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iPhone 7 ... 512GB Model?

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The on thing that would catch the market out from what is being touted as a boring iteration will be releasing a 512GB iPhone 7 maybe for the top end/pro model?

"Ah we got rid of the headphone socket but hey... we've given you loads of storage", might be enough to please the crowd.

I see that dual camera needing a lot of storage and if that is the pro model people will want no question asked storage capacity on the go for long shoots.

I would expect Apple might push the boat out with 1TB storage for iPhone 8 (again for top end model) but that is a bit away, I do think they may begin that process in earnest now.

It strikes me as the one area Apple could out manoeuvre the market if they do it now regaining lost ground and would make a move to iPhone 7 more enticing for many. They then might also release larger iCloud data storage for free in tandem with what's coming for macOS Sierra and iOS 10.
 
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First I don’t think it’s going to be boring. I think people just suddenly got shallow thinking the height of innovation has nothing to do with tech and everything to do with dramatic physical redesign.


I would be grateful for a 256 model so I can fit all my music and podcasts without micromanaging it, but I don’t see anybody needing more than that on such a small screened device. Are people really going to want all their movies and TV shows (only available if you bought them from iTunes) on there? Large photo libraries are already handled by iCloud sync that automatically puts the full res version in the cloud and stores a low res copy on the iPhone to save space.
 
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I think 256 is a certainty and easily predicted and expected. However I think 512Gb might be for Pro as an intro, by the time iP8 arrives 512Gb will be the norm while the iP8 pro will be 1TB.

I think this will tend trickle to the iPad pro range not long after.
 
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** Sorry I balls'd up the title... should read 512GB***

The on thing that would catch the market out from what is being touted as a boring iteration will be releasing a 512GB iPhone 7 maybe for the top end/pro model?

"Ah we got rid of the headphone socket but hey... we've given you loads of storage", might be enough to please the crowd.

I see that dual camera needing a lot of storage and if that is the pro model people will want no question asked storage capacity on the go for long shoots.

I would expect Apple might push the boat out with 1TB storage for iPhone 8 (again for top end model) but that is a bit away, I do think they may begin that process in earnest now.

It strikes me as the one area Apple could out manoeuvre the market if they do it now regaining lost ground and would make a move to iPhone 7 more enticing for many. They then might also release larger iCloud data storage for free in tandem with what's coming for macOS Sierra and iOS 10.
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Chew Toy McCoy said:
First I don’t think it’s going to be boring. I think people just suddenly got shallow thinking the height of innovation has nothing to do with tech and everything to do with dramatic physical redesign.


I would be grateful for a 256 model so I can fit all my music and podcasts without micromanaging it, but I don’t see anybody needing more than that on such a small screened device. Are people really going to want all their movies and TV shows (only available if you bought them from iTunes) on there? Large photo libraries are already handled by iCloud sync that automatically puts the full res version in the cloud and stores a low res copy on the iPhone to save space.
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Dual camera. Video. If you have all your stuff on it, you also want room for your PRO work, I mean I use up the vast majority of my space with family videos very quickly.

I really think the PRO model will need to be beefed up on the storage front, even if it costs a lot to have it as an option would be crucial. Phone will become like buying a macbook pro. I assume this is the plan to make even more dough but that's fine for those who want it. More options is good in a clearly defined platform.

I expect Apple will borrow form both platform what works as time goes on. Like a smart connector in the new macbook pro will be a great tie in with the iPhone pro and iPad pros that now sport it if you can follow the logic and might get around the no magsafe 2... I've written about that idea before in the Mac Pro threads.
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Thanks! ;)
 
Cost is a consideration. Let’s say they are dropping the 16 GB model. Do you think they are going to offer them in 32, 64, 128, 256, and 512 models? That’s way too many options and too much of a spread to try to justify price differences. Apple has always overcharged for storage and RAM and I don’t see them dialing that back now. I’m sure the iPhone 7 will be a success but I don’t think on the level of past iPhones and not the time to confuse things further with so many options. I think larger drives will probably hit the iPad line first as a test run.
 
