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iPhone AV cable

thebigone,

I have personally tested the showTIME cable on my iPhone 3G which is running 2.1 firmware. Please contact our tech support staff @ (800) 363-4490 x 3. You may have received a dud or your settings may be wrong on the device. Try playing the video first then plugging in the cable. It should take you back to the video selection screen, once you reselect the video it should play through the display that is connected to the cable.

If for some reason the cable is a dud Scosche would be happy to warranty it.
 
Thanks for the reply; when I get home tonight I will try to plug the cable in while playing video, etc.

I have sent an email to tech support, and will see what they have to say. I definitely hope that it is just something in the settings, although given the definite lack of configuration options in the recent firmware revisions, I am not too hopeful. 8-(

FYI, this is an iPod touch (1G); I don't think that the firmware between that and iPhone are too different, but there may be some bug in the iPod one which breaks it, which is not present in the iPhone. As I mentioned earlier, the cable works beautifully in 2.0.2 and 1.1.4, so I am pretty confident that it's not a hardware issue on either the iPod or the cable itself.

(Oh, and for the record, I don't feel that this is Scosche's fault at all. The cable itself is very nice, with excellent construction quality, etc. It is Apple that I am annoyed with, for constantly trying to break third party accessories.)

Cheers
 
edrex said:
dgalvan123, are you using the 2.1 firmware? I got the same cable from DealXtreme and it has not worked for me. I've also read others that the cable worked for them before 2.1 but not after.
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Uh oh. No, I've only tested my cable before the 2.1 firmware upgrade. I haven't tested it since then. But I have also now seen the comments on the dealextreme website from people saying the cable no longer works after the 2.1 upgrade.

Bummer.
 
I have posted a bug to Apple indicating that the firmware 2.1 breaks the showTIME cable. The bug text is below. If anyone else experiences similar problems (with any third party AV cable which apparently has the authentication chip, and worked with a previous firmware), I would recommend submitting more bug reports - perhaps this is just a mistake on their part, and they are not aware of it.

You can submit a bug report to Apple via https://bugreport.apple.com (you require a free developer account with Apple).

Cheers

<bug report>
Summary:
As of firmware 2.1, the Scosche showTIME AV cable (http://www.scosche.com/products/productID/1622) no longer works. Previous to this (I personally verified on 2.0.2 and 1.1.4), video would output to the TV just fine.

Steps to Reproduce:
1) On firmware 2.0.2, plugin an Schoshe showTIME AV cable, and play a video. The output would appear on a connected TV. The video does not appear on the iPod - just shows the first frame, paused.
2) Upgrade firmware to 2.1, and try to play the video again. This time the video plays on the iPod, and does not send a signal to the TV.

Expected Results:
When using an official third party product (this cable comes with the 'Made for iPod' and 'Works with iPhone' stickers, so they must be part of the Apple third party dev program), the video output to TV should work, regardless of firmware version.

Actual Results:
The TV signal is not turned on when connected to a Scosche showTIME A/V cable in Firmware 2.1

Regression:
This works in all firmwares which I have tested previous to 2.1 (I personally tested 2.0.2 and 1.1.4).

Notes:
After upgrading to 2.1 and seeing that the cable does not work, I reverted to 2.0.2 and 1.1.4 again, to make sure that the problem was not hardware related (on either the cable or the iPod). The cable still worked under both of the older firmwares, and broke again when I did a new vanilla install of 2.1. As of today, I have not found any workaround which results in successful display of the TV signal via the cable.
</bug report>
 
This morning we updated aGen 1 iPod touch with 2.1 firmware to tried and duplicate the issue. We tested both the Scosche showTIME cable and the Apple cable (both of the cables worked flawlessly). The only thing I can think of is that Apple may have already made a change to the 2.1 firmware in iTunes, in which case I would recommend re-syncing your touch and trying again.

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Well, that is very interesting - I just tried again, and this time, things seem to work fine. Not sure what had changed between this time and last time; I had re-jailbroken (breaked? broked? ;-) the iPod, rebooted a few times, and done some syncs. Any of those actions (or others, which I may have forgotten) may have caused it. However, it looks like things are going to be working just fine.

A comment on those comments indicating that playback stops after a few minutes: try changing the "Lock iPod after X minutes" setting to "Never" - that seems to have done it for me.

Thank you *very* much for your persistence in helping me solve this issue!

