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... Just a fashion statement, just a new paint job and tiny speck "bumps"...
 
the glossy black one is awful TBH it's super tacky and it's made for people who use covers ..awful covers!

I think the Jet Black iPhone will definitely scratch easily, with swirls and scuffs. Even some cases can contribute to the scratches and swirls. I personally will avoid this color this reason. Although, I do think it's an attractive color. But I'm a perfectionist and Scratches would annoy me greatly.
 
So essentially the iPhone 7 is what it was supposed to be. Apple hasn't made a big leap with phones since the introduction of the iPhone 4. Not counting putting a bigger screen.

Man, you really are a troll...
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"But compared to the iPhone 6S, the iPhone 7 is a step improvement, not a major leap."
"The iPhone 7 and 7 Plus clearly hold their own, but I don’t think they blow the pack away."

And it comes from 'The Verge" :) Nothing but the hype (fake one) on the new cameras :)

The Verge, especially dumbass Patel, has been on bash Apple tear lately so their "meh" comments are expected.
 
After seeing the Jetblack even briefly in those videos, I can sense all the fingerprints and tiny scratches even through my screen... pushing me a bit towards canceling my order and getting the regular black one.. damn, tough decision, I love the unibody feel, but not sure..

Get a slim see through case. Of course that's if you're into accessories like that.
 
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If the people using phrases like 'if Steve Jobs were alive......', 'this would never happen under Steve Jobs...', realised how juvenile they sound, they would stop.

Steve Jobs is dead - accept it. He's never coming back. No one EVER will be like Steve Jobs. What he WOULD have done is totally irrelevant at this point. Please move on to something actually pertinent to discussions here.

well said. but hey, those guys are mostly haters anyway, so why do we even care?
 
Why do people always say they're not "essential upgrades"? Do they think everyone upgrades yearly?

This is a fantastic upgrade for anyone NOT on a 6S.
One thing that a lot of the reviews do not do is to compare the 7 to the 6. They all seem to compare it to the 6s. That doesn't tell me a whole lot about how significant the changes will be to someone who is coming from a 6. I guess they DO think everyone upgrades yearly:)
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So glad I switched from the jet black to matte at last second. Even though I use a case it would've driven me crazy to have it start scratching within a week.

I stuck with the jet black, but I'm going to put one of those crystal clear cases on it. Hopefully that'll do the trick.
 
apple need to add fast charging and wireless charging and a bigger battery for me to change to a iPhone.apple is 5 years behind android phones.they need qi charging not there own charging where i have to have a apple wireless charing pad to charge my iPhone.
 
Sorry that my personal experience offended you in some way. The 7 plus will beat the SE's battery by a long shot buddy.
Keep your personal experience to yourself next time. Just because YOU experienced 4hrs battery life doesn't mean everyone else does or needs to be told. Hope you feel better with your plus experience.
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Amen, picked one up after i sold my 6 plus and i'm pretty happy, the battery life is exceptional as is the speed, and the fact my thumb can swipe the whole screen as i hold it one handed, I'll be back for the iphone 8, but I'm happy with the SE
Good on ya. I sold my 128GB iPhone 6 to get the SE. I was debating for the longest time, more storage or better battery life and back to my favourite design. In the end, 64GB is enough for my usage, but some people here feel only the latest and largest one is the right choice.

Everybody's needs are different, but the SE offers a lot for a lot less $$.
 
One thing that a lot of the reviews do not do is to compare the 7 to the 6. They all seem to compare it to the 6s. That doesn't tell me a whole lot about how significant the changes will be to someone who is coming from a 6.

Ben on CNBC has the 6 and is skipping the 7 for the 10th year anniversary edition.

 
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Keep your personal experience to yourself next time. Just because YOU experienced 4hrs battery life doesn't mean everyone else does or needs to be told. Hope you feel better with your plus experience.

It's 4-5 hours if you are a very heavy user. I use my gps all day long while browsing the internet, doing conferences calls, taking pictures, the screen is on all day long. It's about the same as the 6. But for a "super extreme heavy user" like myself, 4-5 hours on the SE and 6 suck, better for lighter users. (came from a 6S+ to an SE)

Honestly the SE is great from a form factor and one-hand usability standpoint. With the release of the 7's the SE's now in 2nd place if you're looking at performance, battery, and camera. Maybe next year I'll go back once they have edge-to-edge SE along with rest of the sizes. That one will probably have a slightly bigger screen and better battery by then.
 