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Cost is a consideration. Let’s say they are dropping the 16 GB model. Do you think they are going to offer them in 32, 64, 128, 256, and 512 models? That’s way too many options and too much of a spread to try to justify price differences. Apple has always overcharged for storage and RAM and I don’t see them dialing that back now. I’m sure the iPhone 7 will be a success but I don’t think on the level of past iPhones and not the time to confuse things further with so many options. I think larger drives will probably hit the iPad line first as a test run.
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Only the PRO model, since there will be 3 iPhone's to choose from. Or 2 mass consumer models with 1 Pro.

It would be perfectly within parameters and established form of other ranges to offer the pro in higher spec and starting at higher spec. for e.g. it might come as the only model with 128,256,512, with prices to match.

Whereas the other model may come in at 64,128,256 due tp mass market price point consideration and expectation/satisfaction.

Going by your logic (which I believe is correct), this represents more market share to overcharge for RAM/Storage :)

It's entirely justifiable if you are differentiating with a PRO model, Apple can afford to offer more as Apple will charging more without hurting it's mass appeal models. It can only gain and if it loses it won't be to the mainstream sales.

People are fixating so much on the one killer iPhone I think it's creating a blindspot, as a one device fits all in a maturing market is untenable now, but that has been clear for some time and apple moved the way with the intro of it's larger models.

The real development and innovation will come by way of multi-offering from now until market forces change again or demand something else. Computers were not always available in 3,4,5 or more models on release and was something that took a long time to change but now would be unthinkable. You might argue it's over saturated at this point. It was usually jsut one type at the beginning of the age.

It's the only way to innovate along the curve. It's impossible to repeat the same performance with just one product. The first iPhone effect was never going to last forever. Those days are past but Apple made that market and made the most out of it, no one else can really do it, no on has to my mind repeated it since and not even Apple would try. You can see how this is becoming a pattern across platform ranges.

This is maturity of the development cycle as more and more users come online more and more people are going to use them in more ways that thought of before but you don't have to sell all of them the PRO hardware (or whatever you market as).

Maybe Android got there first with the over-saturation and Apple can make up lost ground with the market burn consumers might be suffering from there, they still make the money and only really have to add 3 models to be good for the next 5+ years and they can innovate each of those for the next while. We're seeing the intro of a new phase. I do not expect to see 7 iPhone models in 5 years. I owed wager it will remain at 3 for nearly as long as it remained as one, or relatively speaking as cycles/markets move quicker.
 
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The three different models is just a rumour and it's already been said that most likely Apple has made three prototypes as there was uncertainty as to whether the dual lend camera would be available in sufficient quantities. More then likely there will only be two different models as there are now. I also highly doubt that 512GB of storage is cost effective yet and the most we will likely see is a 256GB model. I also doubt a 512GB model will be released for the iPhone 8 next year. That amount of storage is not really necessary on an iPhone like it is on an iPad.
 
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I would be grateful for a 256 model so I can fit all my music and podcasts without micromanaging it, but I don’t see anybody needing more than that on such a small screened device. Are people really going to want all their movies and TV shows (only available if you bought them from iTunes) on there? Large photo libraries are already handled by iCloud sync that automatically puts the full res version in the cloud and stores a low res copy on the iPhone to save space.
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I have a ton of content on my phone that I didn't get through iTunes. Why would you think that's a limiting factor? I also don't pay for extra cloud storage and like to keep my pictures with me (physically backed up at home). Lots of music too.

I'd take 512 if it were an option but will be fine with 256.
 
Well I would say that Apple is most probably going only have 2 models but they will start at 32gb as the base model, then the next step up would be 128gb and then 256gb.
 
Dreamers come, and dreamers go on this forum all the time. And they're always wrong. Next please
 
Really 512GB that's over kill even 256GB is over kill
[doublepost=1470779905][/doublepost]You can't be that huger on space I think 128GB will do most people just find but 256 512 and 1TB is just over kill
 
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Dreamers come, and dreamers go on this forum all the time. And they're always wrong. Next please
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I accept that response but only in a facile way.

