iPhone 8 Teardowns Reveal Advanced Modems Likely Selected for Power Improvements

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    Apple released the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus on Friday, September 22, and device teardowns were underway within hours, courtesy of iFixit and TechInsights. The firms received different models for teardown, with iFixit's model featuring a Qualcomm baseband while TechInsights' featured an Intel modem, continuing Apple's trend of opting for Intel modems in phones which do not require CDMA network support.

    The baseband parts in each iPhone were revealed to be new chips from their respective vendors, with the CDMA phone featuring Qualcomm's new X16 gigabit-class modem and the Intel-based model featuring the similarly new XMM 7480 modem. Each model also included an update to the transceiver module to go along with the modem, but the functional changes in the RF signal chain mostly stopped there.

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    Qualcomm X16 and X12 feature comparison

    In addition to higher peak speeds compared to their predecessors, both of these modems offer other potential benefits. Comparing the network compatibility pages of the iPhone 7 against the iPhone 8 shows that the bands supported are largely unchanged, and this is reflected in the small changes to the power amplifier modules (PAMs) found within the RF chain.

    Besides gigabit-level peak theoretical speeds, the X16 modem brings several other advances, including up to 4x carrier aggregation for a total bandwidth of up to 80 MHz compared to the 60 MHz found in the MDM9645M (X12) powering the iPhone 7. Qualcomm's X16 modem also supports T-Mobile US's new 600 MHz LTE spectrum, Band 71. Apple does not list support for Band 71 on the model sold for use on T-Mobile, which means that either Intel's modem does not support it for the appropriate T-Mobile model or Apple elected not to include support for it in the phone's antenna/PAM structure.

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    Intel's XMM 7480 feature highlights

    The Intel XMM 7480, by contrast, only has a maximum theoretical peak of 600 Mbps, and while it also supports up to 4x carrier aggregation, two of these channels are limited to 10 MHz, capping overall bandwidth at 60 MHz. Intel has boosted its band support to a total of more than 33, claiming an industry leading number, but there are likely other deficiencies compared to the Qualcomm modem which have been accepted due to Apple's desire to have supplier diversity for this component.

    Regardless, it is clear that both of these modems are improvements over their predecessors, yet Apple dedicated no time to talking about advanced cellular capabilities for any of its phones in the media event earlier this month. Instead, the main reason for upgrading to these new modems likely lies in power consumption.

    The teardowns have revealed that Apple has reduced the size of the batteries in the iPhone 8 lineup while maintaining battery life claims across the board. The squeeze on the iPhone X will be even worse, given Apple's claims of iPhone 8 Plus-like battery life in a non-Plus type form factor. While there are several other advancements likely behind the scenes there, it seems clear Apple wanted to get more efficient in its cellular radio chains.

    This will also be an area to watch in the iPhone X, as the cellular RF chain is one of the biggest consumers of space in the phone. According to its spec page, the iPhone X will support the same bands across two models as its 8-branded brethren, so space may have to come from elsewhere.

    The advancements in baseband modem power efficiency likely come from two different sources for Qualcomm and Intel. The X16 is built on a 14nm FinFET process according to Qualcomm, which likely has several advantages over the 28nm RF process utilized in its previous modems.

    Intel, on the other hand, claims up to 15 percent lower power usage compared to its previous-generation modem, which could be thanks in part to the newly included envelope tracker for voltage control, which reduces power usage and heat. While it is not clear which process Intel's modem is built on, it seems likely it is still a 28nm process from TSMC, as Intel still works on the technology lineage from its Infineon acquisition. Nevertheless, future iPhones will be well-positioned to include higher bandwidth and more diverse network capabilities in the future, even if the modems they use stay the same.

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  2. Suckfest 9001 macrumors 65816

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    Now the real question is: how do we determine which modem is in our phone?
     
  3. witherwings macrumors member

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    Here we go again. Modem-gate.

    "My modem is Intel! My 4G only runs at 99.9mbps and not 100mb like Qualcomm!!! Refund NOW!!" posts...
     
