iPhone 8 Concerns?

[44267547]

LOL, yes, that will surely stay.

You also probably know that I don't sell my devices. Whatever else I think of Apple there is a sale for them later this year when I replace my current iPad. I want the larger size iPad Pro.

My daughter may get the current iPad and my son will be given the choice of my iPhone or his mother's iPhone when we upgrade as a reward for one year of taking care of his current iPhone without incident.

That will kick back another iPhone 5 as a secondary device again. My current 5 actually has it's own line on T-Mobile so it's being used to.

So…even if I do move on the old devices will remain and be used.

I also do not sell my old devices. I use them until they're no longer useful or I pass them down to somebody I personally know.

Also, I do have an appreciation for your Batman Cave set up for all your Macs. One of a kind.

 

[bufffilm]

Let me redefine no-frills as how it applies to my usage. So I want a phone with high end technology that simply works for about two years or so after I get it. My best bet would be an iPhone, albeit I sacrifice the Galaxy features I covet (smart actions, split-screen multi-tasking, dual edge screens, and UI aesthetics).

With the iPhone OLED model, my expectations are a Galaxy S8 with iOS minus the dual edge screens. I get back iMessage and FaceTime on a daily driver. I expect an Iris scanner, facial detection, an always on FP sensor, exclusive iOS 11 features, an OLED display around 2800 x 1342 or 2436 x 1135, wireless charging, quick charging, better dual camera setup, a new body design, A11 processor.

With that being said, the S8 is a great phone, but I am fearful of its artificially fast denigration because Samsung phones lag after a lot of time, the phone will not receive consistent support, and the battery life with the Snapdragon processor is abysmal to mediocre at best. I do love having great hardware and the phone is really reliable excluding the occasional hiccups w/ lag and bugs with Google Assistant (probably Samsung's doing).

However, I just feel that the iPhone 8 will be a great phone to use for 2-3 years. I also plan on disconnecting myself from frequent phone news because a lot of phones are barely different than past models while the price tag keeps going up for flagships.

Wait to see what Apple unveils and decide.

As for 'disconnecting yourself from frequent phone news'...I don't see that as a good or bad thing nor that you need to. /* shrug /

 

[Applejuiced]

What was so special about BiteSMS and what is still missing in iMessage that was in the former?

I didn't have a smartphone prior to the 6s.

I'll have to link you to the features, improvements and additions that bitesms provided over 3 years ago to the iPhone that Apple still doesn't include with their messages app.
I miss it dearly

 

[nviz22]

Wait to see what Apple unveils and decide.

As for 'disconnecting yourself from frequent phone news'...I don't see that as a good or bad thing nor that you need to. /* shrug /

More I read into stuff, the more I waste time on minutia. The average buyer doesn't invest time in researching theoretical advantages of 600 MHz or 4x4 MIMO. It could be meaningless because my areas has shoddy coverage anyways.

 

[bufffilm]

The average buyer doesn't invest time in researching theoretical advantages of 600 MHz or 4x4 MIMO.

They don't.

Sounds like you just need to ease back a little. It's not hard.
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I'll have to link you to the features, improvements and additions that bitesms provided over 3 years ago to the iPhone that Apple still doesn't include with their messages app.
I miss it dearly

Please do.

 

[mib1800]

With that being said, the S8 is a great phone, but I am fearful of its artificially fast denigration because Samsung phones lag after a lot of time, the phone will not receive consistent support, and the battery life with the Snapdragon processor is abysmal to mediocre at best. I do love having great hardware and the phone is really reliable excluding the occasional hiccups w/ lag and bugs with Google Assistant (probably Samsung's doing).

YMMV but my S8+ current uptime is about 3 weeks, and I didnt feel more lags compared to when it was new or first booted up. And I am an user that runs lots of background/automated tasks on my phone. I am consistently getting 5.5-6.5 hrs of SOT over 20 hrs which I think is pretty good battery life.

 

[I7guy]

iPhones last. My 4 year old 5s is running iOS 11. Iirc, it's running iOS 11 better than iOS 7.

 

[Applejuiced]

What was so special about BiteSMS and what is still missing in iMessage that was in the former?

I didn't have a smartphone prior to the 6s.

