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iPhone not at Macworld Expo San Francisco 2007?

aintnohalfstppn said:
this iphone had better show up.
i've been holding out on a new phone for awhile now.
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Me too. I am in no rush to buy a new phone, but my old Nokia is starting to crap out on me. I like the Nokia E62 but it's only Cingular ( I think)> I am very happy w/ T-Mobile, so I am sticking w/ them, but I do like the T-Moblie Dash. Thing is, I would really like a Mac-friendly smart phone (my current Nokia is).
 
KindredMAC said:
Come on folks, how long have we been hearing about the "iPhone"??? Too long for anything to be considered concrete. Why would Apple come into the cell phone market? There are no glaring problems with the market like there was with the mp3 market in 2000-2001. Companies that have tried to be super innovative with their phones have had their products end up like the Cube. Anyone remember NGAGE???? That was a Nokia product.

If Nokia couldn't make something work in their own industry what does Apple really think they can bring to the table? The ONLY thing that could work is an iChat feature where you can also connect to AIM and iChat accounts on home computers through the phone.
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the single biggest, and probably worst offender of glaring deficiencies in the cell phone market is the user interface. no current phone has a good ui, and having worked on a couple of future concepts for sony and hp there's nothing in the pipeline from either of those two.

as for why would apple want to be in the market? simple fact is phones and music players are going to converge for a lot of people -- not all, but a lot. apple needs an entrant in to that market to prevent lost sales.

the ngauge was a failure not because it was from nokia, but because it was a sprawling mess of a device with an absurd product design (really talking in to the side of the phone WTF?!), bad games (which is bad for a gaming device) and a muddled marketing message.

on a purely subjective level, i find 90% of mobile phones' industrial design to be very poor. the iphone i would expect to be second to none in terms of its ID.
 
dashiel said:
the single biggest, and probably worst offender of glaring deficiencies in the cell phone market is the user interface. no current phone has a good ui, and having worked on a couple of future concepts for sony and hp there's nothing in the pipeline from either of those two.

as for why would apple want to be in the market? simple fact is phones and music players are going to converge for a lot of people -- not all, but a lot. apple needs an entrant in to that market to prevent lost sales.

the ngauge was a failure not because it was from nokia, but because it was a sprawling mess of a device with an absurd product design (really talking in to the side of the phone WTF?!), bad games (which is bad for a gaming device) and a muddled marketing message.

on a purely subjective level, i find 90% of mobile phones' industrial design to be very poor. the iphone i would expect to be second to none in terms of its ID.
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that's the reason for all you doubters - well said.
 
Well my iPod 4G just died, I need that iPhone with PDA and music in one. Not that interested in it's video phone capabilites.
 
Instead of Apple, we should really smack those analysts real good! We could guess the weather of 2009 just as accurately as they can predict the release of the iPhone. :rolleyes:
 
iPhone, iPod Video, iTV...and one more thing??
STOP teasing us and freaking release the products so I don't have to hold onto all the "iCraps" I am using right now.
 
shunpike said:
u do realise that it won't go above 8gb max memory


JUST SEEN I AM NOW A MACRUMORS MEMBER! HOORAY
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No problem, I don't have that much music, but I do listen to several podcast a day in the car. So 8 gig is plenty. You probably don't remember but the first PC had a 5 meg hard disk and the first Apple I remember used a floppy.

Even 4 gig may do for music, but need a little more for calendars, and other stuff.
 
Maestro64 said:
My perdiction is that if this is a real product, Steve will show off something in January to get everyone excited and over a period of 6 months roll the product out to the service providers. In the cell phone industry phones are always pre anounced to build demand then over time those phones come available at the provider stores. There is no way apple can coordinated all the providers to offer the phone at the same time. They have promotions already set up with other manufactures that they must let run the course.
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I second that!

Maestro64 said:
Not to say that you will not be able to pull your SIM card from you current phone and plug it into a nice new white iphone when they are available. but providers these days can block any phone from working on their network if they do not recognize the model.
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I believe if the phone is GSM, it can not be blocked, but I am not entirely sure.

