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iPhone Coming Earlier Than June?

I almost voted negative, because my checkbook isn't ready yet. Figuring that too selfish, I think sooner is better than later for everybody else. Guess I'll make the paper fold-up for now...

I keep thinking about the cost, but I remember paying 600 bucks not too long ago for a 60GB vidPod - now they're 350, for 20 more GB, go figure.

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well if this rumor is true and my contract aint up till august ill happily wait till then in hopes of a revision by september:p
 
SRSound said:
I AM SO SICK OF PEOPLE RATING EVERYTHING NEGATIVE! How can an earlier ship date be bad? How can hidden features be bad? How can new products that weren't even announced or anticipated be bad? What's wrong with you people? This is just as stupid as people anticipating "rev B" of the iPhone - before anyone even knows what the original will do!
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There are many different reasons for any particular post or article to be rated negative, most of which have nothing to do with the actual item being talked about.

- People are sick of reading endless rumors about a product and just want the damn thing released.

- The source of such rumors can be suspect because of previous wrong information.

- Grammar Nazis can come out of the woodwork.

In this case, I believe most of the "negatives" are not commenting on the iPhone itself, but rather how suspicously wrong this rumor sounds.
 
Isn't ThickSecrect the rumor site with the sources that are (almost) always wrong? For example, we didn't see new displays and 8-core Mac yesterday.
 
Awesome, the Apple phone is coming earlier. I was talking to this guy from 1878 the other day who said telephones were the latest thing.
 
iSee said:
Isn't ThickSecrect the rumor site with the sources that are (almost) always wrong? For example, we didn't see new displays and 8-core Mac yesterday.
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They used to be the most accurate by far until Apple sued them and since then they're a real mixed bag.
 
I seriously doubt this.

1) It's Feb and the phone does not have FCC approval yet

2) Once their is FCC approval it will take a couple months to ramp up production and make sure there are not any major bugs or issues with the production units

To say this vaporware will be in stores in 2-3 months is just based in fantasy. June is pretty ambitious as-is.
 
watch....

and learn.

The Iphone will be out before June. Without a doubt.
FCC is not going to hold this up. The Democratic Congress hasn't had enough time to tax and regulate ... yet. :p
 
Chupa Chupa said:
I seriously doubt this.

1) It's Feb and the phone does not have FCC approval yet

2) Once their is FCC approval it will take a couple months to ramp up production and make sure there are not any major bugs or issues with the production units

To say this vaporware will be in stores in 2-3 months is just based in fantasy. June is pretty ambitious as-is.
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1) How do we know they don't have FCC approval yet?

2) Production has probably been going full steam since before the announcement. Apple can produce as many as they want, they just can't SELL them until they get the FCC's approval I believe.
 
I doubt they will release it much sooner than June. One reason is that Apple wants to make sure they have enough of these babies to keep up with demand. The June date seems much more realistic. What I think Steve is wrong about is the 10 million sold. They will sell double that by the end of 2008.

Many who bought an iPod in the last 5 years will hold off in upgrading until the iPhone comes out. Millions like myself have bought the new shuffles and will wait for the iPhone.

If they do release it in April I will be one happy camper.:D
 
Leoff said:
1) How do we know they don't have FCC approval yet?

2) Production has probably been going full steam since before the announcement. Apple can produce as many as they want, they just can't SELL them until they get the FCC's approval I believe.
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1. We know they don't have FCC approval yet because there hasnt been time, even if they submitted it to the FCC on the day of MWSF.

2. I don't think they'd take such a huge risk as actually assembling them before they got FCC approval, but they might manufacture a lot of the parts in the mean time.

Lets say the FCC got the iPhone on January 9th. Apple might get approval by say March 9, then ramp up production on March 16th. That would give them more than plenty of time to ship by the end of April. There are other things going on behind the scenes, of course. Apple is updating their software, and AT&T is updating their network, but it is not unreasonable to think Apple could get the iPhone onto the market by the end of April.
 
Leoff said:
1) How do we know they don't have FCC approval yet?

2) Production has probably been going full steam since before the announcement. Apple can produce as many as they want, they just can't SELL them until they get the FCC's approval I believe.
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1) FCC approval is a matter of public record. That is why Apple pre-announced in the first place. They didn't want the FCC to announce the iPhone.

2) Obviously you don't understand the reason for FCC approval. It's not a rubber stamp procedure. The FCC tests the phone to make sure it doesn't conflict with other radio waves or use prohibited radio waves. For Apple to start production before approval would not only be folly, it would be the makings for a stock-owner class action lawsuit against Apple if the FCC required changes. Apple may be gathering parts, printing manuals, and such, but I assure you Apple isn't starting production until they get a letter from the FCC.

