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iPhone 7 Sample pics are brutal!???

Are there any "Full Resolution" iPhone 7 samples? Apples website used to show them, but not anymore. Small image samples always look good until....you bring it up to full Rez. I guess I'll have to see for myself when I get mine.
 
ToddH said:
Are there any "Full Resolution" iPhone 7 samples? Apples website used to show them, but not anymore. Small image samples always look good until....you bring it up to full Rez. I guess I'll have to see for myself when I get mine.
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I suspect as the first models roll in and the journalists have their articles online with some hopefully real data. Then we can review that.
 
I don't think brutal is a term I'd use to describe them. But we do have to see how they compare against other devices. And to be fair, Android has been DESTROYING the competition. Heck even the HTC 10 is receiving praise from dpreview and dxo. It's becoming harder and harder to find a phone with a poor camera in several price points. So it would be interesting to see how apple performs.

All that said, I have a full frame (sony rx1rii) so I don't ever have to really say which is better. Just point to my Sony
 
I suppose that the iPhone 7 has the same camera (wide angle) as the 7plus. I only see the description on the specifications page where the 7 plus has a "wide angle" and the 7 just a 12mp new camera. I'm sure they are the same, I wished that on the keynote, they went into more detail of the cameras. I just don't want the 7 to have a better camera than the 7 plus. I'm not as concerned about the telephoto camera, to me that will be used much less.
 
It seems obvious to me that the darkness and shadow in the pictures was intentionally done for emphasis. Probably not the best choice to show off the camera. They're trying to be artsy and show a range of possible photos I guess, but I personally would have showcased brighter and more vibrant pictures.

Even so, if these are considered "brutal" my iPhone 6 must have one of those pinhole cameras that kids make in school!
 
rawlus said:
Game changer. Very impressed with DSLR-like performance from a phone.
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i really really really am curious what raw photos positives we will actually have, there's adobe lightroom on the phone, if they make a 50 dollar version that can take those actually raw photos and let me use that, im willing to pay for once.
 
I looked at the pics that were called out
IMO they are artistically designed specifically for the effect they give, and do not indicate poor performance
Regardless, I will reserve judgment until I use the camera myself in real life situations meaningful to me
 
Wow, "brutal" is a bit extreme. For a cell phone sensor, as others have mentioned, the range shown in the photos is pretty impressive. The lack of noise in the night shots is pretty damn good for a cell phone camera...
 
I think the photo's look quite impressive. As others have said, the night/dark images have very little noise in them. It all depends on what you photograph and you're expectations.

Also, does anyone know what each individual lens of the camera is/does? I'd like to know especially what the new 6th element lens that Apple has added is or does.
 
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Sparky2012 said:
I think the photo's look quite impressive. As others have said, the night/dark images have very little noise in them. It all depends on what you photograph and you're expectations.

Also, does anyone know what each individual lens of the camera is/does? I'd like to know especially what the new 6th lens that Apple has added is or does.
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Yeah but were those sample images taken with the 7 or 7plus? If they were done by the 7 only, does this mean the camera in the 7 is better at low light than the 7 plus? I've heard rumors that the 7 has a larger sensor (1/2.6") than the 7 plus. If that is the case, then I made the wrong choice in iPhone purchase.

The extra lens element helps with pulling in more light. Sometimes, more elements in the lens mean better light transmission especially if thos optics have advanced coatings on them.
 
I'm sure both the 7 and the 7 Plus will have the same main camera if this is to be believed from the Apple website:

"The same 12MP wide-angle camera that’s on iPhone 7 works with a 12MP telephoto camera that can get even closer."


ToddH said:
The extra lens element helps with pulling in more light. Sometimes, more elements in the lens mean better light transmission especially if thos optics have advanced coatings on them.
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Thanks!
 
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joeblow7777 said:
It seems obvious to me that the darkness and shadow in the pictures was intentionally done for emphasis. Probably not the best choice to show off the camera. They're trying to be artsy and show a range of possible photos I guess, but I personally would have showcased brighter and more vibrant pictures.

