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a) just bought a shuffle for running and snowboarding...its pretty damn small already...i dont think many people are saying...boy i wish this is smaller.

b) cut the lowest white macbook to 899...very doable...
cut base model alum macbook to 1199? not as sure about the benefits of doing that

c) new iphone model - for sure...question is when

d) netbook - ipod touch will be somehow used for this..however...not sure price would be cheap....proly something like 999 while i thought netbooks are suppose to be 400-600 bucks.
 
Unless they drop the rate plan for the iphone, I'm not buying. $85.00 for the lowest plan for 1 phone is beyond doable. I had 2 phones sharing the same minutes for $75.00.
 
Meanwhile, the analyst also believes that the iPod Shuffle may get even smaller and a cheaper version of the MacBook could also be introduced, possibly in the middle of the 1st quarter of 2009.
The iPod shuffle could get a bit smaller and thinner, we all know how much Apple likes "thin." Cheaper MacBook - maybe the $999 one will be price dropped again... or will there be a $999 version of the aluminum one...
 
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The iPhone Nano's main purpose would be market share and that will be driven by cost of the plan as much as cost of device. The nano would be a way to offer an apps capable phone for a far cheaper plan price. Safari, email, apps download over WiFi only like the touch, no 3G, GPS, google maps, or data plan beyond text messaging.
 
I am getting so sick and tired of NETBOOK this and NETBOOK that.

I've looked at some of the PC netbooks out there. I would never want to own one. Most of them have smaller screens than our 13" widescreen format. the keyboards are slightly smaller and the processors are crippled to the point that my iPhone is actually faster than them.

If you need to surf the internet and check email get an iPhone.
If you need to work on miniscule crap like Word/Excel and do the same old internet crap than get yourself the cheapest MacBook.

We do not need a Netbook in the MacBook family.

Your completely missing the point in every way, shape and form. The iPhone doesn't replace a netbook, sorry if you feel that way. The "cheapest" macbook? That's an oxymoron in of itself, the point is to have a very low cost, ultra portable solution. You don't get that with the macbook.
 
The smaller shuffle seems like just updating to update (or more likely forecast updates just to have something to say). I can't imagine any good reason to change the shuffle right now (design, that is, capacity upgrades are always welcome).

The cheaper MacBook I'm guessing isn't what it sounds like. Within the next year at least, and possibly sooner (though I have my doubts), we'll see the Aluminum MB's hit the $1099 mark or possibly the $999 mark, at which point the white plastic model will be discontinued permanently. Just need to get production up to speed and knock out some of the initial cost of the new manufacturing process.

I'm still skeptical on the iPhone nano too, for many of the reasons already listed by others, but I'm not denying it's possible.

jW
 
My wife uses my old, jailbroken 2G iPhone without the internet plan. I guess an iPhone nano could probably just be something like that -- basically an iPod with just the phone but without GPS or on-the-go internet (just Airport wireless). That would allow it to be smaller (less battery usage using just voice), cheaper (no GPS or 3G chips), and have a lower rate plan. It doesn't work for me, but my people like my wife would like it.
 
The iPhone Nano's main purpose would be market share and that will be driven by cost of the plan as much as cost of device. The nano would be a way to offer an apps capable phone for a far cheaper plan price. Safari, email, apps download over WiFi only like the touch, no 3G, GPS, google maps, or data plan beyond text messaging.

This would probably violate Apple's contract with AT&T, but it would be great if something like this was sold unlocked (no hacking necessary). It could do well with those of us that would like to keep our current lower-priced plan but have a phone made by Apple, even if the features are much more basic.
 
Berger said he doesn't expect the products to be ready in time for a rollout at the upcoming MacWorld expo next week.

these analysts are always right, right ?:rolleyes:
 
The cheaper macbook is the only thing I believe

The whitebooks that are being sold are overstock
 
Cheaper iPhone?

The iPhone is only $199 for the coolest phone on the market (at least that's what the [potential] customers things).

Every keeps saying "cheaper" for the 'nano' and the supposed (false) Walmart model. Is that what's keeping people away from the phone? If that's the case charge $99 for the phone and $4 more a month for a plan, people will jump on it. If that's the price.

What's keeping me from an iPhone? (I'm glad you asked)
AT&T. No tethering. No external keyboard (I have one for my Treo).
I'll probably get one as soon as they offer tethering.

Gary
 
Currently, the only thing blocking me from buying the iPhone is the expensive data plans. Data plans are suppose to protect you from huge $1000 bills from just loading one web page (50 cents per KILOBYTE!!!) . But I hardly use the web, and therefore the data plan is not seen as affordable for everyone.

I do not understand how people always say now that the iPhone is cheap, you will end up paying around 1800 bucks for an iPhone 3G with a 2 year contract all in total. That I still cannot afford, I don't think that Steve Jobs should have checked off more affordable during the iPhone 3G introduction

If Apple wants to have a share the mobile phone market, it must tackle the industry with AT LEAST 2 types of phones. Smartphones and basic phones. Yes, I think that the iPhone 3G maybe a little too big and it is in the smartphone category.

As I have said in previous threads, please stop talking about keyboard size or whatever, IF it comes out (After all these analyzes and little evidence I believe it might) don't start bitching about it and stuff, at least until you try it then you may start grumbling about it. Criticisms of a rumor sketch up model when thinking of it as the real thing makes you guys look foolish.
 