I think those of you who think Apple can fast track production for April don't understand production logistics. Apple doesn't have an empty factory and they just have to push a button and 1 million units spit out. It's a lot more complicated than that.
 
gauchogolfer said:
Taking a look at the Apple.com job listings, there are tons of opportunities associated with iPhone. It makes me wonder how much there still is to do.
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Any development is good development. Even after the iPhone is released there's going to be features added I'd imagine and to address bugs/gripes.

Software is the easiest part to get right (and wrong for that matter). Once you have the hardware set, it's all software from that point.
 
Chupa Chupa said:
1) FCC approval is a matter of public record. That is why Apple pre-announced in the first place. They didn't want the FCC to announce the iPhone.

2) Obviously you don't understand the reason for FCC approval. It's not a rubber stamp procedure. The FCC tests the phone to make sure it doesn't conflict with other radio waves or use prohibited radio waves. For Apple to start production before approval would not only be folly, it would be the makings for a stock-owner class action lawsuit against Apple if the FCC required changes. Apple may be gathering parts, but I assure you Apple isn't starting production until they get a letter from the FCC.
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1) Yep, FCC approval is a matter of public record. I'm just wondering if anyone in the public has bothered to yet check on if it's been approved or not yet.

2) I do understand the FCC approval guidelines. I can assure you, however, that Apple isn't simply sitting on their hands waiting for the FCC's final go ahead. They've got pre-production units and parts lined up, ready for any possible tweaks the FCC might require.

Basically it comes down to how we define "production." Some make it sound like Apple doesn't even have the outer shell casings made, others are talking about the finished product already in boxes. There is a lot of middle ground.
 
Well

Given how Stevie boy is into this thing you can be sure that if a fast track exists it will be on it.
 
I think Apple stated June as a 'worst case scenario'. Unlike many other companies who keep missing their scheduled release dates, or who announce products that never even make it to the market (a certain Motorola smartphone springs to mind), I think Apple know how bad that looks. Much better to announce a worst case scenario, and then if everything goes smoothly then they can bring things forward a little.

When Apple announced the Intel transition I had a sneeking feeling that they would release them early. On the one hand, they didn't want to tell the developers 'we're switching to intel and they'll be on sale in 6 months' - make the developers think they've got plenty of time to prepare. But on the other hand, if sales of PPC are bound to stall then really they want to get them out asap (obviously the consumer models where universal binary iLife is bundled is a different scenario to the Mac Pro where many people are waiting for CS3).
 
Leoff said:
1) Yep, FCC approval is a matter of public record. I'm just wondering if anyone in the public has bothered to yet check on if it's been approved or not yet.
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There's people who peruse FCC filings everyday for fun, just to see what new gear is coming. TRUST, once the iPhone even has a mention it's going to be relayed at every gadget related blog on the planet.

On a tangential note, why do people keep saying the intel macs were early? Steve said they wanted to have them shipping "by" WWDC 2006. I always thought they were coming sooner rather than later, and would have been more surprised if they didn't come out last January. This seems to be one of those things that's propagated in the tech world without merit.
 
Leoff said:
1) Yep, FCC approval is a matter of public record. I'm just wondering if anyone in the public has bothered to yet check on if it's been approved or not yet.

2) I do understand the FCC approval guidelines. I can assure you, however, that Apple isn't simply sitting on their hands waiting for the FCC's final go ahead. They've got pre-production units and parts lined up, ready for any possible tweaks the FCC might require.


Basically it comes down to how we define "production." Some make it sound like Apple doesn't even have the outer shell casings made, others are talking about the finished product already in boxes. There is a lot of middle ground.
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You are wondering if anyone has bothered to check to see if the phone the entire world is buzzing over has rec'd FCC approval yet. Really!? You don't think that won't be the lead story on every Mac/Cell Phone/CE blog on the planet when that moment occurs? Really!? You don't think bloggers and Wall Street analysts alike check the FCC database daily for pics and leads? Really!?

Also, there is only ONE definition of "production," and that is the actual assembly process which results in a finished product ready for retail. Any efforts leading up to that that are "pre-production." This is standard manufacturing nomenclature. There is no definition wiggle room.

Stuff like box printing, manuals ect., I'm sure is ongoing now. Any FCC changes will be noted in a tip in sheet in the manual and a sticker on the packaging box. Those are easy changes. But Apple is not going to go into production until it gets FCC approval.
 
i had a feeling this was going to happen... Apple has a history of this kind of thing. i don't need a new phone though... i just want to play with it. :)
 
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