not true rice does not create lower pressure that would suck the moisture out it only absorbs whatever comes out with very slow evaporation. to speed up evaporation you need increased temperature not a bag of rice.
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not true rice does not create lower pressure that would suck the moisture out it only absorbs whatever comes out with very slow evaporation. to speed up evaporation you need increased temperature not a bag of rice.
Moisture will move from higher concetration to lower concentration. Nothing was said about lowering pressure.
The rice DOES create a dryer area outside the phone so the moisture, in the phone, will migrate to the lower moisture area, in effect, pulling the moisture from inside the phone to outside the phone.
Moisture will move from higher concetration to lower concentration. Nothing was said about lowering pressure.
The rice DOES create a dryer area outside the phone so the moisture, in the phone, will migrate to the lower moisture area, in effect, pulling the moisture from inside the phone to outside the phone.
outside air is dry enough to make evaporation possible the rate of evaporation increases much more due to temp difference than due to humidity difference. water molecules need energy to to start coming out and you give them that energy with higher temp.
Rice trick:
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/apple/iphone-water-damage-rescue-soaked-device-rice-trick-3455144/
http://lifehacker.com/5435480/testimonial-rice-resurrects-even-the-most-soaked-of-gadgets
I'm not making a statement on it either way, just posting these. I've never used rice.
I do know the water it's dropped in is important. If it's salt water, dirty water or contains pretty much anything it's better to wash or submerge it in distilled water before it dries because what's in the water can cause shorts when it dries. I've done this to everything electronic I have dropped in water over the years and had good luck with them coming back to life.
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/apple/iphone-water-damage-rescue-soaked-device-rice-trick-3455144/
http://lifehacker.com/5435480/testimonial-rice-resurrects-even-the-most-soaked-of-gadgets
I'm not making a statement on it either way, just posting these. I've never used rice.
I do know the water it's dropped in is important. If it's salt water, dirty water or contains pretty much anything it's better to wash or submerge it in distilled water before it dries because what's in the water can cause shorts when it dries. I've done this to everything electronic I have dropped in water over the years and had good luck with them coming back to life.
i would not drop it in distillate water, alcohol is much batter and dries quickly
The phone is already wet so it can't possibly hurt it, it can only remove the impurities left by the other water. Alcohol probably would not hurt, but since it's already soaked with nasty water distilled can only help. I'n m not saying let it soak, just wash it out.
actually alcohol would flush impurities better, mix with water and the mixture (alcohol) would evaporate at much faster rate than just adding more water.
I do not thing that speed is worth heating up the phone past warm. The rice WILL suck the moisture out of the inside of the phone in time.
You do it your way and I will do it mine. I have been using cell phone from the time they filled up your whole car trunk and never dropped any of my phone in water, but have had a few friends do it and the rice for several days worked perfectly except for the one that landed in salt water.
Thanks for that little physics lesson, may your water molecules "start coming out" for you!
LOLI do not thing that speed is worth heating up the phone past warm. The rice WILL suck the moisture out of the inside of the phone in time.
You do it your way and I will do it mine. I have been using cell phone from the time they filled up your whole car trunk and never dropped any of my phone in water, but have had a few friends do it and the rice for several days worked perfectly except for the one that landed in salt water.
Thanks for that little physics lesson, may your water molecules "start coming out" for you!
And I know few people that dropped their iPhones in water and used rice without any results. And I explained it already why and how to increase the odds of reviving a water damaged iPhone.
Really, do it the way you think best, but you would not be adding more water. You would be replacing the water with particles with pure water, which does not conduct electricity causing shorts. It's the impurities in water that conduct electricity. You can't add more water to a phone that's been submerged, you can only displace what's already there. From there I would dry with a hair dryer.
But there's no rule, everyone should do what they feel best. This has worked very well for me though for decades. Everyone should find what works for them.
you don't understand with alcohol you would displace the water that is already there and alcohol even dissolved with water would not start damaging corrosion as opposed to just pure water. on top of that alcohol does not conduct electricity because it's covalent bonds stop the movement of electrons so they don't lets electricity through.
Of course I know what alcohol does, I have used alcohol to displace water in gas tanks since my first car, a 1966 galaxy 500 (bought 1970). The corrosion does not set in during the 10 minutes I flush it our and start drying with the hair dryer. Don't take it personal, I am not doing it that way to spite you. I don't know what alcohol may affect in there, glue, plastic, rubber etc. so I don't use it. This works for me, I posted it for info only, you are not forced to do it. I do know I have used it multiple times in my life and it works great.
I'm done.
I just try to point out that alcohol is safer for electronics, plastic, rubber, glue etc than distilled water as it evaporates almost immediately.
It's already wet, submerged!!! You seem to be missing that, rinsing out the bad water with distilled cannot make it worse. There is no safer since it's been submerged. The biggest damage with water and electronics is the particles in water drying and causing a short or the person turning it on and causing a short. Most water has particles in it to cause shorts, distilled does not.
Actually alcohol dries out the items you named also. I have seen it used to clean auto trim (rubber, plastic), etc and it does an number on it by drying it out. Water does not, I have never seen rain immediately mess up, dry out, a car's trim.
http://www.cnet.com/how-to/using-desiccants-to-soak-up-wet-electronics/
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I know it is already wet, submerged if it wasn't there wouldn't be any issue.
It it much better to mix the water inside with alcohol so it would change to slightly dissolved alcohol which is noncorrosive, non conductive and evaporates at higher rate. Any effect of alcohol on silicone rubber like the one holding home button and glue is negligible and most important parts of the iPhone are just plastic, metal, glass.
Alcohol washes salts and other charged contaminants as well as water but has better properties as I mentioned above.
Maybe....Things tend to go bad many days or weeks later. Hope its fine, but don't be surprised it may have some issues later on.
It is time that Apple water protect their iphones.
The technology is already here and samsung, sony and others are already using.
http://www.liquipel.com
I hope that the next iphone is water resistant, also the ipad could be great.
The technology is already here and samsung, sony and others are already using.
http://www.liquipel.com
I hope that the next iphone is water resistant, also the ipad could be great.