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Btw, is airs canera exactly same as regular iphone 17 (main)?
Yes for using 1-2x usage.

There very minimal differences from what I've seen, some very specific shots which includes depth just slightly favours the pro. But most of the shots I've seen in person between the two or pictures on the internet have shown pretty much identical shots.
Between the Air and the iPhone 17, I believe they are identical. But the 17 Pro and Pro Max main lens has a bigger sensor.

The sensor of the camera on the Air and base 17 is 1/1.56 (48mm^2) vs the 17 Pro and Pro Max is 1/1.28 (71.5mm^2). So the Air and 17 will be slightly worse in low-light scenarios.

Practically, in normal light, you won't be able to tell much difference between the main lenses of the Air/17 vs 17 Pro/PM. And as @Konvictz mentioned, there's also slightly better depth-of-field with the bigger sensor as well.
 
What makes you say that?

Just from what I’ve seen on the net/social media and there’s a few threads on here questioning the durability of the aluminium, which is obviously a less durable and softer metal than titanium and won’t fair as well during drops.

I take some of it with a pinch of salt though because there’s people who look they’ve intentionally dropped and beat their 17 Pro’s up then sayings it’s very weak and posting on social media about it.

The only damage I’ve seen posted in these forums is minor dents, chips & scuffs. I’ve not seen anyone with the cosmic orange colour that’s turning pink posting in these forums yet.
 
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Just from what I’ve seen on the net/social media and there’s a few threads on here questioning the durability of the aluminium, which is obviously a less durable and softer metal than titanium and won’t fair as well during drops.

I take some of it with a pinch of salt though because there’s people who look they’ve intentionally dropped and beat their 17 Pro’s up then sayings it’s very weak and posting on social media about it.

The only damage I’ve seen posted in these forums is minor dents, chips & scuffs. I’ve not seen anyone with the cosmic orange colour that’s turning pink posting in these forums yet.
Sorry I misread your post. I thought you said the Air titanium was more prone to damage than the previous Pro titanium, which confused me haha.

Right, aluminum is supposed to be softer, but I think its advantages outweigh the bad for most people.
 
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Sorry I misread your post. I thought you said the Air titanium was more prone to damage than the previous Pro titanium, which confused me haha.

Right, aluminum is supposed to be softer, but I think its advantages outweigh the bad for most people.
Ok 😁

Oh yeah aluminium has its advantages and if you drop any phone you run the risk of damage. If small dents and scuffs bother you then use a case. I think some horror stories of the 17 Pro’s durability are being overblown.
 
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Ok 😁

Oh yeah aluminium has its advantages and if you drop any phone you run the risk of damage. If small dents and scuffs bother you then use a case. I think some horror stories of the 17 Pro’s durability are being overblown.
I wouldn't dream of using my iPhone without a case, I drop my phone far too often and these phones feel so slippery in use lol. Its actually quite rare to see people using any phones without cases these days in my experience.
 
Space black won me over this year. As it's the only truly BLACK phone in this year's lineup, and the way the polished titanium just disappears while perfectly blending the screen into the ceramic backing is just... *chefs kiss*

It also feels/looks like the spiritual successor to the jet black iPhone 7 (to me), which adds a healthy dose of nostalgia.
How’s scratchgate?
 
I really don’t know which of the white colors to pick, however I’m leaning towards the Cloud White because I feel it will be the most neutral. Usually I prefer a matte aluminum look over the shiny polished metals, but I’m very tempted by the iPhone Air in spite of the polished sides.

I bought a white one and put grey bumpers on it. Looks great. All the benefits of the size w/o the slippery edges. Has something to hold onto while in use. Biggest issue for me is the back lens - scrapes on my white desk when picked up/put down. I forget to put it face down most of the time.
 
That’s your opinion. To me, the Air is ugly and the Pros aren’t. YMMV.
Really, you’re winding him up right? The 17 Pro is better in every way specs wise, but design/aesthetics/weight is where the Air wins for most people. Not saying the 17 Pro is ugly though it looks good, but the aluminium is holding me back from upgrading my 15 Pro and its beautiful Titanium frame.
 
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My concerns were it was gonna be only a little bit better than the brick pro versions but I was wrong and my concerns were unfounded. It’s a lot better… thank you Apple!
 
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