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iPhone Competitor Talking Points Revealed
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Well obviously you don't and I don't know much about AIM. However, a lot of people in companies use IM to keep in touch with employees or to communicate. Yes they do it on their mobiles as well. My sister, girlfriend and best friend all use it on their mobiles. They're all professionals and use it.
Oh and none of them use SMS. Well that's not entirely true. They use it, but not often. They prefer IM.
The service has been good (at least no worse than Sprint which was better than T-mo and Cingular for me) also I was told we roam on Verizon's network which is kind of nice. Customer service was not that good at the beginning, but working at Best Buy (at the time) I got the name and number of some higher ups (from our sales rep) and got things taken care of. I have not had to call in a few months and when I did they took care of me. I think when they came out their phones had some innovative features/ideas, but now they seem to be like everything else out there. My friend is getting his Ocean today so I can't wait to see how that is.
Oh come on...FiOS is an awesome service, just because you had one bad experience doesn't mean the entire company is worthless. I've had two bad experiences Apple's phone support...but I still love their products
300 to 400 charges
So 300 to 400 charges for the iPhone Battery. That's only a year and a half or less. I still wish it could be swapped out. So when it dies you lose your phone for a few days? With an iPod that's fine but with a phone?
I love what I've read but I think revision 2 is for me next year.
So 300 to 400 charges for the iPhone Battery. That's only a year and a half or less. I still wish it could be swapped out. So when it dies you lose your phone for a few days? With an iPod that's fine but with a phone?
I love what I've read but I think revision 2 is for me next year.
Agreed, at least two of those issues need to be addressed for a UK/Europe launch, although I will say the camera aint half bad for good light situations. Flash would solve any low light problems of which it certainly has...
those numbers came from mossberg's review i think. it's from one of the reviews. that year and a half crap is that guy's opinion.
haha i hate voice dialing too, its soooo stupid and it takes forever to recognize/program your voice. Also, others can't use it...
Agreed. There are a number of typos, and the "tone" of the document is far too informal for a document of this type. I wouldn't be surprised if this document was developed by someone at an individual store, but I doubt very much that it came from Verizon corporate.
Here are the valid arguments:
1) No IM - some people require IM for business, some people require it for their social life
2) No removable battery - yes, the battery lasts hella long on a charge and will be more than sufficient for most people. But some people, such as international travelers, may often not be near a useable AC outlet for several days
3) Slow EDGE data service - this is obviously valid, but it is offset by wifi and by other carriers having serious weaknesses in their own ways as well
1) No IM - some people require IM for business, some people require it for their social life
2) No removable battery - yes, the battery lasts hella long on a charge and will be more than sufficient for most people. But some people, such as international travelers, may often not be near a useable AC outlet for several days
3) Slow EDGE data service - this is obviously valid, but it is offset by wifi and by other carriers having serious weaknesses in their own ways as well
something stinks, i think its the other cell carriers shittin their pants, thats what it is...
4 lifeIts there so that when you are with your girlfriend and then your wife calls, you don't need to even take the time to check out caller ID.
Its there so that when you are with your girlfriend and then your wife calls, you don't need to even take the time to check out caller ID.
Praise the Lord! You got it!
Yes, this is true. They used to make you pay everytime you used the id function, but I heard that it is now free( +Minutes). Its just a way to get you to download an overpriced ringtone or song to your phone. 1.99 per song!! WTF.
Higher cost of Verizon and Sprint
Pointing to a few short comings does not prove they have a better, more usable product. All reviewers said iPhone as an overall package is a superior product.
By the way, Watch your wallet, youll pay more by using Verizon and Sprint with their poor choices of phone offerings.
Verizon:
- Voice and data Plans start at $80 per month.
- Every "feature" costs extra $$ per month
- Disallows syncing your contact list from your computer via bluetooth (as of early 2007, not sure if they changed)
- To sync with computer you have to go through their service and pay them a monthly fee
Sprint:
- $50 per month for blackberry email and web access only. Voice calls are per minute. Long distance calls are double the price of the per minute calls. Otherwise their BASIC voice plan with 200 minutes is $30/month which adds to $80 per month minimum.