I ended up digging up an old thread about Bitesms features.
Some of those options listed below might have been added by Apple lately but BiteSms was still way ahead of its time back in 2012.
And many of those useful features are still not available to the stock messages app.

Quick Reply

Whatever you're doing, browsing the web, playing a game or listening to music, with Quick Reply you can quickly reply to incoming text messages without quitting the app you are using.

quick Compose

Whatever you're doing, browsing the web, playing a game or listening to music, with Quick Compose you can easily compose a new text message without quitting the app you are using.


Notification Privacy

Using Notification Privacy you can hide the senders identity or text of an incoming message, so people can't see them at a glance.


Auto-Forward

Easily Auto-Forward received SMS messages to another mobile phone number, or Auto-Forward received iMessages to another Apple device.

Passcode Lock

Protect your privacy from prying eyes using a dedicated passcode in order to get inside the messages app.

Delivery Reports

Ever wanted to check if an SMS you have sent was delivered or not?


Schedules

You can schedule SMS or imessages to be sent at a later date and time, either as a one time, or on repeat intervals, for example a birthday greeting.

Quick Pick Smileys, Templates & Contacts

So easy to insert Smileys, short snippets of text and even contact details from your address book.

Signatures

Personalize your messages, add a signature!

Delay Sending

Ever started to send a message and wished you could cancel it? You can set a delay for 3 or 5 seconds for example and have the ability to hit stop before its send out.

Retry on Failed

When you press "Send" you can now rely on the message actually getting sent, regardless of network state. If the message fails to send because of network issues the program will automatically try to resend it.

Contact Pics

Pictures next to quick reply persons name.Nice!


Quick Forward a Message

Makes it quicker to forward an existing message.

Show all Timestamps. Back in the day Apple only timestamped some messages at random times.

Get more detailed timestamp information about your messages.


Copy to Clipboard

Ever wanted to copy an entire conversation and then for example email a copy of it.

Notification Opt Out/Mute

Allows you to 'opt out' of receiving notification alerts for one or any contacts (so when a message is received no notification vibrate, sound, alert or badge is shown). So you could basically mute text/imessages received by a certain number.
Ideal for opting out of spam or group messages or even keeping a conversation on the 'quiet'. Simply long hold on a conversation (in the conversation list) to toggle notification alerts on or off for that contact. When you have opted out of receiving notifications for a contact it shows as a little bell icon with an X across the bell meaning its in quiet mode.
The messages are still coming in and they are inside the messages app but you dont get the constant ding and pop up notification on the screen.
Perfect for side chicks that you dont want your phone to keep ringing when they text you and you can view their messages and respond to your b-calls at a later time when your main chick is not around lol

 

[nviz22]

YMMV but my S8+ current uptime is about 3 weeks, and I didnt feel more lags compared to when it was new or first booted up. And I am an user that runs lots of background/automated tasks on my phone. I am consistently getting 5.5-6.5 hrs of SOT over 20 hrs which I think is pretty good battery life.

Probably Exynos, no? Or you manage your screen resolution to maximize efficiency? I get about 3-4 hrs SOT on a full charge on WQHD+ Snapdragon model, never use bluetooth, have meh signal at work, at home, and at my masters' program campus. Keep GPS off mainly. I use Wi-Fi a lot at home, use AOD from 10 am to 9pm.

I just don't want my phone to sit there with an AMOLED display, AOD on, and have Wi-Fi enabled just to lose 10% battery in like 60-90 minutes.

 

[bufffilm]

I ended up digging up an old thread about Bitesms features.
Some of those options listed below might have been added by Apple lately but BiteSms was still way ahead of its time back in 2012.
And many of those useful features are still not available to the stock messages app.

Quick Reply

Whatever you're doing, browsing the web, playing a game or listening to music, with Quick Reply you can quickly reply to incoming text messages without quitting the app you are using.

quick Compose

Whatever you're doing, browsing the web, playing a game or listening to music, with Quick Compose you can easily compose a new text message without quitting the app you are using.


Notification Privacy

Using Notification Privacy you can hide the senders identity or text of an incoming message, so people can't see them at a glance.


Auto-Forward

Easily Auto-Forward received SMS messages to another mobile phone number, or Auto-Forward received iMessages to another Apple device.

