maybe jobs should get better engineers then, all the other mobile phone companies are able to put 3g into thin handsets, and those handsets are not burning their users hands or ears.
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iPhone edge vs. Nokia 3G: webpage loading shootout.
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maybe jobs should get better engineers then, all the other mobile phone companies are able to put 3g into thin handsets, and those handsets are not burning their users hands or ears.
I couldn't agree more. All the internet devices work just as fast as any other phone if not faster. For example stocks widget and weather widget help me get that information faster then other phone who have to look it up on the internet. As far as page loading the iPhone is always up to par or faster with multiple 3G devices I have tested out in my area with different carriers.
Yout tube either never needs to preload or it is preloaded before I finish watching the clip so no wait time, no problem.
This guy has to just live in an area where Edge is really bad.
This argument is pretty cool, since they seemed to be around the same speed. But it might as well be locked by mods, since people want to DEFEND their investment (iPhone) and will go to great lengths to pretend that EDGE is better than 3G even though it is not. Imagine, if Edge loads stuff on the iPhone this fast, how much faster 3G will be on the iPhone!
Anyway, contrary to what most people will say on this forum, probably half of them will end up buying 3G iPhones when they finally come out and ditch their old Edge iPhones.
Anyway, contrary to what most people will say on this forum, probably half of them will end up buying 3G iPhones when they finally come out and ditch their old Edge iPhones.
The iPhone on EDGE will be incomparably slow to the iPhone on 3G. Just because an iPhone on EDGE can be faster in some circumstances than another phone on 3G, doesn't mean the conclusion that EDGE holds up to 3G isn't TRUE... its just another way of looking at it, right?
It's kind of snooty to say iPhone users that claim to be satisfied now with EDGE, will run to buy the 3G iPhone when its out. Let's be honest... if it was ONLY 3G Apple added... it wouldn't be much of a draw for MOST people who already had an iPhone (it would draw those who thought EDGE was too slow and didn't buy because of it). But Apple would never launch so limited an update to the phone would they (considering the quote about iPhone 2.0 being radically different)? The next iPhone will likely have a number of other hardware specific enhancements that make it irresistable to those early adopters who would only be too happy to sell and buy again. Implying otherwise is disingenuous.
I'd expect, at least that Apple will add a second camera for video conference (Jobs ha commented that todays phones don't fully take advantage of video 3G anyway, and he's right), it'll have a GPS (likely), and more memory (at least twice as much). Don't make safe bets. Make some real predictions.
~ CB
I can't believe this is even being entertained!
3G BLOWS EDGE out of the water. Put your iPhone on wifi, and browse the web. Notice a difference? Of course you do, and 3G is very VERY close to DSL speeds (I had a 3G [hone tethered to a PC and tested at 1024kb/sec).
It's funny how all of a sudden MMS, 3G, and A2DP mean nothing in fanboy-land. I LOVE my iPhone but I can admit to its flaws...
3G BLOWS EDGE out of the water. Put your iPhone on wifi, and browse the web. Notice a difference? Of course you do, and 3G is very VERY close to DSL speeds (I had a 3G [hone tethered to a PC and tested at 1024kb/sec).
It's funny how all of a sudden MMS, 3G, and A2DP mean nothing in fanboy-land. I LOVE my iPhone but I can admit to its flaws...
I wish I could say it would be a foolish assumption, but it's generally a true one: people don't realize what they need and that what they are buying is way overkill (very often). Like many people who keep upgrading macbook pros to "surf the net". Anyhow yes I agree if they added many more features which they probably will, I would be hard pressed not to upgrade myself, even though I dont use EDGE or 3G since in Canada mobile internet costs an arm and a leg.
That is just not true and yet I hear it repeated frequently. AT&T 3G covers 10s of millions of people in virtually every major center in the country and it's expanding rapidly. Hell I live in Fresno and I've had 3G here for over a year.
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Exactly. Just another of many iPhone myths floating around, fed by poorly researched so-called news sites and blogs that mostly repeat each other's junk.
The problem with the term 3G is that people seem to be lumping ALL 3G technologies and their accompanying speeds into it.
Regular, 384kbps "3G" or UMTS is not really faster than an iPhone with EDGE in reality.
HSDPA is generally much much faster though (typical speeds at the moment of 3.6 - 7.2mbps). So it is important to distinguish between the two.
An iPhone with your regular 3G speeds is meh to me. An iPhone with HSDPA is where things get interesting.
Regular, 384kbps "3G" or UMTS is not really faster than an iPhone with EDGE in reality.
HSDPA is generally much much faster though (typical speeds at the moment of 3.6 - 7.2mbps). So it is important to distinguish between the two.
An iPhone with your regular 3G speeds is meh to me. An iPhone with HSDPA is where things get interesting.
Yeah, a guy I know keep whining about this and talks about how he's not getting one until it comes with 3g and stuff. I just kind go, sure, whatever, I've still had mine for far longer and it doesn't bother me, but I snicker on the inside at his over anxiousness. I've heard so many people with 3g phones complaining about it not working, and frankly the ones I tried were not faster.
3G simply is not that big of a deal and is over-hyped, and yet again Apple was smart in knowing this and just keeping with what they know to be good technology.
3G simply is not that big of a deal and is over-hyped, and yet again Apple was smart in knowing this and just keeping with what they know to be good technology.
My favorite thing about statements such as the above is that if you aren't bothered by not having certain features, then you are automatically a fanboy. Like, if I don't care about MMS, then I am a fanboy. If, while I would rather have faster 3G speed, but EDGE is fine for now, then I am a fanboy. A2DP, well, I had to look that up to even know what it was.
Believe it or not, people, many people don't base their existence off their cell phone's features. Younger generations (damn, I sound like a parent now) seem much more "involved" with their cell phones than others. I can count on one hand the number of times I have wanted MMS for something. It might take two hands to count the number of times I've groaned with EDGE service. But, then again, I probably use my phone in one week as much as many cellfanboys do in a few hours. I got it for what it DID have. I didn't buy it THEN complain about what it didn't have. Oh, but I'm a fanboy.
Some people are hardcore phone users, most people are not.
People who defend EDGE would not be hypocrites for buying a 3G iPhone. They aren't saying that 3G isn't an upgrade, just that EDGE isn't the dog's dinner that some make it out to be.
Oh please, how Apple fanboyish can you be!!!
3G is rated for up to 5-10 mb/s
EDGE is 230kb/s
3G blows EDGE out of the water.
Then why is SJ talking about releasing a 3G iPhone next?
Funny for a phone that's supposedly "5 years ahead of the competition", they're mightly slow and joining the 3G revolution.
I dunno since day one I've always had trouble loading YouTube videos on my iPhone... it just seems so slow and bleh... especially when you want to show your friend a video randomly.
See this is where you show yourself up to not having a clue.
There are many different implementations of "3G". So you can't just say "up to 5-10mb/s". MOST 3G phones out there are limited to 384kbs. The phones that have HSDPA or EVDO can do the kind of speeds you are talking about, and have the informal moniker of 3.5G to distinguish the fact they are much faster than regular 3G. So again, the concensus that the value proposition on the iPhone is whether it is 3G or not is completely ridiculous. At least be specific in respect to which third gen implementation you are talking about.
Secondly, EDGE speeds depend on implementation.
4 timeslots = 238kbps maximum.
8 timeslots = 473kbps maximum. FASTER than your basic 3G (UMTS R99)