iphone 7 Plus is DARKER than 6s Plus

moophone

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I'm glad I didn't pay for this iphone 7 plus sitting beside the 6S Plus.

At maximum brightness the 7Plus is actually dimmer!! significantly so! There is no brightness gain from just under half way on the brightness slider to max. It does nothing at all in this range. Compared to my 6splus beside it which looks far brighter. It looks really washed out also.

Is this a known issue with the "daylight sensor" and maximum brightness? I'm looking at at night fairly dim lighting, nor does it make any difference under really bright lighting.
[doublepost=1477526204][/doublepost]okay I rebooted the 7plus and it fixed the issue for now. Maybe I needed to reboot after the upgrade for the brightness settings to recognize the new phone.

Although it definitely doesn't look any brighter, maybe still a hair darker than the 6s plus. the icons are darker also

EDIT: I reset settings on the 7Plus. Didn't help. Anyone have any ideas before I take it back to Apple?
 
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beernut

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Did you try checking other settings besides what's in "display & brightness"?

In particular, general --> accessibility
-increase contrast --> reduce contrast and/or darken colors
-display accommodations --> reduce white point
 
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moophone

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Both are off for both devices.

Its weird. If I disable auto brightness on both devices and max them both out, the blues seem slightly more saturated on the 6s Plus. They are deeper and richer, where the reds on the 7 Plus are darker. The SEttings screen has a clearly different white point. The 6s plus is bluer, where the 7 Plus is yellower. The 6s Plus is still brighter though.
 
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Thor_1

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Both are off for both devices.

Its weird. If I disable auto brightness on both devices and max them both out, the blues seem slightly more saturated on the 6s Plus. They are deeper and richer, where the reds on the 7 Plus are darker. The SEttings screen has a clearly different white point. The 6s plus is bluer, where the 7 Plus is yellower. The 6s Plus is still brighter though.
pictures please
 

Applefan4515

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Did you try checking other settings besides what's in "display & brightness"?

In particular, general --> accessibility
-increase contrast --> reduce contrast and/or darken colors
-display accommodations --> reduce white point
Thank you for that. I was just comparing my 7 plus to my iPad Air 2 and thinking the phone looked dimmer. Shrugged it off but when I seen your post I made my way to the settings and the reduce white point was somehow on. Now my phones back to being awesome. It was awesome before but it's even better now!
 

HEK

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Thank you for that. I was just comparing my 7 plus to my iPad Air 2 and thinking the phone looked dimmer. Shrugged it off but when I seen your post I made my way to the settings and the reduce white point was somehow on. Now my phones back to being awesome. It was awesome before but it's even better now!
I believe I have read that for the 7 to reach max brightness the the auto brightness has to be on.
 

Mr_Killjoy

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The 7, in most uses, is dimmer. In bright sunlight and for the selfie flash it's brighter. Every other way though it's just not as bright.

Personally I'm skipping the 7. Too many little annoyances, and not enough features to justify buying one.
 

Gathomblipoob

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The 7, in most uses, is dimmer. In bright sunlight and for the selfie flash it's brighter. Every other way though it's just not as bright.

Personally I'm skipping the 7. Too many little annoyances, and not enough features to justify buying one.
Well, aren't you Mr. Killjoy...






Oh, wait...
 

jonstatt1

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For the original poster. iPhones limit brightness when hot. The phone gets hot after a restore which is also just when you are most likely to be looking closely at the screen. The full brightness comes back as it cools but restarting sometimes makes this happen sooner.
 

NovemberWhiskey

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I have now seen 5 iphone 7 pluses throughout my family members. And examined every unit at two stores. All units are more yellow, with some being more yellow than others. Some have blotches, and some are uneven, and some are uniform. All are dimmer and have less contrast, and of the 5 in my family, the 7 plus colors are more washed out compared to the 6S Plus. I didn't compare this in store so I can't say that for all units. They also seem to be dimmer than the 6S Plus, but that may just be the more yellow screen and the lower contrast affecting my perception of brightness.

