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iPhone Fold Expected to Claim 22% of Foldable Market, 34% of Revenue in First Year
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But the Fold is not a phone, it is a tablet+phone that fits in a pocket. Huge difference.
AVP didn’t have a purpose to justify the price. Foldable phones are actually pretty nice for people who need a bigger screen that goes into their pockets.
I will definitely buy this. I don’t want to carry an iPad in a bag with me everywhere.
Have you spent two or three sessions at an Apple Store investigating the AVP? IMO it is hugely interesting tech, but it does take some hands-on time to reasonably understand. Simply assuming one understands what AVP represents is not enough.
Two, and borrowed a buddy's for about a week.
Interesting tech, indeed, but ultimately useless. He ended up selling it not longer after I gave it back.
Sorry, I find the AVP more interesting than a bendy phone.
Given inflation exacerbated by tariffs, you are correct that absolute prices will probably not come down. However for years with iPhones we have gotten much more tech competence (= value) every year without raised prices.
Total BS. All these so called analysts know that iPhone's share in the premium segment (≥ $1000) is over %90 globally. For anything more expensive than that, that share will be even higher.
Add this the fact that most Android users who are interested in foldables, and afford one, already have them. They won't be willing to change their existing devices because there is competition from iPhone. I can argue that Apple will also get a large portion of those upgrading customers.
My prediction is that as soon as a foldable iPhone is launched, it will instantly gain 90%+ of the foldable market, which will increase in size by over 100%. On the Android side, sale volumes will increase significantly, because foldables will be cool once a foldable iPhone is out, but their shares will go down to sub %10, unless Android manufacturers find a way to sell foldables for less than $1000.
Add this the fact that most Android users who are interested in foldables, and afford one, already have them. They won't be willing to change their existing devices because there is competition from iPhone. I can argue that Apple will also get a large portion of those upgrading customers.
My prediction is that as soon as a foldable iPhone is launched, it will instantly gain 90%+ of the foldable market, which will increase in size by over 100%. On the Android side, sale volumes will increase significantly, because foldables will be cool once a foldable iPhone is out, but their shares will go down to sub %10, unless Android manufacturers find a way to sell foldables for less than $1000.
Super interested in this tech.
That price is crazy (if it launches above $2k) but I’m sure people will still buy it with absurd rationalizations. Hopefully not many though…I want to see a price drop.
And no, I haven’t seen a smart phone price drop.
That price is crazy (if it launches above $2k) but I’m sure people will still buy it with absurd rationalizations. Hopefully not many though…I want to see a price drop.
And no, I haven’t seen a smart phone price drop.
Meanwhile in the other article from today here on MacRumors:
So yeah… nobody knows yet what the definitive size will be like.
I think it’s going to have the aspect ratio of an iPad Mini when opened and a weird aspect ratio when closed, something like the Huawei Pura X:
So actually more like a wide and large flip phone instead of a book foldable like the Z Fold.
2400 for 256g? Then maybe add AppleCare. Yikes. Trade in? Might not offer like avp.
still held back by ios. It only makes sense if you don't have an ipad already. Even then the price diff is too great.
I wish Apple would charge way more for niche products like this and give us a break on, I don't know, RAM for our Mac.
I don’t see 22% of a niche market amounting to much, but as long as Apple’s not losing money on it maybe its R&D will produce innovations that can be used elsewhere.
A v1 tech demo indeed is likely ultimately useless - - in the short term. I too find it's current utility not quite enough for me to purchase one; but close. If Apple would just make all the Apple apps work with AVP I would buy one, because the tech utility is already very high. But Apple has shortchanged the AVP by not even investing in making its own software capable of enterprise-critical work.
Unit sales in the millions of $2k+ devices should not be considered niche, not amounting to much.
I have no doubt people will buy the "Fold"... But, in what volume? Will Fold buyers walk side-by-side? Or will they ride single file to hide their numbers?
but AVP is something to care about. it's an interesting product. phones are boring now and folding phones are boring fragile and overpriced.
If it doesn’t support 5k with Dolby Atmos for videos everyone will complain.
Lol I wasn’t interested in buying the Vision Pro but I was still excited for it to be released; not so with the folding iPhone. I just don’t think foldables are useful.