Maestro64 said:
With a risk as big as this and having to deal with all the providers to make it work I doublt apple will build millions of them and have the retail channel full when they make the announcement. I bet it rolls out slowly.
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Apple will most likely launch a GSM model. GSM has the biggest potential worldwide, just because Verizon uses crappy CDMA doesn´t mean Apple will cripple its product. If the product is well received, it will give Apple power over Verizon so the iPhone is launched with all its features (Verizon is known for crippling phones features) in CDMA. We will see what happens...
 
I'm going to make a bold statement (in boldface, no less). You know why we won't see the iPhone at MWSF in 2007?

BECAUSE IT DOESN'T ****ING EXIST.

Talk amongst yourselves. ;)
 
princealfie said:
Okay, but what about the Samsung Blackjack. Isn't that a precursor to the iPhone?
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"Quad-band GSM, with 64mb RAM and 128mb ROM plus microSD memory slot, the BlackJack manages to pack Bluetooth v2.0, a 1.3-megapixel camera, speakerphone, support for push email and UMTS/HSDPA/EDGE/GPRS data connectivity into a 0.46-inch thick candybar weighing a mere 3.5 ounces. The 1,200 mAh battery promises up to 5.5 hours talk-time or eleven days standby, and since it runs Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone OS you can take advantage of all the productivity apps, IM clients and mobile internet that come loaded as standard. "

Add 4-8 Gb flash memory, Wi-Fi/Wi-Max compatibility, music playback through iTunes, remove Windows Mobile 5.0, add Mac OS Mobile (In case that will be the name of the new iPhone OS), make it white and we might have the iPhone!
 
Does anyone know for sure If this thing is going to have a Mac OS? I am really interested in this phone but if it doesn't have cool software then I may be better off just getting an iPod and a phone.
 
this thread is an anti rumor. well atleast between the "iphone at MWSF" and the "iPhone not at MWSF" we have our bases covered.:D
 
TheAnswer said:
It would be great if Steve just took a phone call on the iPhone and didn't say anything about it, just used it and put it back in his jeans. That would create some buzz.
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"And there's one more thing..." BRINGG! "Oh, excuse me."

Steve takes a phone from his pocket, holds it up in front of his face and has a brief video iChat with one of the other Apple Execs. Puts phone away.

"Right, where was I..."
 
I <3 an iPhone...but REALLY WANT IT SOON PLEASE!

My razr works about 1/4 of the time, so now I am using a freebie nokia phone until I think it's time to invest in a new one. The Dolce and Gabbana Razr v3i looks very nice but I WANT TO HOLD OUT FOR THE iPHONE. PLEASE, PLEASE, release it sometime soon!!
 
Synaptics Designed Touchpad with integrated scrollwheel

I have not seen the iphone though I have seen the touchpad designed by Synaptics. All I can say is that the scroll-wheel will rest right on-top of the number pad. There will be no need to slide or flip back and forth. If you want to dial you just press on the keys and you will dial. If you want to scroll through music your fingers just scroll on-top of the numbers(use almost identical pressure as current ipods). Synaptics has done a great job with this. When you look down on the touchpad you can see the outline of the scroll wheel. The scroll-wheel is integrated into the phone pad its a perfect simplistic design, no need for all this craziness everyone is designing into these mockups. A friend of mine in Russia who works for Pantech described this.
 
mrthieme said:
I am one of the sorry souls with a Verizon raped Razr, so I know what cell phone hatred is about. I love the prospect of an Apple phone that works well and looks good doing it, but I can't shake the feeling that cell service predators, I mean providers, will do everything in their power to ruin the user experience. I hope I'm wrong.
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They won't be doing this in the UK. I don't get the US phone market at all. So backwards.
 
koobcamuk said:
They won't be doing this in the UK. I don't get the US phone market at all. So backwards.
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I don't get it either, and I'm living here.

My understanding is that phones are not subsidized by the carriers in the UK so they cost more, but can swap service, and are not crippled . Is that correct? I would go for that in a minute.

I can't tell you how angry I was when I found my new Razr had been deliberately crippled by Verizon to force me to sign up for more monthly payments. So now I have a bluetooth capable device with no bluetooth capabilities.

I would rather see more of a push into multimedia devices (itv deluxe) in the living room at Macworld. There is a whole range of hardware they can sell there.
 
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