When is iPhone is an essential update from previous version :)
Sentence this no sense is making.
Well, for some people these updates are essential. The iPhone 7 is a very good reason to upgrade for many users. And despite not being the first to drop the old fashioned headphone jack, Apple will be remembered for getting rid of it and push the way forward for a better user experience
 
Before I went into automotive my original career choice was going to be audio engineering. So yes, I know exactly what a Chord Mojo is. And you're not going to be able to BS someone who is well grounded in both electrical theory and audio.

Next I suppose you're going to tell me a $1,000 set of cables will sound better than a $20 set.

And your last paragraph completely lost me. You seem to be contradicting yourself or being sarcastic. It's hard to tell which.

I keep running into people on MR that just happen to be self proclaimed experts....it's a skill I guess ;)

as a would be sound engineer , I suggest you audition the mojo vrs your lightning cable , and get back to me. Could not care what your career choices might have been, does not mean you know what you are talking about ;)

Wow you pulled the cable debate, amateurish , you should have asked if I believe a £1000 USB cable makes a difference .... Cause that is where he real BS high audio exists. And the cable post just confirms that you don't get high end audio, so you believe every single cable , in an analogue world sounds the same? Wow. Trust me there is a lot of BS and crap being sold at huge prices, but your ears must need checking if you cannot tell the difference when you Change cables. You passes electronics right ?

you realise the Lightning port cable solution has a major problem with power to run higher impedance headphones.....why do you think I own the mojo ? So I can get into silly debates about the DAC quality? It's also an amp, put two and two together , it's a far superior product cause it will even let me run my senheiser HD800 heaphones , run those from a lightning port.

My advice , try your $500 headphones using your $50 cable and the mojo, and come back to me . You sound like someone who has a $500 heaphones and knows everthing about audio ...sorry mate, those are just decent heaphones, nothing special at all in the grand world that is high end headphones.
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I hate him because during that debacle he went from crybaby to bully & horrifically cyberbullied an elderly man, calling him all kinds of names, posting his photo and saying "at least I don't look like this", making ageist & racist comments- showing the world what a lowlife scumbag he is.
As to your comment:
Sure... on some very manly men; a Milanese loop may look absurd (so might an Apple Watch in general). On a svelte, hip, or fashionable man- it would look fine.
Since the gentleman (and I use the term VERY loosely) that we're referring to is in no way muscled, or a roughneck, or manly in any way I can think of- I deem that "excuse" ridiculous for him.

I read the review and saw the backlash on MR, beyond that I did not follow the story anymore, nor cared what nijay(spelling) published on the verge or social media, he does not exist on my radar.

I though understand why you dislike the man though, if he bullied someone over social media, stupid thing to do. As I stated, I don't trust any major publications reviews these days, it's people reviews that I follow, so looking forward to Friday to head feedback on the phone.

Quick summary: I can't pull off the Milanese loop on my wrist, so I damn well will criticise it!!!! :p
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Not all lightning audio cables have a built in DAC. The earpods dont, none of the cheaper stuff does. You need power to drive a DAC and the DAC is usually integrated into the headphones when it comes to lightning headphones. Look at Philips Fidelio

All lightning cables need a DAC . All heaphones require a DAC. Care to explain how you believe "cheap" lightning cables work without a DAC? It's not a feature of the more expansive gear.
 
Oh jesus. Are you just as daft as most people bitching about headphone jacks? The removal of the headphone jack and using lightning / digital is the BEST ****ING THING EVER. Want proof? http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/9/12859858/no-headphone-jack-iphone-7-reaction

Read what Sennheiser, Audio Technica and other PROFESSIONAL HIGH END AUDIO companies have said. I would take wired headsets that have active noise cancelling, eq balancing via app, DAC built-in over analog piece's of **** that have been around for too long.

Congratulations, you win the award for most ignorant post on macrumors today, and that's an impressive feat. Sennheiser's wireless Momentum 2.0 phones have their admirers, but those who don't like them acknowledge that they're ridiculously overpriced and barely on par with $200 cans. The Audeze lightning phones have had a mixed reception at best (you ARE aware that the EL-8 are generally considered to be a near complete failure, and the Sines have had very mixed reviews, right?). There is definitely no consensus that the Audeze Cipher cable is worth the cost, and there are plenty of other options in the audiophile field.

Heck, I own several Lightning DACs, ranging from relatively inexpensive inline cable versions to my Oppo HA-2, which generally goes for $300 or so. In real world usage, none of them get even close to 25% of the usage of the regular headphone out on my iPhone 6S Plus. Why? Because power issues (unpowered DACs drain battery, powered ones require charging), because of convenience, and because the benefit in audio really only presents itself in very quiet environments where I'm concentrating on the sound. Using TIDAL instead of iTunes provides a better benefit in sound than switching my iPhone headphone connection to any of my DACs other than the aforementioned (and significantly more expensive) HA-2.
 
