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There seems to be no change in the resolutions of the new iPhones, 750p small iphone and 1080p 8 plus and the X
 
The X has to have a higher resolution because it’s a bigger screen. Apple won’t go below 326 DPI.

The screen is the same size as the + model for the most part doesn't it so its not outside the realm of possibility that its still only got a 1080p screen.
 
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The screen is the same size as the + model for the most part doesn't it so its not outside the realm of possibility that its still only got a 1080p screen.

Well, it will have a significantly different aspect ratio, so unlikely to see the specific 1920x1080. I think we've also seen details to the screen resolution leaked in firmware. Looks like it'll be a bit larger than the iPhone 7 in the point resolution, but running @3x. So a significant increase.

Edit: Meant to say, I think we had seen that the resolution will be 1242x2800.
 
So not that much bigger than 1080 in reality. The added height over the 7+ will be lost in some ways to the home button replacement bar. It should be a few hundred pixels taller though in real use though. I wonder how much difference OLED makes over LCD for giving the screen a more high quality appearance. The screen on the 7/+ is beautiful but the screens on the S8 etc really "pop" for want of a better term.
 
I was hoping for a QHD screen considering it's their new flagship and not a slightly above 1080p screen but hey all will be revealed tomorrow.
 
This just terrible info and not worth creating a thread. It's been confirmed via the firmware leaks that the X will have a higher resolution.
 
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The iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus will pretty much have the same screens as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, the iPhone X will have the 1125×2436 462 ppi OLED screen "Quad HD". Next year there will be two models this 5.8" X and the 6.3" X not sure what they will call it, maybe they will drop the name and just call it iPhone and iPhone Pro or something.
 
Explain why it doesn't "Count"

I think he is referring to the fact that amoled screens are pentile so the red or blue pixels are shared which means the true resolution is lower than that of an LCD.

However very few people can tell if a display is pentile with QHD anyway.

That is exactly, to which I was referring. However, I don't agree that "very few people can tell...anyway".

I can tell and it isn't because I have super vision; I don't. You don't need to be able to actually resolve individual pixels to be able to see that a higher PPI screen is "better", all else equal.
 
100% correct (I hope!)!

OLED PPI doesn't "count" the same as LCD, so it has to be much higher to represent even a minor upgrade.

According to Displaymate, newer amoleds like in the Note 8 cannot be judged by just ppi anymore. The diamond pixel arrangement and sub-pixel imaging makes texts and objects even more sharper on the display so the ppi war is pointless with the newer AMOLED displays at least on the Note 8 (rated best display available).

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note8_ShootOut_100.htm

New 3K Higher Resolution Quad HD+ 2960x1440 Display with 521 pixels per inch

As a result of its larger display size and larger Aspect Ratio, the Galaxy Note8 has a new 3K Higher Resolution Quad HD+ display with2960x1440 pixels and 521 pixels per inch, with 4.3 Mega Pixels, more than double the number on your HDTV. It can display more than four complete HD 1280x720 images at once. The display has Diamond Pixels (see below) and Sub-Pixel Rendering with 521 pixels per inch (ppi), providing significantly higher image sharpness than can be resolved with normal 20/20 Vision at the typical viewing distances of 10 inches or more for Smartphones, so the display appears perfectly sharp.


The Galaxy Note8 uses Sub-Pixel Rendering, which further improves image sharpness because the individual Red, Green and Blue Sub-Pixels are treated as independent addressable image elements and are not bound together into fixed Pixels, so the closest sub-pixel is used when rendering the image. In some cases Sub-Pixel Rendering can make the screen appear to have up to 3 times the resolution of traditional Pixel Rendering. As a result, for Smartphones it is absolutely pointless to further increase the display resolution and pixels per inch (ppi) up to 4K (3940x2160 pixels) for a silly marketing wild goose chase into the stratosphere, with no visual benefit for humans!
 
Just checked the Note8 today using 1080 X 2220 vs 2960 X 1440 and there is definitely a difference from 6 inches distance away. Much sharper text with the former's resolution.
 
According to Displaymate, newer amoleds like in the Note 8 cannot be judged by just ppi anymore. The diamond pixel arrangement and sub-pixel imaging makes texts and objects even more sharper on the display so the ppi war is pointless with the newer AMOLED displays at least on the Note 8 (rated best display available).