Cheers
 
These are the reasons I will either a) not buy a cable or b) buy the Apple cable because I don't want to take the chance of throwing the money away.
 
Well, for what it is worth, I have seen reports of the official Apple cable failing after the 2.1 firmware upgrade. Personally, I feel morally better about buying a third party cable, rather than support Apple in playing these games, even if it means that I spend more time fixing issues like this. Of course, that is just my opinion, and many will disagree, but take that as you will. :cool:

Regardless, I wish you the best in whatever approach you choose.

Cheers
 
thebigone said:
Well, for what it is worth, I have seen reports of the official Apple cable failing after the 2.1 firmware upgrade. Personally, I feel morally better about buying a third party cable, rather than support Apple in playing these games, even if it means that I spend more time fixing issues like this. Of course, that is just my opinion, and many will disagree, but take that as you will. :cool:

Regardless, I wish you the best in whatever approach you choose.

Cheers
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where are these reports, i have never seen any. The apple cable works flawlessly as long as its a real apple cable.
 
jchampl said:
where are these reports, i have never seen any. The apple cable works flawlessly as long as its a real apple cable.
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See for instance https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/566862/, in particuar https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/6276280/. I realize there may be other problems (bad cable, bad iPod, perhaps the guy is just outright lying to cause trouble </sarcasm> - who knows?), but that's one site where I saw it.

Anyway, I am sure that 99.99% of people don't have problems with the Apple cable. As mentioned previously, I am opposed to supporting Apple's anti-competitive practices, and thus trying other options; however, others may not care about that, and just want a reliable cable, regardless of the hyper-inflated price. In that case, get the Apple cable, I'm sure it will work fine for you.

Cheers
 
Question

dgalvan123 said:
P.S.: I ordered and received this cable:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.14395

It works perfectly. No "not made to work with iphone" message. No cutting out after 30 seconds. Just works. For $9.22 shipped.

Only drawback is you can't charge the iphone at the same time you are outputting to a TV. But since I mainly use this to show slideshows at relative's houses, it's not an issue for me. (power is readily available.)
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Question: Are you using jailbroken firmware 2.0.2?

Does anyone know if these cables will work on jailbroken iphone 3G running on firmware 2.0.2. I been trying to find working cables for a month and a half now. I already brought a pair off ebay that didn't work. Thanks in advance!
 
Sometimes the AV cable will give you the " not supported message"

this could be due to dust, lint etc.

easiest solution is to unplug it and try again, it seems to remove the message whenever I have it.
 
Ok i got the Scosche cable in the mail today and it's doing the exact same thing that the cheap cable is doing and cutting off after a couple of minutes of playtime. I'm gonna return this cable and I'm not sure if I will be buying apple's official cable. I find their greed to be reprehensible and can't believe they would cut off all third party cables in a desperate attempt to get people to buy their own overpriced cable!!!!!!
 
before you return the cable

a) unplug it from you iPhone, do a hard reset of your iPhone ( power + home button for 10 seconds)

b) make sure there is no dust in your 20 pin connector or the cable

c) plug the cable back into your iPhone

see if this helps


the Scosche cable works equally as well as the iPhone AV cable
 
@fireboyz

Try to set your "lock time" in general Preferences to 'Never'. Since the Scosche cable does not include power, the iPod shuts off after the lock time period. (At least, I am assuming that if you add power, it won't do that... I will be testing this once I get that $10 third party cable in the mail). This works for me, and I have watched entire movies using it.

Cheers
 
Nope still didn't work so I sent it back. I was at radio shack yesterday purchasing some things and I saw the official composite cable and I begrudgingly bought it and it worked. Apple did this purposely because my other 2 third party cables didn't work no matter what I tried. Now I have an extra usb power adapter that I don't need because I ironically bought a third party one from amazon.com for WAY cheaper than what apple would sell one for. Apple *****.....:mad:
 
dgalvan123 said:
Uh oh. No, I've only tested my cable before the 2.1 firmware upgrade. I haven't tested it since then. But I have also now seen the comments on the dealextreme website from people saying the cable no longer works after the 2.1 upgrade.

Bummer.
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I just got back from vacation this week and received my "dealextreme" A/V cable in the mail. I can in-fact say it DOES NOT work with the 2.1 update.


Oh well, $10 mistake... :rolleyes:
 
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