The reviews is starting to sound the same every year. Terrific phones but doesn't change much. Not an essential upgrade. Feels like deja vu everytime I read reviews for iPhones annually. Part of that has to do with having the leaks happening in spring. Becomes predictable. Like looking for spoilers for a Star Wars movie. By the time you watch, you know exactly how the story unfolds. The other part is that Apple stopped innovating.

I was saying this is the 7 to get back in July. Looks like I am wrong because I'd rather get the Note7 bombshell instead. I also could be underestimating what the iPhone 8 could end up being. Imagine the people who got excited just because Apple offered two black options for the 7? That's just changing the color and people went nuts. Now imagine when the new design of the iPhone 8 arrives?
 
I keep running into people on MR that just happen to be self proclaimed experts....it's a skill I guess ;)

as a would be sound engineer , I suggest you audition the mojo vrs your lightning cable , and get back to me. Could not care what your career choices might have been, does not mean you know what you are talking about ;)

Wow you pulled the cable debate, amateurish , you should have asked if I believe a £1000 USB cable makes a difference .... Cause that is where he real BS high audio exists. And the cable post just confirms that you don't get high end audio, so you believe every single cable , in an analogue world sounds the same? Wow. Trust me there is a lot of BS and crap being sold at huge prices, but your ears must need checking if you cannot tell the difference when you Change cables. You passes electronics right ?

you realise the Lightning port cable solution has a major problem with power to run higher impedance headphones.....why do you think I own the mojo ? So I can get into silly debates about the DAC quality? It's also an amp, put two and two together , it's a far superior product cause it will even let me run my senheiser HD800 heaphones , run those from a lightning port.

My advice , try your $500 headphones using your $50 cable and the mojo, and come back to me . You sound like someone who has a $500 heaphones and knows everthing about audio ...sorry mate, those are just decent heaphones, nothing special at all in the grand world that is high end headphones.

So typical. You know you're wrong and are resorting to insults: "you passes electronics right"? Shouldn't that be "passed"? If you're going to insult someone's intelligence or imply they failed at school, at least get the spelling right, lest you make yourself look foolish.

Or "would be sound engineer". Oooooh, another poor attempt at a dig. FWIW, back in the 80's when I was in school I used to modify studio recording consoles. At that time there were big advancements in op-amps (like the NE5532/34) and I would replace these in consoles. For some you could drop them right in and for others you had to modify the circuit slightly to work. I also used to fit fully balanced differential front ends to channel strips that were either unbalanced or used transformers for their balanced input. Another mod I did was changing channel routing for strips based on a specific need they had. I also used to do a lot of custom wiring to connect all the studio gear along with making custom patch bays.

I've also been an audiophile since the 80's having owned (very proudly) almost exclusively Canadian made gear by companies like PSB, Energy and Bryston. Which also happens to be the type of gear that the snobby audiophiles (the ones who believe cables sound different) hate so much because it offers the same performance as their favorite esoteric brands that cost several times more.

Now back to your incorrect comments.

First off, I stated the Mojo could drive headphones to higher levels because it has greater output. So why are you bringing up something I already said?

Second, I'm talking about sound quality, not output. You stated something as a fact without even knowing if it was true (that a Mojo driving Audeze headphones would sound better than the Lightning cable). Yet you were calling someone out the other day for stating something without providing evidence (that Samsung rushed the Note 7). Gee, that's not hypocritical AT ALL.

You're going on and on about the Mojo but you're forgetting one simple thing: the Cipher cable for Audeze headphones is matched specially to each model. It has a high end DAC, DSP processor tuned for the specific headphone and amplifier matched to the drivers. It likely can't play as loud as a Mojo (which I already said), but it's sheer stupidity to think a generic DAC and amplifier are going to sound better.

Anyway, that's my simple explanation. If you think I'm wrong (I'm not) we can discuss electrical engineering as it relates to the principles of audio. Just let me know your comfort level and I'll try to KISS for you.
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Congratulations, you win the award for most ignorant post on macrumors today, and that's an impressive feat. The Audeze lightning phones have had a mixed reception at best (you ARE aware that the EL-8 are generally considered to be a near complete failure, and the Sines have had very mixed reviews, right?).

I'd love to see your list of Sine reviews that are "mixed". The majority of the ones I read give them a very good rating. So please provide your list so I can compare.
 