I have no idea how people are raving about the colors on this new phone. I'm really lost and befuddled on this. This does happen every year, but this is the first time I have yet to see one good phone. There was one phone which was better than all the others at The Grove in LA, but besides that one I have preferred my 6S Plus every single time.

The most shocking difference is the orange in an app called 5miles, which appears brownish on the 7 plus. Surely that can't be right.

Anyone know who the screen supplier is? Did they change it this year?
 

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Both are off for both devices.

Its weird. If I disable auto brightness on both devices and max them both out, the blues seem slightly more saturated on the 6s Plus. They are deeper and richer, where the reds on the 7 Plus are darker. The SEttings screen has a clearly different white point. The 6s plus is bluer, where the 7 Plus is yellower. The 6s Plus is still brighter though.
color temp can and will vary from one phone to another. It has always been this way.
 

moophone

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More yellow is actually more white in this case. The iphone 7 plus definitely has more saturation on the greens and reds. Yellows and blues are about the same in my experience. That's based on my personal experience anyway. What that leads to is a more neutral white point vs the 6s plus. I think this is why I thought the 6s plus was brighter initially. I see now that the 7Plus is "25% brighter" only to maintain the same perceived brightness b/c its peak brightness had to be adjusted spectrally because of the more neutral white point. If that is true, that is fairly misleading marketing.

I have now seen 5 iphone 7 pluses throughout my family members. And examined every unit at two stores. All units are more yellow, with some being more yellow than others. Some have blotches, and some are uneven, and some are uniform. All are dimmer and have less contrast, and of the 5 in my family, the 7 plus colors are more washed out compared to the 6S Plus. I didn't compare this in store so I can't say that for all units. They also seem to be dimmer than the 6S Plus, but that may just be the more yellow screen and the lower contrast affecting my perception of brightness.

I have no idea how people are raving about the colors on this new phone. I'm really lost and befuddled on this. This does happen every year, but this is the first time I have yet to see one good phone. There was one phone which was better than all the others at The Grove in LA, but besides that one I have preferred my 6S Plus every single time.

The most shocking difference is the orange in an app called 5miles, which appears brownish on the 7 plus. Surely that can't be right.

Anyone know who the screen supplier is? Did they change it this year?
 

Thor_1

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I have now seen 5 iphone 7 pluses throughout my family members. And examined every unit at two stores. All units are more yellow, with some being more yellow than others. Some have blotches, and some are uneven, and some are uniform. All are dimmer and have less contrast, and of the 5 in my family, the 7 plus colors are more washed out compared to the 6S Plus. I didn't compare this in store so I can't say that for all units. They also seem to be dimmer than the 6S Plus, but that may just be the more yellow screen and the lower contrast affecting my perception of brightness.

I have no idea how people are raving about the colors on this new phone. I'm really lost and befuddled on this. This does happen every year, but this is the first time I have yet to see one good phone. There was one phone which was better than all the others at The Grove in LA, but besides that one I have preferred my 6S Plus every single time.

The most shocking difference is the orange in an app called 5miles, which appears brownish on the 7 plus. Surely that can't be right.

Anyone know who the screen supplier is? Did they change it this year?
I have 5 iPhone 7s (2 7/3 7+). 4 of them are at least as bright and clear as the 6s's we have. There is no yellow, unevenness and they are uniform. The last + is slightly warmer, but this is only noticeable on MAX brightness when compared to another phone on max brightness, so it is really a non issue. Besides, the person who has that phone is happy with it.
 

formerpc

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I find that with Automatic Brightness on, when I'm in full direct sunlight, I can see my 7 Plus screen perfectly. No color distortion whatsoever, either. I could not say that about my 6s. Sunlight was my enemy. I find that my 7 Plus can also get much much darker than my 6s ever could, which comes in handy in dark situations where I don't want to be blinded.
 
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