However despite being a very active dreamer. I am not engaged in wishful thinking. I am thinking strategically from Apples point of view in the context of all the criticisms I read here which are very acute and often entirely valid to inform my future outlook.

The way I see it now. Having watched a lot of old jobs interview in the lead up to the iPhone. There clearly has been a conscientious departure from the no leaks policy under Jobs.

I'm not saying "jobs wouldn never have done this", but jobs would never have done this, i.e. leak, nor has time, but there is a noticeable rise in unofficial leaks to my mind. Which is neither a bad or good thing. I think it's a modification of strategy for a world that demands more than it did before in terms of news. It's also a lot more crowded.

If Apple has decided to actively leak here and there maybe marketing are allowed have more fun and control. Some of it might be kite flying, to get raw feedback and some of it may be to keep people off the trail. Apple would no matter what always want to control the information flow leaks or not and that would be well within the Spirit of no leaks Jobs Apple / control culture.

In summary, if there are more leaks now it's a strategy. I think one to keep control. It's a good way to keep you edge.

So I'm thinking what can they surprise us with, that will not be expected or is on off the radar, while having a little fun in the meantime.
 
I think you eventually reach a point of diminishing returns. I can't imagine the demand for 512gb of storage on a phone would be large enough to justify production. I guess you could record in 4k to your heart's content though.
 
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Really 512GB that's over kill even 256GB is over kill
[doublepost=1470779905][/doublepost]You can't be that huger on space I think 128GB will do most people just find but 256 512 and 1TB is just over kill
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I think if some is using their phones for 4K media production more than anything else 512GB storage is not overkill. Remember most people do not "talk" on their phones anymore rather they use text, social media, Skype, etc. With advances in photo/video technology the iphone is literally a portable media production center fully capable of producing an episodic adventure series.
 
Omega Mac said:
I accept that response in a facial way.

However despite being a very active dreamer. I am not engaged in wishful thinking. I am thinking strategically from Apples point of view in the context of all the criticisms I read here which are very acute and often entirely valid to inform my future outlook.

The way I see it now. Having watched a lot of old jobs interview in the lead up to the iPhone. There clearly has been a conscientious departure from the no leaks policy under Jobs.

I'm not saying "jobs wouldn never have done this", but jobs would never have done this, i.e. leak, nor has time, but there is a noticeable rise in unofficial leaks to my mind. Which is neither a bad or good thing. I think it's a modification of strategy for a world that demands more than it did before in terms of news. It's also a lot more crowded.

If Apple has decided to actively leak here and there maybe marketing are allowed have more fun and control. Some of it might be kite flying, to get raw feedback and some of it may be to keep people off the trail. Apple would no matter what always want to control the information flow leaks or not and that would be well within the Spirit of no leaks Jobs Apple / control culture.

In summary, if there are more leaks now it's a strategy. I think one to keep control. It's a good way to keep you edge.

So I'm thinking what can they surprise us with, that will not be expected or is on off the radar, while having a little fun in the meantime.
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If 512gb storage is Apple's strategy to wow their fans, then the forum is right. They have stopped innovating...
 
snow755 said:
Really 512GB that's over kill even 256GB is over kill
[doublepost=1470779905][/doublepost]You can't be that huger on space I think 128GB will do most people just find but 256 512 and 1TB is just over kill
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I think the upticks in the iPad range will be sooner outdone by the iPhone range.

It's kind of illogical but not on volume, while the larger storage is on the iPad and you might think you'll need it on that the truth is the iPhone is the volume seller and it is this model you can bring the cost down by sheer purchasing muscle because of volume. Then that will feed back into the iPad, where there maybe a tick tock aspect to it. The initial up in the iPad is a signal that iPhone is sure gonna get it and below is a quick flip flop tick tock of the possible sequence, over the next so many years.

iPad 256
iPhone 512
iPad 512
iPhone 1TB
iPad 1TB
 
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