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So typical. You know you're wrong and are resorting to insults: "you passes electronics right"? Shouldn't that be "passed"? If you're going to insult someone's intelligence or imply they failed at school, at least get the spelling right, lest you make yourself look foolish.

Or "would be sound engineer". Oooooh, another poor attempt at a dig. FWIW, back in the 80's when I was in school I used to modify studio recording consoles. At that time there were big advancements in op-amps (like the NE5532/34) and I would replace these in consoles. For some you could drop them right in and for others you had to modify the circuit slightly to work. I also used to fit fully balanced differential front ends to channel strips that were either unbalanced or used transformers for their balanced input. Another mod I did was changing channel routing for strips based on a specific need they had. I also used to do a lot of custom wiring to connect all the studio gear along with making custom patch bays.

I've also been an audiophile since the 80's having owned (very proudly) almost exclusively Canadian made gear by companies like PSB, Energy and Bryston. Which also happens to be the type of gear that the snobby audiophiles (the ones who believe cables sound different) hate so much because it offers the same performance as their favorite esoteric brands that cost several times more.

Now back to your incorrect comments.

First off, I stated the Mojo could drive headphones to higher levels because it has greater output. So why are you bringing up something I already said?

Second, I'm talking about sound quality, not output. You stated something as a fact without even knowing if it was true (that a Mojo driving Audeze headphones would sound better than the Lightning cable). Yet you were calling someone out the other day for stating something without providing evidence (that Samsung rushed the Note 7). Gee, that's not hypocritical AT ALL.

You're going on and on about the Mojo but you're forgetting one simple thing: the Cipher cable for Audeze headphones is matched specially to each model. It has a high end DAC, DSP processor tuned for the specific headphone and amplifier matched to the drivers. It likely can't play as loud as a Mojo (which I already said), but it's sheer stupidity to think a generic DAC and amplifier are going to sound better.

Anyway, that's my simple explanation. If you think I'm wrong (I'm not) we can discuss electrical engineering as it relates to the principles of audio. Just let me know your comfort level and I'll try to KISS for you.
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I'd love to see your list of Sine reviews that are "mixed". The majority of the ones I read give them a very good rating. So please provide your list so I can compare.

Relax mate. You may want to go back and read your replies , you are very quick to insult other posters, pulling the BS card. So here is a hint , treat others with respect and they will do the same to you. It's amazing that when I gave you a little of your own treatment, you got all defensive and aggressive. Just on this thread, read your replies to myself and others. If you cannot take it , don't dish it out. My intention was not to disprepectful , yes I was sarcastic, but your replies resulted in my attitude . If you were offended sorry , was not the intention.

As for the Mojo, listen to one..... generic my **** :p it's a fantastically good deal, for its price. Google some reviews.... it almost matches my Hugo.

Enjoy your music, and I will enjoy mine. Let's agree to disagree.
 
It's 4-5 hours if you are a very heavy user. I use my gps all day long while browsing the internet, doing conferences calls, taking pictures, the screen is on all day long. It's about the same as the 6. But for a "super extreme heavy user" like myself, 4-5 hours on the SE and 6 suck, better for lighter users. (came from a 6S+ to an SE)

Honestly the SE is great from a form factor and one-hand usability standpoint. With the release of the 7's the SE's now in 2nd place if you're looking at performance, battery, and camera. Maybe next year I'll go back once they have edge-to-edge SE along with rest of the sizes. That one will probably have a slightly bigger screen and better battery by then.
It's kind of Apples vs well other Apples comparison. Before battery life, size matters. No matter what, I'm just not into the Plus sizes. I can tolerate the 4.7" phones, but beyond that, I'd rather drag my 7.9" iPad Mini around if I want to show pics, but for me a phone needs to be light, portable, fit unobtrusively on my belt and generally be "phone sized".

I'll also be back 2017, when hopefully there'll be a 4" iPhone 8 version, but I'd reconsider a 4.7" again if not.
Chances are, they'll release an SE upgrade in April/May with some of the 7 features. Oh yea, and no headphone jack, I'm not buying. Invested too much in quality Sennheisers and I hate dongles with a passion.

Just curious though, how much battery time were you really getting on your 6S+ before you switched to the SE? According to this report
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/mobil...30/iphone-se-review-solid-all-round-performer
the SE has 12% better battery life in real world performance. I came from the 6 and can truly say I added a full day with the same usage pattern. 1-2days vs 2-3 now.
Guess you'll let us know once your 7+ arrives, but I'm curious how the 6S+ performed with your "super extreme heavy" usage.
 
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