So, I was set to get an IPod Touch but given the recent screen issues, and the stripped down software, a refurb IPhone (activated via hack but no phone service) seems like a much better way to go. .. Pros Better screen Speaker (great for kids watching a vid) Apps (mail, maps, notes, weather, etc. . Bluetooth Camera Can always be turned into a phone $50 cheaper Cons 8GB vs 16GB This seem like a no-brainer?! Adam EDIT - sorry guys, didn't see the very similar thread.