  4. brian3uk, Sep 26, 2017
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    EDIT: Sprint, Verizon, and SIM free are Qualcomm, ATT and TMO are Intel. Globally, most will be Intel.

    Original (incorrect) post:
    If you have ATT or TMO, its the Intel. Any other phone is the Qualcomm.
     
  5. pat500000 macrumors G3

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    I think sim free is qualcomm
     
  6. RajaHood macrumors member

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    Did I see it wrong, or did Apple say it would get 2 hours more than the 8, NOT the 8 Plus?
     
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    God forbid Apple keep the same size battery AND enjoy new modems efficiency.
     
  8. brian3uk macrumors 6502

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    Correct, as it
    Yeah, that's what I meant, I edited my post for clarity.
     
  9. eim23x macrumors regular

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    I think sim free is Intel since the sim free does not have CDMA option if i am not mistaken
     
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    It’s wrong for Apple not to have talked about this in the keynote like every other year, or mention it in their website. People deserve to know the specifics.
     
  11. lunarworks macrumors 65816

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    Apple never gives the specifics in their keynotes. 99% of people don't care, and their eyes glaze over with boredom.
     
  12. IG88, Sep 26, 2017
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    The US Sim free phone works on every carrier that an iPhone will work on in North America.

    Edit: in the US. No idea what Europe does.
     
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    But at least say it’s a 600Mbps modem, every year they have made a mention about that.
     
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    SIM Free always includes the Intel modem, at least here in Europe.
     
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    In most countries outside the US the sim free is actually the Intel version as well, even tho it only has GSM capabilities so there's no reason to believe there's much inferiority. We only have the sim free capable of CDMA networks as well bc we still need it for Verizon / Sprint, otherwise we may very well only be able to purchase the Intel modem as well. Only certain countries still need the CDMA model. It's not a big deal really, that will probably be the standard soon.
     
  16. WannaGoMac macrumors 68020

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    If you want better hardware go Samsung, if you want a better experience go iPhone.
     
  17. Zaft macrumors 68040

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    What in the world does that have to do with anything.
     
  18. IG88 macrumors 6502

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    Not in the US. The US has both CDMA and GSM carriers, so the SIM free phone needs the radio that supports CDMA and GSM, which is the Qualcomm modem.

    I have the SIM free 6, 6S+, and 8+. The MEIDs are all in Verizon’s whitelist.
     
  19. WannaGoMac macrumors 68020

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    Apple takes improvements in design/efficiency etc. to shrink size of devices or other sort of things. Samsung just plops in the largest and best chips/batteries/etc. it can into into its square boxes for spec hunters.

    Just my opinion. Others are welcome to their own of course.
     
  20. predation macrumors 65816

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    So am I switching to an 8 to get a better intel modem?
     
  21. DaveOP macrumors 65816

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    The carriers are not coming close to maxing either of these modems out, so I suspect it just does not matter to 99.99% of iPhone buyers.
     
  22. ssnacks macrumors newbie

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    For those of you suspicious of this claim, put a phone your apple.com/uk (or some other locale) bag, find the part number, look it up on everyiphone.com, and get the details. The iPhone 8 information isn't loaded, but I confirmed his statement for an iPhone 7 Plus purchased in the UK. The part number, MNQM2B/A, is a model A1784. The details on this model here, http://www.everymac.com/systems/app...e-7-plus-att-t-mobile-global-a1784-specs.html, confirm that it does not have CDMA functionality and is likely the Intel modem.
     
  23. Zaft macrumors 68040

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    Well IMO decreasing battery size because a chip became more efficient is the wrong way to do it.

    Why be just as good as before? Why not better?
     
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    Apple could make things easier on its customers and just go with one model, but instead they choose not to. I don’t like Qualcomm at all, but their modems seem to be better than the Intel modems.
     
  25. JPack macrumors 68040

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    It's not about maxing out the modem. Most users are operating under weak to moderate signal conditions in buildings or underground.

    The situation is similar to 802.11ac. The goal is get 100Mbps throughput under real world conditions, not the 1.3Gbps marketing spec.
     

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