had the opportunity to use both and I can't see any substantial difference between them in performance
 
Yeah, we're all wetting our pants because the 6S+ actually performs like a premium smartphone should. If the 6+ had sufficient RAM for the job, and a CPU/GPU capable enough for the phone then I doubt that many of us would have sold our 6+, taken a hit financially and rushed out to buy the 6S+. I could have waited another year for 3D Touch, and the camera isn't an amazing improvement. We were just sold a pup with the 6+. An expensive pup.

That's the story with all non S upgrades. Apple's strategy of tick-tock cycle worked well when people were on 2 year contracts. You were supposed to wait a generation before buying. Now with many yearly upgrades including their own Apple Upgrade Program, it will be interesting to see if they move the bar more each year as opposed to half upgrades each year.
 
That's the story with all non S upgrades. Apple's strategy of tick-tock cycle worked well when people were on 2 year contracts. You were supposed to wait a generation before buying. Now with many yearly upgrades including their own Apple Upgrade Program, it will be interesting to see if they move the bar more each year as opposed to half upgrades each year.

The 6S+ really is a huge upgrade in performance though. For several generations now, ever since the i5, iPhones have been underspecced and particularly when it comes to RAM. This is the first phone that actually makes a huge leap forwards in performance and it's very much worth the upgrade in itself.
I wouldn't ordinarily buy an S model as the preceding phone would usually last me two years. Not this time though.

As for the yearly upgrade program, Apple have your money and your guaranteed sale, so they need to put even less effort into the S models...
 
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The 6S+ really is a huge upgrade in performance though. For several generations now, ever since the i5, iPhones have been underspecced and particularly when it comes to RAM. This is the first phone that actually makes a huge leap forwards in performance and it's very much worth the upgrade in itself.
I wouldn't ordinarily buy an S model as the preceding phone would usually last me two years. Not this time though.

As for the yearly upgrade program, Apple have your money and your guaranteed sale, so they need to put even less effort into the S models...
Plain false.
Nothing UNDERSPECCED in iPhone's hardware.
And there is no huge leap forward now: just the usual, solid , incremental upgrade, typical of Apple.
 
I had a 6 plus and now the 6s plus and I have to say that certain things like tabs in safari are definitely faster. But even just the overall use of the phone seems to be snappier than the 6 Plus was. Also the new touch id is insanely fast. Half the time I use one of the recorded fingers to just turn the screen on to see notifications and it reads my fingerprint and opens the phone instead.
 
I never felt the 6 was amazingly fast even when I first got it last year. However, the 6S with the extra ram, faster storage, and zippy processor, its clear as day. Hell I almost never see an app reload during app switching, and I almost never use the home button anymore with the 3D touch app switching and widget/notifications.

The average user would probably find the 6S pretty underwhelming. Power users with ADD like me want to get to things as quickly as possible, and the 6S fits the bill. This is the first phone I can say has desktop-like browser speeds in terms of load times and response.

I'm in this camp as well. I noticed a difference and take advantage of that speed improvement. I tend to use my phone intensely for 15-20 mins at a time to schedule appointments, reply to emails, add reminders, quick words with friends game, and then some other productivity required for work. During this time, the speed is important to me.
 
In this very moment I'm using two apps, mail and safari, on my iPad Air. And it's a 1 Gb device....
No, you are not. The Air 1 does not have Split Screen Multitasking.
You are just opening Mail with Slide Over and Safari pauses in the background.

So yeah
 

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The Air 1 doesn't even have the white scroll in the center.

Mini 3:
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Air 2:
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Well yeah. That's what I said.

Split screen : Air 2, Mini 4
Slide over : Air 1, Mini 3, Mini 2

The screenshot I took was from an Air 2, so that's why it has the app separator.
On the Air 1 it's not there because like I said, no split screen.
 
Well yeah. That's what I said.

Split screen : Air 2, Mini 4
Slide over : Air 1, Mini 3, Mini 2

The screenshot I took was from an Air 2, so that's why it has the app separator.
On the Air 1 it's not there because like I said, no split screen.

So right now only iPads with 2GB RAM will do this right?
 
Look, it's clear we are all not going to reach agreement on whether the new phones are significantly faster or just marginally faster than last year's models. Clearly it's going to depend heavily on how you each use an iPhone.

But those of us who are heaping praise on the performance improvements (me included) are not smoking crack. For us, it really is quite a huge difference, and one we have been hoping for for several years now. The added RAM just opens up a ton of breathing room for the OS to really shine across the board, and we feel it when we use the phone. I'm not in the habit of gushing over every iPhone release, but this one deserves it.

No, the added CPU speed and RAM does not result in everything happening 2x faster. But the gains in smoothness, responsiveness, and reliability are apparent across every function, and the ability to switch quickly between two or three or even four apps/pages at a time gives me confidence to use the phone for pretty much anything I would normally use a PC for. Now, if I want to research my next vacation, and need to have pages/apps open for multiple hotel options, flight options, and maps of the area, and switch back and forth while I do my research, I can pull that off on my phone. On last year's phones, this would not be possible.

Beyond that, this level of smoothness takes the iPhone a step further in making you forget you are using a computer. We haven't seen pixels on the display for several years. Now we don't even feel the computer inside stopping to think after we give it a command. It just responds, instantly. I may not finish things 2x faster on my 6s+, but it's much more enjoyable to use.
 
Your opinion.
In my opinion 6 and 6+ are great for web browsing.
Larger screen made them superior to any previous iPhone.

My 6S+ actually keeps apps in memory. I can go back to Tumblr an hour later and it's exactly where I left it, despite using You Tube and various other apps in the meantime. This is exactly what was missing with the 6+.
 
Apps/safari no longer have to restart/refresh overtime I switch apps. speed is faster but not a huge difference but you'll notice. TouchID is pretty much instant. Being on 128GB is worth the money. I've always used the 16gb models.
 
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