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I guess I can see such a device retailing between $200-$250; If it were cheaper then even better.
 
does rotary dialing matter that much once you have a contact list uploaded from yr isync or yr old phone?
 
I think Apple needs to stop focusing on trying to publicize the iPhone and start working on updating it's long overdue products. Seriously, like Apple isn't a cell phone company. They make computers and music players. Sorry, it just bugs me about the iPhone because that's the only thing you hear about today. Apple is losing its touch.

Hear, hear! I hope we are both proven completely and utterly wrong with insanely great products rolled out between now and the end of the year. At the moment, however, I agree whole-heartedly with Caitlyn. The hype introduced at MWSF ( . . . . just the beginning) is started to ring a bit hollow.
 
Here's my idea for the iPhone nano FWIW. Take the current iPhone hardware and subtract EDGE and Wi-Fi, and make it a similar but smaller and thinner form factor with a 2.5" screen instead of the 3.5" on the current iPhone.

Then apps wise, take the group on the current iPhone and subtract YouTube, Stocks, Maps, Weather, Notes, Mail and Safari. Everything else is left basically the same as the current iPhone including the Multitouch user interface.
 
Sorry, never happen for a lot of reasons.
Apple is not going back to the click wheel.
Apple will want one full holiday season behind it before it introduces a lower price iPhone.
 
While not likely, this still could work. However, I was thinking more along the lines of this:

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Although, I'm not sure where the 0, #, and * would go. Texting would follow conventional cell phone texting (2 = ABC, etc). No room or need for a virtual qwerty keyboard.

A nano touchscreen can't be much smaller than the current iPhones because people's fingers are simply fat. The iPod scroll wheel is actually really nice, and really simple. I would say it's more intuitive than the iPhone touchscreen...

Added backlighting and more touch smarts to a scroll wheel could make the above concept work.
 
I imagine that the non-screen area of such a device would be a touchpad.

In certain modes you would use it like a clickwheel, and it would have faint grooves on it for tactile reasons.

In other modes it would act like a square touchpad where tapping in certain areas will select that number / letter (letters will be like on most phones, three or four per number).

Well, it's one possibility that seems fairly cheap to implement.

The clickwheel with numbers around it is reasonable, but I think that texting will be awkward with this mechanism - non-standard, but not better either. Given that texting is the primary feature on a mobile phone aimed at the under 25s in the UK, and an iPhone "nano" would be aimed at these people too, they will go for something that will work well.

Personally I still believe that they'll cost-reduce the current iPhone in the future and drop the price to create a product at a cheaper price. That might be a year off, and have a slightly smaller screen and so on.
 
Rotary Dialing

The click-wheel enabled rotary dialing is a fun option to have on the phone, but it CANNOT be the only way of imputing date. There needs to be a click-wheel/trackpade hybrid imput method if this is to work. You HAVE to have quick-keys, regular push-dialing options and speeddial, etc., or the average user simply wont' like it. Better yet, why not a less-functional touch-screen interface?

One of the main complaints of the iPhone is that it's "too much." It's simply more device than a lot of people need, and it also costs more money.

A simpler iPhone Nano idea is brilliant and will probably outsell the regular iPhone. But it does need to be very user-friendly and easy for non-iPod/Mac people.
 
I've been nay saying the possibility of a 2nd iPhone on the boards with every rumor report.

This is still by far a confirmation but JP Morgan might want to rethink their decision to fire that Analyst soon :D

There are just too many unassociated sources pointing to the same rumor at this point .... IMO iPhone 2 is coming soon....


Sources: Apple set to grow iPhone family pre-holidays


I still don't believe it. And honestly, I think the entire concept is a bad one.

I think the people who bash the iPhone as something that sells simply because of the Apple name might actually be true when it comes to a Nano iPhone.

Time will tell.. but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Maybe I am the atypical iPhone user though. The iPod functionality is what I use least on the phone right now.
 
"the second iteration of the handset is presumed to marry iPod functionality with rudimentary cellular capabilities. More resource-heavy Internet browsing and e-mail capabilities are not expected of the device."

No internet nor email? Not interested.

Yeah that is my issue too. What is the draw of the phone. Combo simple cell phone and iPod? I guess I can see the potential market there. As long as it has text messaging, and ipod functionality, teenagers would probably like it a lot. The problem then comes to pricing. It would have to probably be $199 or less and eventually free with contracts and such.

For me the iPhone's appeal is in its Internet connectivity especially with safari and its wide screen. The other functionality as well. Take the big screen and the web browsing away, and the phone has a lot less value, to me.
 
Would it be accurate to assume that a new form factor phone would have to go through similar FCC approval as the original iPhone?
Yep.
and if so is there any way to check what has been submitted?
For approved devices, all you need is the manufacturer's three letter code to do a search. For pending applications, you need full numbers, so they're not generally available to the outside world.
 
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There will be no suprises in the word of cell phones. If it was going to trail by a few months, we would already know.

Even where the FCC agrees to keep confidential, they do not.
 
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There will be no suprises in the word of cell phones. If it was going to trail by a few months, we would already know.

Even where the FCC agrees to keep confidential, they do not.

To have a phone out by Christmas they would not have had to submit it to the FCC yet. Soon...but not yet, because much of the technology would be the same. My understanding it's that it's a bit faster to get a remodel/2nd phone approved than for a 1st Gen/new phone.

Either way, yes we will know a couple months in advance when Apple will release new iPhones.
 
Oh great, we will have to go through all that iPhone rumour and hype all over again.
 
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