Thanks, but you are not sure I will assume. They could add this, but I was not expecting this exclusion.
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iPhone Duo Can Do Split View, But Not Like Your iPad
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Hopefully they might give us an option in an update along with being able to add more than four apps in the dock and damn battery % being available on the home screen.
I mean there’s enough screen real estate why is it excluded!? 🤦♂️
I mean there’s enough screen real estate why is it excluded!? 🤦♂️
klasma
macrumors G4
The way it worked up to iPadOS 18: https://support.apple.com/guide/ipad/open-two-apps-in-split-view-ipad08c9970c/18.0/ipados/18.0
arthurgd3
macrumors regular
Mrkevinfinnerty
macrumors 68040
It's lets you 'pin' a video to the top of the screen in portrait mode while you use another app. That is what is going on here i think.
Starfia
macrumors 68000
Haven't iPhone apps been expected to fit arbitrary sizes for years – particularly this year with the emphasis on resizability?
klasma
macrumors G4
You drag it to close one of the apps. I agree that you’d expect to be able to resize.
klasma
macrumors G4
It would create too much trouble with things like notifications and widgets, and with installing the iPhone and iPad version of the same app simultaneously. It’s easier for Apple to have developers add support for the Duo.
Hajj.david
macrumors 6502a
The biggest disappointment is the lack of iPad app support. There are a lot of great productivity apps, and games that are exclusive to iPad because of the screen size. Now we have the bigger screen size, but we can't use it.
While this is true, I feel like people are forgetting that, especially after Apple announces a new device and releases it, they make a lot of software adjustments and changes pretty quickly.
Anyone remember when the always on display was first released and the only option was to have a full color lock screen constantly displaying? And then Apple immediately added an option for no wallpaper, blurred wallpaper, etc?
We are going to see a lot of those type of additions throughout the next year on the iPhone duo.
I’ve seen a lot of people complain that the vertical dock is only on one side, guarantee you’ll be able to swap it to the other side by 27.2.
More granular app resizing is absolutely going to be something added either in the 27 or 28 update cycles.
Anyone remember when the always on display was first released and the only option was to have a full color lock screen constantly displaying? And then Apple immediately added an option for no wallpaper, blurred wallpaper, etc?
We are going to see a lot of those type of additions throughout the next year on the iPhone duo.
I’ve seen a lot of people complain that the vertical dock is only on one side, guarantee you’ll be able to swap it to the other side by 27.2.
More granular app resizing is absolutely going to be something added either in the 27 or 28 update cycles.
To be fair, now that the iPhone has more RAM than most iPads do, and has a processor that’s basically the same power as an M4, the difference between pro iPhone apps and pro iPad apps doesn’t necessarily even have to exist.
The iPhone and iPad are fundamentally the exact same operating system, developers can absolutely bring their iPad apps to the iPhone duo with very little optimization needed.
Mrkevinfinnerty
macrumors 68040
Yep, it is just another spin on picture in picture. It shows exactly the same two apps on the product page on the Apple site.
This isn't PIP or a variation, PIP layers over a full screen application, this a split screen with distinct window borders
ConfusedChris
macrumors 6502
“it would also be a nightmare for developers to build support into their iPhone apps.”
Source?
It’s just resizing like everywhere else.
Source?
It’s just resizing like everywhere else.
Yes, Joz mentioned that on the TechRadar interview that MacRumors posted about today.
That’s why you still need to buy an iPad Pro — otherwise the ecosystem wouldn’t be functioning properly. Apple can’t possibly give the $1,999 Duo too much iPad functionality and risk saving you another purchase.
Mrkevinfinnerty
macrumors 68040
Ok but this is clearly just the pinned video functionality that is shown and described on Apple's site as a feature when in portrait mode and not an indication that the app windows can be resized.
I didn't say otherwise, the point is the split screen adjustment capability is there, they are choosing to restrict it. Just like android has had split screen for a decade - really no reason this functionality doesn't exist on iOS other than apple refusing to allow it.
klasma
macrumors G4
It’s a variation of PiP in the sense that it’s limited to videos, and the interface for the video frame is the same as within a PiP frame; you can’t combine two apps that way.
klasma
macrumors G4
You can’t change the aspect ratio of iPhone apps running on iPad in Stage Manager, so I don’t think there’s an existing context where iPhone apps would expect to be resized while running. (But maybe I’m missing something.) Being able to run at different aspect ratios isn’t the same as being resizable at runtime. Of course, Duo iOS could restart the app upon resize, but that might be too disruptive.
klasma
macrumors G4
Ah, good point. I wonder if apps will have to opt in to that capability, because I would certainly expect serious bugs for apps that don’t expect being resized in that way.