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note8_ShootOut_100.htm

New 3K Higher Resolution Quad HD+ 2960x1440 Display with 521 pixels per inch

As a result of its larger display size and larger Aspect Ratio, the Galaxy Note8 has a new 3K Higher Resolution Quad HD+ display with2960x1440 pixels and 521 pixels per inch, with 4.3 Mega Pixels, more than double the number on your HDTV. It can display more than four complete HD 1280x720 images at once. The display has Diamond Pixels (see below) and Sub-Pixel Rendering with 521 pixels per inch (ppi), providing significantly higher image sharpness than can be resolved with normal 20/20 Vision at the typical viewing distances of 10 inches or more for Smartphones, so the display appears perfectly sharp.


The Galaxy Note8 uses Sub-Pixel Rendering, which further improves image sharpness because the individual Red, Green and Blue Sub-Pixels are treated as independent addressable image elements and are not bound together into fixed Pixels, so the closest sub-pixel is used when rendering the image. In some cases Sub-Pixel Rendering can make the screen appear to have up to 3 times the resolution of traditional Pixel Rendering. As a result, for Smartphones it is absolutely pointless to further increase the display resolution and pixels per inch (ppi) up to 4K (3940x2160 pixels) for a silly marketing wild goose chase into the stratosphere, with no visual benefit for humans!
All I can say is that you got me there, sort of. I have nothing bad to say about the Note 8's display. I would be THRILLED if the iPhone X's display were identical to the Note 8's.

Just checked the Note8 today using 1080 X 2220 vs 2960 X 1440 and there is definitely a difference from 6 inches distance away. Much sharper text with the former's resolution.
Not sure what you mean.
 
Just checked the Note8 today using 1080 X 2220 vs 2960 X 1440 and there is definitely a difference from 6 inches distance away. Much sharper text with the former's resolution.

well obviously it will loose sharpness, since 1080 X 2220 is not the native resolution of the display.
 
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well obviously it will loose sharpness, since 1080 X 2220 is not the native resolution of the display.

Obviously yes, but I was wanting to see if at my personal viewing distance of 6 inches if I'd be able to notice any visual degradation with the diamond pixel layout the Note8 AMOLED has. At 10 inches away you can't tell the difference between the two resolutions. The iPhone X at 462 PPI should be sufficient.
 
That is exactly, to which I was referring. However, I don't agree that "very few people can tell...anyway".

I can tell and it isn't because I have super vision; I don't. You don't need to be able to actually resolve individual pixels to be able to see that a higher PPI screen is "better", all else equal.
Are you really seeing past 400ppi or is it the oled screen making it seem better to you. I don't think it has anything to do with past what human sight can actually perceive. It has more to do with the display type than the ppi past that point.
 
Are you really seeing past 400ppi or is it the oled screen making it seem better to you. I don't think it has anything to do with past what human sight can actually perceive. It has more to do with the display type than the ppi past that point.
This is a copy and paste/rewording from something I posted in the past about this:

Its kind of like the perceivable audio spectrum.

I've always believed that CD audio was lacking something ("fullness" or "richness") when compared to full spectrum analog sound (e.g., vinyl). I, personally, have clearly heard the difference.

I believe the same concept applies here. Even though one can't see individual pixels above 300 to 400+ PPI, I have noticed a visual richness/fullness nonetheless.

So no, I am not "seeing [pixels] past 400ppi or..." anything like that, but I can tell.
 
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I think what I'm really wondering about is if the iPhone x screen is 1080p with pentile, I remember back a bit when one of the notes was released with 1080p/pentile, it was said that it wasn't as sharp or crisp as a normal 1080p lcd/rgb, until they upped the res to 1440p/pentile, I think a 1080p with full rgb(super amoled plus) would be awesome, but it looks like 1080p/pentile, which when you think about it is from 3 years ago.
[doublepost=1505175708][/doublepost]If the screen is showing 1125 won't that rounded to 1080p like last year and not 1440p, I thought a screen sharpness is always measured in the width and not the length, like when they released the iPhone 5 after the iPhone 4s, the screen on paper had more pixels but really it wasn't any sharper, they only increased the length for to have a 16-9 aspect ratio
 
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