Passcode Lock

Protect your privacy from prying eyes using a dedicated passcode in order to get inside the messages app.

Delivery Reports

Ever wanted to check if an SMS you have sent was delivered or not?


Schedules

You can schedule SMS or imessages to be sent at a later date and time, either as a one time, or on repeat intervals, for example a birthday greeting.

Quick Pick Smileys, Templates & Contacts

So easy to insert Smileys, short snippets of text and even contact details from your address book.

Signatures

Personalize your messages, add a signature!

Delay Sending

Ever started to send a message and wished you could cancel it? You can set a delay for 3 or 5 seconds for example and have the ability to hit stop before its send out.

Retry on Failed

When you press "Send" you can now rely on the message actually getting sent, regardless of network state. If the message fails to send because of network issues the program will automatically try to resend it.

Contact Pics

Pictures next to quick reply persons name.Nice!


Quick Forward a Message

Makes it quicker to forward an existing message.

Show all Timestamps. Back in the day Apple only timestamped some messages at random times.

Get more detailed timestamp information about your messages.


Copy to Clipboard

Ever wanted to copy an entire conversation and then for example email a copy of it.

Notification Opt Out/Mute

Allows you to 'opt out' of receiving notification alerts for one or any contacts (so when a message is received no notification vibrate, sound, alert or badge is shown). So you could basically mute text/imessages received by a certain number.
Ideal for opting out of spam or group messages or even keeping a conversation on the 'quiet'. Simply long hold on a conversation (in the conversation list) to toggle notification alerts on or off for that contact. When you have opted out of receiving notifications for a contact it shows as a little bell icon with an X across the bell meaning its in quiet mode.
The messages are still coming in and they are inside the messages app but you dont get the constant ding and pop up notification on the screen.
Perfect for side chicks that you dont want your phone to keep ringing when they text you and you can view their messages and respond to your b-calls at a later time when your main chick is not around lol

Thanks for posting this.

I've been busy all day with other things...will read thru and digest later.

 

[mib1800]

Probably Exynos, no? Or you manage your screen resolution to maximize efficiency? I get about 3-4 hrs SOT on a full charge on WQHD+ Snapdragon model, never use bluetooth, have meh signal at work, at home, and at my masters' program campus. Keep GPS off mainly. I use Wi-Fi a lot at home, use AOD from 10 am to 9pm.

exynos model. But no, my screen is set to WQHD with everything on (bt, gps, aod, wifi). Checking gsam app, my signal level is low 50% of the time.

I just don't want my phone to sit there with an AMOLED display, AOD on, and have Wi-Fi enabled just to lose 10% battery in like 60-90 minutes.

Then your phone is a dud or you have rouge apps in your phone. I have been using android for a long time and I never encountered one that loses 10% per hour on standby under normal circumstances.

4 hrs of SOT is not unreasonable if you have low signal LTE or you play intensive games or you use your phone in a very bright environment in auto brightness mode.

 

[iMi]

It's way to early to have any concerns about the iPhone 8.

 

[nviz22]

exynos model. But no, my screen is set to WQHD with everything on (bt, gps, aod, wifi). Checking gsam app, my signal level is low 50% of the time.



Then your phone is a dud or you have rouge apps in your phone. I have been using android for a long time and I never encountered one that loses 10% per hour on standby under normal circumstances.

4 hrs of SOT is not unreasonable if you have low signal LTE or you play intensive games or you use your phone in a very bright environment in auto brightness mode.

Never play games, have auto-brightness in moderately lit areas most of the time. Next time I let my phone be for like 2 hrs with AOD enabled and wi-fi on, I should actually measure it on three different occasions for a better sample size.

 

[jpn]

iphone 8 - to live up to a 3 model introduction at the same time (7s/7s plus/8) needs to challenge norms so much that it pushes people's comfort levels and be innovative enough to not be for "everybody". almost a concept phone that points directionally to the future. expensive. giving up old norms. pushing new ones that are not for everybody.
such as having contact charging and no lightning port at all. not for everybody. and those people who aren't ready for the tradeoffs that are pushing the envelope should buy the 7s.
if the "leaked" concepts are accurate, its not enough for me.
i will probably upgrade simply to the 7s from my 6s, and wait until apple is ready to rediscover the future.