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iPhone Dev-Team to release(supposedly) unlock for 3.1.3 MFW 05.12.01

Why not release it now? I mean, we must assume that there are made many iPhone 4 by now, and those are running on the final 4.0 software (Or they will very soon - Before the 3rd of June - if Apple should have any possibility of selling the phones rather quickly), which means that Apple won't be able to block the exploit before the release. Of course they will do this, but they'll have to wait to 4.x and all of us 3GS-users will have our unlock a week before :D
 
MathiasVH said:
Why not release it now? I mean, we must assume that there are made many iPhone 4 by now, and those are running on the final 4.0 software (Or they will very soon - Before the 3rd of June - if Apple should have any possibility of selling the phones rather quickly), which means that Apple won't be able to block the exploit before the release. Of course they will do this, but they'll have to wait to 4.x and all of us 3GS-users will have our unlock a week before :D
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2 reasons Dev team is not going to take the chance that Apple fixes this exploit prior to release of 4.0.

and Dev-Team tries there best to release stable Jb and unlocks they test thoroughly before releasing to the mass public. so they might still consider beta.

oh on more Dev-Team doesn't have a ego and have to be the 1st on the block to release something. they just release solid stuff! :D
 
MathiasVH said:
Why not release it now? I mean, we must assume that there are made many iPhone 4 by now, and those are running on the final 4.0 software (Or they will very soon - Before the 3rd of June - if Apple should have any possibility of selling the phones rather quickly), which means that Apple won't be able to block the exploit before the release.
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Releasing it now would allow Apple to include an upgraded baseband in the release version of 4.0 for 3GS, meaning that people without pwnable phones could not upgrade to 4.0 without upgrading their baseband and losing the ability to unlock (just like they did when they upgraded to 3.1.X). They aren't waiting for the release of the iPhone 4, but for the release of 4.0.
 
I understand that, but my point with the iPhone 4's being loaded with the 4.0 was that if they load software to their phones, there's "No turning back", since I doubt that they will have available resources to "re-load" all the produced units with new ipsw's? I may be totally wrong, in fact, I'm quite likely to be so ;)
 
MathiasVH said:
I understand that, but my point with the iPhone 4's being loaded with the 4.0 was that if they load software to their phones, there's "No turning back", since I doubt that they will have available resources to "re-load" all the produced units with new ipsw's? I may be totally wrong, in fact, I'm quite likely to be so ;)
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Once the 4.0 firmware is available to general public, the tools will follow.

We can discuss it all day and night and offer every opinion on earth, but the tools will follow the general firmware release.

And this "Why don't they just release it now" has been beat to death.
 

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MathiasVH said:
I understand that, but my point with the iPhone 4's being loaded with the 4.0 was that if they load software to their phones, there's "No turning back", since I doubt that they will have available resources to "re-load" all the produced units with new ipsw's? I may be totally wrong, in fact, I'm quite likely to be so ;)
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While I cannot state with 100% confidence we are talking about the ego maniac Steve Jobs. If there is an exploit that he could have fixed before the official release he would order all his million of Chinese workers to reload the millions of the phones that are still across the pacific. For the ones in the states I'm sure he would have the thousands of apple employees do the same just to prove a point. Steve Jobs reminds me of Smithers from the Simpsons.
 
SavMBP15 said:
While I cannot state with 100% confidence we are talking about the ego maniac Steve Jobs. If there is an exploit that he could have fixed before the official release he would order all his million of Chinese workers to reload the millions of the phones that are still across the pacific. For the ones in the states I'm sure he would have the thousands of apple employees do the same just to prove a point. Steve Jobs reminds me of Smithers from the Simpsons.
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he could always have the police kick down your door and update your firmware menacingly
 
Awesome!

I recently sold a 16GB 3GS that was unlocked on 3.1.3 for $505 on eBay. I was surprised I got so much, but I guess its was because it's getting rarer and rarer to see an unlocked 3GS on 3.1.3 with each day that passes. I'm glad that there hasn't been an unlock for the most recent firmware because that's probably what boosted the value of the iPhone I sold.
 
MathiasVH said:
I understand that, but my point with the iPhone 4's being loaded with the 4.0 was that if they load software to their phones, there's "No turning back", since I doubt that they will have available resources to "re-load" all the produced units with new ipsw's? I may be totally wrong, in fact, I'm quite likely to be so ;)
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They might not reload the initial batch of iPhone 4s, but they certainly could fix it before releasing the 3GS and 3G versions of the software. Releasing before the 3GS and 3G versions of 4.0 are released would risk the ability of millions of people to upgrade their 3G and 3GS phones to 4.0 and maintain their unlock. Anyone with the new bootrom would be stuck at 3.1.3 until a new unlock could be found. Why waste an exploit like that when a couple of weeks will assure that everyone is able to have an unlocked 3GS?
 