Even so, if these are considered "brutal" my iPhone 6 must have one of those pinhole cameras that kids make in school!
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domineus said:
I don't think brutal is a term I'd use to describe them. But we do have to see how they compare against other devices. And to be fair, Android has been DESTROYING the competition. Heck even the HTC 10 is receiving praise from dpreview and dxo. It's becoming harder and harder to find a phone with a poor camera in several price points. So it would be interesting to see how apple performs.

All that said, I have a full frame (sony rx1rii) so I don't ever have to really say which is better. Just point to my Sony
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Ok brutal may be a tad harsh, but a poor choice of dark pics. Did we need 3 v dark pics with neon lights? What were they trying to emphasise? The iPhone 6 and 6s had better pics on the website at the time, although I'd guess the newer camera has better hardware.
Don't get me wrong, there is impressive detail in all the shots, but there is in the s7 and HTC 10 and even LGs lg4 from 2015,and all have raw support.
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Branskins said:
You won't get the true quality unless you're looking at a wide color display or on the actual device
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You mean I'm not looking at it right?
I'm using 27inch professional monitor.
Some of those pics are too dark, face it.
I'm sure hardware is fine. Needs a better advertisement campaign.
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rawlus said:
Game changer. Very impressed with DSLR-like performance from a phone.
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Game changers were the LG G4 18months ago, then the s7 6months ago. IPhone 7 I'm very unconvinced from what I've seen but hopeful.
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lah said:
Wow, "brutal" is a bit extreme. For a cell phone sensor, as others have mentioned, the range shown in the photos is pretty impressive. The lack of noise in the night shots is pretty damn good for a cell phone camera...
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I will concede lack of noise is impressive. Lack of detail in overly dark areas less so.
 
tgi said:
OP should have photos in question.
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C'mon, they are the camera pics on Apple's website. Surely you've seen them by now if u subscribe to this site.
Apple website, IPhone, camera. You can't miss them.
 
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Ok brutal may be a tad harsh, but a poor choice of dark pics. Did we need 3 v dark pics with neon lights? What were they trying to emphasise? The iPhone 6 and 6s had better pics on the website at the time, although I'd guess the newer camera has better hardware.
Don't get me wrong, there is impressive detail in all the shots, but there is in the s7 and HTC 10 and even LGs lg4 from 2015,and all have raw support.
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You mean I'm not looking at it right?
I'm using 27inch professional monitor.
Some of those pics are too dark, face it.
I'm sure hardware is fine. Needs a better advertisement campaign.
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Game changers were the LG G4 18months ago, then the s7 6months ago. IPhone 7 I'm very unconvinced from what I've seen but hopeful.
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I will concede lack of noise is impressive. Lack of detail in overly dark areas less so.
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Is your professional monitor wide color?
 
Michael Goff said:
Looks to me looks Apple is just going for more real looking pictures and the OP likes oversaturated colors.
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And OP is expecting to see bright shadows when the images are clearly exposed for the neon lights and such. He has no understanding whatsoever of what he's moaning about or looking for.

Apple perhaps should have done some HDR bracketed photos and made the images flat/low contrast to make the OP happy.

The images Apple took and are showing/showcasing the low noise in the shadows, and aren't meant to show "hey look, if we expose for the brightest thing and then pump up the shadows to unnatural levels you can see some detail."
 
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ChinkyBob said:
C'mon, they are the camera pics on Apple's website. Surely you've seen them by now if u subscribe to this site.
Apple website, IPhone, camera. You can't miss them.
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Fair enough, I just reviewed the photos. And Wow, I do agree with all your points about the shadows having no detail, too dark etc. I'm surprised, I thought you would have been exaggerating.
 
I don't like sample pictures because I don't think they are representative of the pictures I can actually achieve on the device. They are all heavily edited and probably taken by professional photographers.
 
Shanghaichica said:
I don't like sample pictures because I don't think they are representative of the pictures I can actually achieve on the device. They are all heavily edited and probably taken by professional photographers.
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Photos are untouched per Apple.
 
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