How does that help when the problem is with the lense and distance to the sensor? 4 third third cameras tend to let in less light (but allow for more compact long zooms). This just compensates for this weakness by enabling a lower ISO. All that is great for cameras with a bit of space and better optics (which is what Olympus is doing), but not incredibly fantastic for smart phones.
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iPhone 6s Rear Camera Rumored to Retain 8-Megapixel Sensor
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How does that help when the problem is with the lense and distance to the sensor? 4 third third cameras tend to let in less light (but allow for more compact long zooms). This just compensates for this weakness by enabling a lower ISO. All that is great for cameras with a bit of space and better optics (which is what Olympus is doing), but not incredibly fantastic for smart phones.
I find it interesting that while other manufactures at least upgrade the camera megapixel with a new phone, Apple likes to retains theirs, in this case 6 models.
That's a pretty long last...... Regardless how sharper photos are getting..
Maybe Apple knows they don't need to refresh the camera ? *shrugs*
That's a pretty long last...... Regardless how sharper photos are getting..
Maybe Apple knows they don't need to refresh the camera ? *shrugs*
6S will fail if that is the case.. and by fail I mean it will still sell tons, but won't have "record" profits, and the stock will drop a bit haha
You are being obtuse on purpose aren't you? The camera was refreshed, but the number of MP stayed the same.
The camera in my 6 already has way too much noise combined with overly aggressive noise reduction.
Lower pixel density is one way to combat this issue. Apple has chosen wisely not to exacerbate the issue simply by chasing MP. If anything, I wish for fewer MP and correspondingly better IQ.
So, how is it better if a bigger sensor doesn't give you more details and a noisier picture? If they could actually put a 16MP sensor in there and keep the picture quality similar, they'd have already done it. The price diff to Apple of the different modules is ridiculously small. So, it is not a question of money at all.
As for people talking about Apple keeping 8MP because of storage space, well how on earth can a 16MP be bigger if it has basically the same details because of the limitations of the lense and sensor. The file would only be bigger because of added noise; not an interesting feature that's for sure.
I mean the iPhone camera isn't trash or anything and the best camera is the one you have with you, but 'DSLR quality' is just marketing hype. Bigger sensor = more photons. A twelve year old DSLR has better image quality than the iPhone 6, and the physics and optics are just so ... different. The sad fact is that digital medium format hasn't even caught up with film yet,
The issue is that most of the complaints presented here are hogwash. Most of the complaints are about pure specs and how Apple releases subpar hardware. Then please tell me how reputed sites such as Anandtech et al. consistently test the new iPhones as the fastest smartphones around, with the best cameras?
What matters more to you? The numbers it says on the package about megapixels or the quality of the photo you just took?
If it is the former, then I think you are in the wrong forum and should probably look for an Android or Windows product. You know what you are getting with Apple. It has been like this forever and should be no surprise to anyone.
That's what i meant, the MP stayed the same, while others increased theirs with *every phone* Apple does do the same, but more slowly,,,, I often wonder why this is?
Maybe this don't need to ? They can see the rest of the industry has over-taken them...
Wow! Seriously. Do you even read what you write!?
THey don't need to because it would be USELESS to do so. There's like 1000 posts in the last year on that very subject (plus many in this thread). Please inform yourself cause right now, you sound very very slow on the uptake.
They could put 200MP sensors in their cameras and it would still be totally useless and give them worse pictures with the current focal length and lenses; read about optics, material science and then come up with a cogent response.
8mpx is joke in 2015.
Can't crop or zoom the images as they are so small. But then again, iPhone6+
camera is not that good anyway.
I think camera was biggest disappointment for me in 6+. It's as bad as 4 in low light conditions. Sure it takes nice photos in daylight, but what camera doesn't?
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With good Nokia phone you can crop the image to 25% and have as good (if not better) picture than iPhone and it's still bigger. That is a HUGE advantage in normal photography. It equals 4X optical zoom.