I hope they release the 3.1.3 and 4.0 unlock the day the software is launched. Don't give Apple a chance to patch it before its officially out. Plus, I need to be able to sell my phone! :p
 
AHDuke99 said:
I hope they release the 3.1.3 and 4.0 unlock the day the software is launched. Don't give Apple a chance to patch it before its officially out. Plus, I need to be able to sell my phone! :p
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I suspect that they will coordinate with Saurik and will wait for people to get their 4.0 SHSH on file before they release it. Whatever they do, you can be sure that it will be what is best for the community, even if it means you have to wait a few days to sell your phone.
 
AHDuke99 said:
I hope they release the 3.1.3 and 4.0 unlock the day the software is launched. Don't give Apple a chance to patch it before its officially out. Plus, I need to be able to sell my phone! :p
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Quite sure it won't be the same day. As stated, people need to get 4.0 hashes saved before a firmware update which may follow.
 
thelatinist said:
I suspect that they will coordinate with Saurik and will wait for people to get their 4.0 SHSH on file before they release it. Whatever they do, you can be sure that it will be what is best for the community, even if it means you have to wait a few days to sell your phone.
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I can certainly wait a few days to sell it. I just want the opportunity to unlock it won't be swept under the rug for a few MONTHS. ;)
 
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dhlizard said:
Quite sure it won't be the same day. As stated, people need to get 4.0 hashes saved before a firmware update which may follow.
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Hey guys,
So, I've been at this for a few months now, and just when I think I've got a handle on the whole process I read something I don't understand. I have a jb'd and unlocked 3gs, and I'm looking forward to updating the OS to 4.0 when it comes out, and when the tools for the 4.0 jb/unlock are available. I understand the reasoning behind when the dev team releases their tools, so I'm all clear on that. What I'm unclear on is the sequence of events that will happen between now and when I'll be a happy unlocked 4.0 user :D Here's all that my small mind understands at this point:

1) Apple releases OS 4.0
2) Dev-team releases tools to jb/unlock 4.0
3) I update my OS
4) I jb/unlock my phone

Could you help me fill in the pieces to this puzzle that I'm missing?
Like, where does getting my hashes saved with saurik enter the picture?
Anything else I need to know?
Above all, I want to avoid some kind of colossal mistake, like updating my OS to an 'unable to unlock' state, like so many have encountered with 3.1.3.

Your thoughts are much appreciated :)
 
idyllwildjoe said:
Hey guys,
So, I've been at this for a few months now, and just when I think I've got a handle on the whole process I read something I don't understand. I have a jb'd and unlocked 3gs, and I'm looking forward to updating the OS to 4.0 when it comes out, and when the tools for the 4.0 jb/unlock are available. I understand the reasoning behind when the dev team releases their tools, so I'm all clear on that. What I'm unclear on is the sequence of events that will happen between now and when I'll be a happy unlocked 4.0 user :D Here's all that my small mind understands at this point:

1) Apple releases OS 4.0
2) Dev-team releases tools to jb/unlock 4.0
3) I update my OS
4) I jb/unlock my phone

Could you help me fill in the pieces to this puzzle that I'm missing?
Like, where does getting my hashes saved with saurik enter the picture?
Anything else I need to know?
Above all, I want to avoid some kind of colossal mistake, like updating my OS to an 'unable to unlock' state, like so many have encountered with 3.1.3.

Your thoughts are much appreciated :)
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Dev-team will give full recommended instructions at the time of release such as putting your SHSH on file if you have a 3GS or possibly the new 4G. Also Iclarified and Hackulus usually are quick to get detailed tutorials up. usually Dev-team you need to cook the OS. it's a more through JB then Blackra1n or Spirit.
 
Man, I'd really like this to happen soon! I have a 3G iPhone with 3.1.3 / 5.12.1 / 6.08 BL that I would like to unlock and sell!
 
I see this thread is active so I will dear ask my question here.
Is there any way to activate an Iphone 3gs 3.1.3, a newer baseband without the original sim card (AT&T), for I have reseted it and now it is quite useless, as I am form Moldova:(
 
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