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The thing that's concerning me is that they're asking for a bluetooth iPod - that'd be a stupid idea!! SOOOOOOOOO DAMN SLOW! bluetooth runs at, what, 10mbit/s? it'd take several hours to copy over a decent sized collection - harldy comparable to the firewire/USB2 they use at present. bluetooth iPod is a stupid idea.
 
i thikn it would be an OK idea to put BT in the iPods because some people just want to sync calanders adress books and maybe text notes or whatever. not for music though.
 
Re: Re: Re: Apple and Device Interfaces

Originally posted by mproud
...But you're losing focus. I'm talking about consumer products....

Ahh. I see, sorry about that.

I understand your point. I just got side tracked by "...You will not see Apple put Aqua on another device, or anything that even REMOTELY looks like Aqua..."

In looking at the interface of the credit card machine (for lack of better description), I think that they can easily put an Aqua style interface onto a consumer device without losing sight of the device's purpose. As long as they keep it to the point of the device and put in their wonderful ease-of-use style, it is very possible.

MProud, we'll have to agree to disagree on the consumer interface.

The interface for the iPod was not written by Apple, but it is being built for Apple and you won't see it on other MP3 devices for a short time to come because of the agreement that they signed with Apple. I think it was a two year deal... or something like that.

Take care,
Quark
 
iPhone thinking

Ever think that apples MPEG-4 from Quicktime 6.2 which can create cell phone content is at the heart of all this?
 
I got iCreate and it's a really nice mag. They are obviously complete mac-heads - they have a section called 'iWant' featuring the 17"PB. They even have a gratuitous 'iCandy' section with pics of macs . It's £6 a go (which is $10) but that's about the same as the other mags here and this one is really high quality and packed with info...It has only 12 pages of ads in a 131 page magazine. The printing standard is also really high on good paper.... Can you tell I'm impressed?

P.S. Let me say it one more time - the phone is a mock-up.
 
Re: Apple and Device Interfaces

Originally posted by mproud
What people seem forget when trying to make up a pretend Apple device is that they mock the Aqua GUI way too much.

Apple is very picky - a purist and total control freak, as evidenced by its return from computer licensing, its continual abandonment of old technology and adoption of new ones, Apple Stores, and leaving of MWNY. They want to control every aspect and make the Macintosh a truly unique and rich experience.

So a quick Q and A:
Apple will not rip off the Aqua scheme for any smaller devices because it would:

a) Probably not emulate every aspect of the OS on the new device

b) Not clearly identify the differences between the two devices

c) Confuse users in the experience

d) Distract users in the original purpose and context of the device


And the answer is...

All of the above!

Apple will not take something they already have and apply it to a completely different project to be done way poorly. Apple is not that kind of company.

You will not see Apple put Aqua on another device, or anything that even REMOTELY looks like Aqua unless Apple first decides Aqua is dead on Mac OS X, and even then, Apple will probably find some better thing to do by that point.


However, one thing Apple may copy (as they currently do) is the general style of the product (i.e. the white/opaqueness of the iMac attributed to the iPod). This gives the device a nice welcome and family feel to existing products of these qualities, and calls out hey, I work with other things that look like me! So consumers will be able to (hopefully) associate quality products by their style, and take comfort in their synthesis.

THIS is what Apple is.


* Copy hardware style? Probably.
* Copy the user interface? Hell no.

Apple has made a limited Aqua interface for its credit card machines in the Apple retail stores.
 
OT: AppleStore Credit Card Point of Sale

Originally posted by Quark
In looking at the interface of the credit card machine (for lack of better description), I think that they can easily put an Aqua style interface onto a consumer device without losing sight of the device's purpose. As long as they keep it to the point of the device and put in their wonderful ease-of-use style, it is very possible.

A little bit off-topic. Doesn't the interface of their point of sale machine drive you nuts? It bothers me that the submit button is blue (like that is a default option???), doesn't pulse and gives no visual feedback when you hit it. I keep thinking "Aqua but not quite...". Also, on one occasion the LaserPrinter on the front wasn't working and it took about five minutes for them to print out a receipt (in the back).

Re: iPod designed by someone else. I think you are referring to this article. According to the article, the reference platform (basic hardware such as the CPU, encoder/decoder, etc) was not Apple's. However the packaging, interface (wheel), integration, and the user interface was Apple's doing. I assume they'll be taking it with them if they don't resign a deal with PortalPlayer.

It was an amazing compromise to get the product out the door cheap enough and quick enough without sacrificing quality. Definitely not the Apple of the early 90's. That's important because relative to their competition, they have much less money to spend on R&D now.

I suspect that this "design chain" article is why people like Michael Dell think they can put out a knock-off and undercut Apple's marketshare. They just might, but there were walkmen after the Walkman and discmen after the Discman, and our mindshare is still with Sony a quarter century (or decade) later.

Take care,
 
iPhone and iCreate

I found iCreate in my local newsagents and swithered about the cover price £6.00, but the quality, layout and lack of ads convinced me to give issue one a go. It looks a promising magazine.

The iPhone ad at the back had me going for a moment, but the small print does explain - very witty and well accomplished.
 
It's a stupid magazine, I'm not sure they even ussing or know what mac is all about, the 17"PB they call Titanium, and there are a LOT of stupid comments on mac. this issue was my first and last!
 
i hope your not gonna read that magazine again just because of the powerbook thing.:rolleyes:
can you give some examples of the stupid comments?
 
It seems strange that everyone the makes an iPhone or an iTablet they always put an OS X GUI on (DOck, menu bar, etc.) when, from a design POV, it would just not work.

Apple would re-design it (make a new OS entirely) for it to really work on a PDA or phone.
 
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