For both Verizon and Sprint, youll be paying a minimum of $20 extra per month, for 24 month contract. So you will actually be paying an extra $480 ($20x24), on top of what they charge for their smart phone ($100-$400).
Thats not including the monthly fees they charge for their features. In addition, that cost does not include the amount of time for a person to learn figure how to do things in unintuitive ways on poorly designed devices.
Pointing to a few short comings does not prove they have a better, more usable product. All reviewers said iPhone as an overall package is a superior product.
By the way, Watch your wallet, youll pay more by using Verizon and Sprint with their poor choices of phone offerings.
Verizon:
- Voice and data Plans start at $80 per month.
- Every "feature" costs extra $$ per month
- Disallows syncing your contact list from your computer via bluetooth (as of early 2007, not sure if they changed)
- To sync with computer you have to go through their service and pay them a monthly fee
Sprint:
- $50 per month for blackberry email and web access only. Voice calls are per minute. Long distance calls are double the price of the per minute calls. Otherwise their BASIC voice plan with 200 minutes is $30/month which adds to $80 per month minimum.
For both Verizon and Sprint, youll be paying a minimum of $20 extra per month, for 24 month contract. So you will actually be paying an extra $480 ($20x24), on top of what they charge for their smart phone ($100-$400).
Thats not including the monthly fees they charge for their features. In addition, that cost does not include the amount of time for a person to learn figure how to do things in unintuitive ways on poorly designed devices.
But all these phones come with crap plastic lenses! You get more Megapixels, you just get to see the limitations of your camera optics bigger!
Samsung has a 10MP (or something ludicruous) cameraphone. I can see specks of dirt on my 6MP DSLR with a 50mm/F1.4 lens. A higher resolution plastic lens with my fingerprint on it is going to give me a good picture? I don't think so.
Unless you are buying a BB Sprint is cheaper than AT&T. Of course Sprint doesn't have the iPhone. I actually wonder, if Wiki's customer base numbers are correct, why didn't Apple ask Sprint, hmm.
The problem for them is that every few days or so Apple chips away at one of the major complaints. "The battery life sucks"; turns out it is the best in the market. "The screen will scratch easily like all those iPods"; Apple puts in glass, and everyone who has actually used it really praises it. "No way that keyboard can work"; once again, everyone that has actually used it replies differently.
And virtually every other complaint (VPN, Exchange support, etc.) may already be there or is just a software update away. Every time you sync your iPhone, it can get better.
You are right in that it is good business sense to come up with a response for those few customers that will come into their stores over the next several days asking them if they have the iPhone
, but I bet they don't go this far for every other competing phone on the market. The iPhone buzz and level of mindshare is phenomenal, and I bet the competitors are feeling overwhelmed right now.
they should have mentioned the outrageous price tag for a freaking phone.
If you compare the IPHONE to other cell phones... yah... its expensive.
If you compare the IPHONE to other smartphones... then... is it more expensive?
Compare the iphone to the right product.
Its like saying WOW... that macbook pro is SO expensive compared to my 300 dollar cell phone....
Untill apple fixes the last two points, i will not look at realistically getting the iphone.
No removable battery is just being greedy on apple's part, sure it lasts 8 hrs, but i'm also sure in a matter of 6months-1year it will last half that if anything... ontop of that i always have 2 spares, one kept in my car, and one in my briefcase. It's not realistic to think i can charge it anytime i want. slow edge is definitely a problem, especially if the area i am around doesn't have alot of hotspots. How can a device that is so reliant on data service offer such a slow information gateway.
the im thing is also a bit being greedy imo, and wanting people to use texting, but since they offer unlimited texting on their plans, i guess that would be somewhat alright.
obviously this phone is defiantly offering a new gateway and steps up a legaue in the phone market, but in terms of completeness, i definitely don't think apple has got it quite yet. But than again, neither did the ipod in its first model, and it's doing just fine now...