Can't crop or zoom the images as they are so small. But then again, iPhone6+
camera is not that good anyway.
I think camera was biggest disappointment for me in 6+. It's as bad as 4 in low light conditions. Sure it takes nice photos in daylight, but what camera doesn't?
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Technology for better images in big resolutions is here. Check out Nokia phones.
With good Nokia phone you can crop the image to 25% and have as good (if not better) picture than iPhone and it's still bigger. That is a HUGE advantage in normal photography. It equals 4X optical zoom.
Seriously, I'm tired. 1020 got beat by the Iphone 6 in DXOmark on video and pictures DESPITE the iphone being 6mm thinner and having a much smaller sensor.
Also, that phone has more inaccurate colors, it is very slow and shoot crap videos.
In photography, if you need to crop, you did a very bad job of framing the shot cause your losing precious light on your sensor. If your in fixed position and need to shoot something, your probably in a position you knew you'd need a real camera that shoots much better than your phone anyway.
I feel that this is something Apple should improve to attract people to buy the new iPhone. It's been too long and people have been using the 8mp camera. Yes it still does take awesome pics but I would like to use the zoom feature more and a 16mp camera would be better for the iPhone 6plus. If the camera doesn't improve I won't be jumping up to upgrade to the new iPhone i will wait for the iPhone 7.
8 mp is still plenty. Think about it this way, if it were 16 mp, your photo library would double in size
Photography aside, the iphone has to work as a lot of other things as well..
Like: a phone, gaming device, voice memo, and to have a few random apps on it. With limited and fixed storage a higher rez camera would kill the phone for everything else.. A few hundred photos and the phone would start to nag about space..
Or, to satisfy the people who don't understand photography and only read specs and still make the 16GB Phone usable they would have to apply 2x amount of processing afterwards to keep file sizes down.
And that would give a 16MP photo that looks worse than your old 8MP photo did.
Like: a phone, gaming device, voice memo, and to have a few random apps on it. With limited and fixed storage a higher rez camera would kill the phone for everything else.. A few hundred photos and the phone would start to nag about space..
Or, to satisfy the people who don't understand photography and only read specs and still make the 16GB Phone usable they would have to apply 2x amount of processing afterwards to keep file sizes down.
And that would give a 16MP photo that looks worse than your old 8MP photo did.
Huh! Didn't you read the rest of the thread. Zoom on a phone is ridiculous (on any phone), unless you want garbage pictures.
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This is in fact not really true. Since the lens in phones limits the detail you get on the sensor, doubling the MP, won't give you more detail, and as such, shouldn't require a bigger file at all unless it is recording the noise from the sensor itself (which it usually filters out).
Who said I ONLY care for mp numbers? I'm not even going to try w you and your "hogwash" nonsense. Go try to bother someone else in the forum w your nonsense.
Well my old 10Mpix dslr made 10MB files and my 21Mpix dslr makes 25MB files and Canons latest 50Mpix camera makes 65MB files.. So I'm quite sure that the file size goes up with the pixel count. Sharpness of the lens has never changed the file size for me. The only thing that seems to impact file size is ISO and jpeg compression witch you have to use more aggressively on larger files to keep the size down.
So, in a phone with limited amount of storage and with photos that are 99,99% aimed at low rez social media platforms I don´t see the upside of bigger files or just worse quality.
There is a Mpix file size calculator here:
http://web.forret.com/tools/megapixel_chart.asp
From the reviews I have seen (by professional review sites) the cameras on the Note 4 and the 6+ are about a tie. (some reviews have the Iphone 6+ ahead)
The note does better with digital zoom (it has twice as many pixels to zoom with)
and the Iphone does better in low light (it has larger pixels to capture more light)
But either way... The Iphone 6+ is could hardly be considered a "disappointment" as it's generally considered "in-the-running" for the best mobile phone camera right now.
I don't know what you expect.