The cheaper macbook is the only thing I believe

The whitebooks that are being sold are overstock

I doubt that, because they updated the low end MacBook to have a superdrive when it previously had a combo drive. If it was just overstock, they wouldn't be updating it.
 
i really don't think apple will reduce prices on the aforementioned items. they are simply not that kind of company. they've built the apple brand up and want to keep it that way. i kind of do wonder about the iphone at wal-mart though, and etc...


i don't see a market for an iphone nano without a corresponding drop in voice/data plan price with at&t. people who wanted an iphone have it already. some might switch to an iphone nano if it was "better", but it doesn't seem like apple would do something like that right now.

if there was a netbook, it wouldn't be at other netbooks' prices. whether tablet form like bigger sized ipod touch or an actual netbook, it's going to be at a premium price, and it doesn't seem like the time economically to introduce something like that.
 
Cheaper iPhone?

The iPhone is only $199 for the coolest phone on the market (at least that's what the [potential] customers things).

Every keeps saying "cheaper" for the 'nano' and the supposed (false) Walmart model. Is that what's keeping people away from the phone? If that's the case charge $99 for the phone and $4 more a month for a plan, people will jump on it. If that's the price.

What's keeping me from an iPhone? (I'm glad you asked)
AT&T. No tethering. No external keyboard (I have one for my Treo).
I'll probably get one as soon as they offer tethering.

Gary
 
As stated before Im sure that the primary reason for people not being able to afford the iPhone is not the phone itself but being able to pay for the service every month which some people just will not do, if they cant afford the $200 model then Im sure they arent going to sign a plan with an extra $30 data plan on top of their monthly bill.

Has anything been said about the 17in Macbook Pro? I believe that we will see an upgrade or possibly doing away with it altogether sometime in the first quarter of 2009. The shuffle could get smaller but not by much if it still wants to remain some of its function. Definitely going to upgrade the Mac Mini and the iMacs and im sure that atleast the Mac Minis will be announced at Macworld hopefully with aluminum sides and the black glass top or a high gloss black plastic to match the current design direction.
 
if there was a netbook, it wouldn't be at other netbooks' prices. whether tablet form like bigger sized ipod touch or an actual netbook, it's going to be at a premium price, and it doesn't seem like the time economically to introduce something like that.

netbooks are so inexpensive because windows machines are generally cheaper, if you had a apple netbook at a relative price decrease it would seem like a inexpensive apple netbook because apple fans buy expensive laptops. if that makes any sense.
 
How much smaller can a shuffle get? Do they just want you to loose it so you will keep buying more? you still need to be able to press some buttons on the thing.

I so agree...kinda makes the rest of the article a little dubious.

This whole iPhone Nano thing is puzzling too. I cant see how they can make it smaller without major changes to the interface/software etc.
 
Not sure what a smaller "Nano" would bring to the iPhone market. Making the screen smaller just makes it more difficult to use and it might require software developers to create multiple versions (unless the iPhone's OS already has - or will have with the Nano's release - complete resolution independence for all graphic items, and not just text).

And with AT&T now selling 8GB 3G refurbs for $99, how much cheaper does the iPhone need to be before the pundits will consider it a "success"? I mean the thing is closing on how many millions of sales in six months? Sales, mind you, not just "shipments" to retailers where it sits in a back room collecting dust. ;)

And as for a cheaper notebook, I suppose if MacBook sales crater, they can reduce the price of the basic model.

firstly a nano would probably be more expensive

secondly if theres no market place for it then why are the fake ones selling well in Thailand
 
If Apple wants to have a share the mobile phone market, it must tackle the industry with AT LEAST 2 types of phones.

Who says they do?

No, seriously. I think they've made it clear that they want a big share of the smart-phone market. But who said they want a share of the rest? Anyone at Apple? I don't recall that.

All I've seen is people on message boards saying that "if they want a share of the overall cell phone market then they have to..." Well, who says? I don't think they WANT that. Do you? Can you explain why? No one has, to my knowledge. They say they SHOULD want it.

I don't think they do.
 
Don't Believe it

I don't know about this but I don't believe any of this except maybe the iPod Shuffle rumors. But I hardly believe that too because how can they shrink it more and why would they. Make that any smaller and people will be losing that thing no problem.

iPhone Nano: I don't believe these rumors. The only advantage of having a iPhone Nano would be that it would cost less. The thing is already small. Many phones out there can't do anything near what the iPhone can do yet those other ones are bigger. If they make the Nano then they would most likely have to make it slower. That would cause problems with apps that already need all the speed they can get out of the iPhone such as games and other intensive apps like that. So that wouldn't be too good because you'll be limited to the apps you can use. Also from the fake pictures I've seen the Nano is like an inch or less shorter. Thats not really a difference. I just plain don't believe this rumor and I'll be surprised if they do make this iPhone Nano.

iPod Shuffle: I barely believe this because the thing is already really small. How can they shrink it more and I don't see a reason to shrink it anyways. The only change to the Shuffle that I can see is a Capacity increase.

Smaller Macbook: There still is the White Macbook which cost $1000. So its a possibility but they have to drop the specs. I don't really see this being true. But its possible. But the iMac, Mac Pro, and Mac Mini(finally) I believe will be getting updates without a doubt. Also the 17" Macbook Pro will get the new case and hardware upgrades as well most likely.
 
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