New York State was real quick to roll out a digital Covid vax card so they could keep tabs on their people, but for something actually useful like this? Crickets.
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iPhone Driver's License Support Expands to Iowa
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If you are driving, you must have a valid driver's license, and present this license along with vehicle registration and proof of insurance, when requested by a law enforcement officer, in all states. Looking you up is not the issue. If you are a passenger, or you are on the street and a police officer stops you, laws vary.
Iowa DOT adds this note:
"You’ll still need to carry a physical ID for use with law enforcement and venues where proof of age is required, but mobile IDs are not yet accepted. In the future, you can look for more places accepting Iowa driver’s license and ID in Apple Wallet."
So really this is just more of a backup solution for now, and probably expect the places that accept it to be pretty limited.
"You’ll still need to carry a physical ID for use with law enforcement and venues where proof of age is required, but mobile IDs are not yet accepted. In the future, you can look for more places accepting Iowa driver’s license and ID in Apple Wallet."
So really this is just more of a backup solution for now, and probably expect the places that accept it to be pretty limited.
I really wish my state would accept the digital license in place of the physical. I had to call the help desk to get mine added (on phone and watch) for particular state today.
Keep tabs on you? Like once a year when you voluntarily might get a covid shot? Not a very effective "tab". Why would anyone want to track that unless you were required to get the shot, like health care workers?
Got mine here in Ohio. Hasn't been a single case where I could use it rather than my physical ID. . . neat, maybe a step in the direction, but otherwise, meh . . .
Iowa and Kansas don't even share a border.
If this isn’t accepted extremely widely as official ID in lieu of the physical one…
What is actually the point?
What is actually the point?
Good luck with that
While here in the US things we've grown by many leaps and bounds in the way of not having to rely on physical cards and cash as much, we still have a long way to go before we truly live in a walletless society
Hate to say it, but it probably won't happen in our lifetime, that is if it does
Yes we are due to get this in the UK around the year 3000....
The immediate point is to use it at TSA. Or to buy alcohol in an app.
Long term the idea is to replace physical IDs, slowly. Because part of the problem is the actual laws in place that require you have your plastic card, not even an image of it, but the card itself, in order to be legally accepted.
It's all about building the future. Wallet-free. Apple Pay for instance used to be accepted basically nowhere. Though Apple Pay itself is actually just NFC payments that predated Apple Pay, but most stores just didn't bother with contactless payments until around 2020 or so, in the USA at least, in Europe a different story. But anyways Rome wasn't built in a day.
Yes. Jobs and Woz were raised by a she-wolf and Jobs killed Woz after arguing about user upgradeable designs and became King of Apple.
Let's say I wnt to buy beer and I don't look 30. How does the cashier at the register verify that the digital ID is valid? Do they simply look at the iPhone's screen? If so, I could make a JPG photo of a screen and display that in the Photos app. So, I assume this has to use some kind of encrypted message, but then to be accepted, the cashier would need a reader and some software. So it would only work in places that have invested in the ID reader?
So my question I "What does a person need to have in other to verify the ID?
So my question I "What does a person need to have in other to verify the ID?
(Cashier) "Sir, do you have some ID I could see to verify your ID?"
There is no need for the UK to adopt it as there is no requirement to carry a driving licence when driving - if stopped by the police you have 7 days to go to a police station with it.
This system is Apple Wallet ID and uses NFC. It’s an NFC scan like Apple Pay. They can also use an app, ie the app does the ID request, you accept, the app tells the store you’re in the store and you’re of age.
However most liquor stores won’t bother with this system, and I don’t think the NFC part of it is accepted outside of TSA in a few airports. So it’s plastic card it is until someone says otherwise.
Have you been to Iowa? I assume not, but don’t dis my state.
Simple, you don't. The mDL in Apple Wallet provides the information to be scanned via NFC. If they have a handheld NFC scanner, you hold your phone up, authorize the lookup with FaceID/TouchID (just like you do for a payment), and they scan it with their purpose-built scanner, without ever touching your phone (IIRC in some states the laws specifically say they can't touch your phone), and it'll tell them all the necessary info right there, without having to go back to the patrol car.
If they don't have a scanner yet (I get the impression that basically no police departments have them currently), then you hand them your old-school plastic license card, just as you do now.
This is a chicken&egg problem - we have to get lots of mDL licenses out there before they'll start getting the scanners to use with them. Give it a few years.
FWIW, there is a scanner app that can be used on a phone (or dedicated hardware) to do the scanning, which appears to be marketed towards bars and such. I've looked into it, but it requires an account and a per-scan charge of some sort (like I said, aimed at businesses - they say "ask for a demo" instead of giving pricing), so I didn't try it. Apparently it can scan the QR/bar codes on the backs of drivers licenses as well: Mobile ID Acceptance on iPhone Using VeriScan.
Details? I have the California mDL in my Apple Wallet. Presenting it doesn't even give your full name (see the pic in the story) - everything it offers in the way of information is only available via a special purpose NFC scanner. Which most (all?) of the police departments don't have yet.
So, for now, you show them your old-school plastic-card drivers license. When they get to where they have the scanners, a few years down the road, they'll bring the scanner up to your window, you present the card in your Apple Wallet (just like you do when buying something), and they scan it.
If their scanner isn't working, you fall back to the old-school card. In 5-10 years that won't happen as often.
There is no national ID card in the US, the state Drivers Licenses are basically it (especially if you've gone through the verification process for RealID). And the vast majority of US citizens don't have passports, as they never leave the US.
I'm sure Apple would love to get passport support, and other country's national ID cards, into Apple Wallet, but that's a lont, twisty, and steep road.
Yes, a reader will be necessary. It might be a smartphone app, eventually. No, they don't look at the screen, so a screenshot won't help - all you see is your first name / last initial (look at the pic in the article). You present it like any other card in your Apple Wallet, and they scan it with an app that requests age verification, and you authorize the release of that information (the interesting bit is, this can just say "yes, they are over 21" rather than giving an age or birthday).
Basically nobody has the reader yet - there's no reason to get it until people have the card in their phones. Classic chicken/egg problem. Give it a few years, and more places will accept it.
Certain highly funded police departments in Ohio can already read the digital ID. It's gonna happen sooner than you think. It's just an NFC reader on their side.