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I think the BIG question here is, how on earth Android which has 70% smartphone marketshare in the world only represented by Samsung at Top 5? How on earth iPhone which has only 18% marketshare in the world rank 1, 2, 4 and 5?

The next time Android users want to use marketshare to point their superiority, let them knows their stupidity.


Large numbers may not use flikr. Not sure what the main liked application is for Asians (live in Japan, get my visits to places like South Korea in once in while) is to upload their pics. If they don't like flikr and use some other thing we can see a numbers drop right there. Especially if South Korea....that has ben called samsung's turf. Since well...a Korean company and based on casual observation, yeah....you can't spit 5 in a random direction and not hit a samsung something.

Some credibility to the generalization may be seen in its a country where apple CBA to put even one apple store there. Lost cause, don't care or just haven;t got around to it we can debate conspiracy/tin foil hat style lol. Based on seeing 2 resellers chains busy as hell.....I'd say the market is there and an apple store would do well. At least in in the shopping districts of Seoul to start.



Or they may not even do website uploads. Going back to regional tastes again, one of the stronger contenders for IM/chat mobile wise is call line in my part fop the world . Wife and I use it like many in japan do. She doesn't need to post pics to sites. She sends them in the line app to whoever. Has groups upon groups of people in hers lists. One line message...many receivers.

Or they may be like me and like their tinfoil to use a phrase . I don't do social media and other internet sharing stuff like it much. If I think you need to see my pics....I will get them to you in a targeted way somehow.
 
if the most popular phone gets carried round, the the camera in the phone would always be popular....

Now, we'll see more and more people taking iPhone shots because of this "said"

You forgot the iPhone 6 :)
 
i think flickr has some bigger issues...
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Flickr is for more serious photography as opposed to social media stuff on those other sites. It's not a problem, it is simply an intended usage differentiation. So for judging use by those taking creative and artistic photographs as opposed to selfies etc. it is a very good way to measure usage..
 
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Flickr is for more serious photography as opposed to social media stuff on those other sites. It's not a problem, it is simply an intended usage differentiation. So for judging use by those taking creative and artistic photographs as opposed to selfies etc. it is a very good way to measure usage..


Precisely. When I post photos to Instagram/twitter/facebook/whatever, I'm doing it as a quick way of sharing something with friends & family. When I take my Canon & lenses out & about when I'm on holiday, at rugby games, on day trips out into the countryside etc, I'm doing it to take photos as part of my hobby of photography. Those are what I share on Flickr. It's very rare (if ever) that I'll post something on Flickr that I've taken on my phone.

Yes, having a camera in my phone is handy for wanting to capture something on the spur of the moment, but it comes nowhere near the performance of my DSLR.
 
it is pretty much a no brainer......they are using the info that cameral uploads when it sends to FLICKR......no real chance of messing that up.

https://www.flickr.com/cameras

Technically, it's easy to mess up. I don't post straight to flickr anymore—I haven't since instagram was introduced. And for a long time I was using iPhone only. Now my feed is a mix of shots from iPhone and my 5D mk III using an Eye-fi. While the file retains EXIF when it's imported to my phone, it appears that instagram strips most of it when it uploads to flickr. So there's a lot of stuff on my feed that flickr has no idea what it is. So the numbers are, at the very least, inaccurate.
 
yep. There is people here that really HATE Apple.
Good for them. The real question is: why are they here ?


Why did you think that ?


I actually don't apple. I hate bad use of stats/data analysis. I actually like how far its cameras in phone/pad have come along.
But....Apple could have half as good a camera in its devices and this would come out the same way. Apple is small and light. As mentioned by others...we go to our phones when the thrill of carrying the kit around all day not that thrilling.
this is clearly something the data needs to factor in. Maybe they could have did a survey to ask why we use the gear we do. gives some backdrop. As seems to be a recurring theme here these days (IPP threads lol)....we all have different needs.

Also we don't know shooting and post procession habits of the submitters. With that nifty flikr app we may have a case of padding numbers by bulk submissions. Posters may not even be that picky. Some DSLR's users are. I have seen passable shots chimping on my body lcd that just started losing that passable state when on the rMBP connected to the t-bolt display. Things change for some dslr shooters when we see the big picture (not sure if pun intended tbh). Its not look at my work on the internet worthy sometimes.

Also not all DSLR use is recorded on flikr or any site. Wedding shooters jump to mind right away. they can shoot 200 shots (real easily, I am lowballing this tbh), select say 100 that they deem good (uncle joe can take not so great iPhone pics....its uncle joe, you aren't paying him to produce quality) and from that the bride and groom choose only a few really.

Wedding shooters don't post their work on flikr (or any public site). Mainly because they don't want said bride and groom copying the pic for free lol. Why you have the sit down with them after the big day. Those files don't leave that office unless paid for. Or they use very special ordering sites where those pics are locked down nice and tight. Want a print...swing on by and they can reopen that catalogue and order as much as you want.


Again...I love the cameras by apple. Happy its came out number one. But it has reasons beyond apples skill at design tbh. Better analysis would have been nice here is all.
 
Flickr has changed quite a bit over the years. I definitely like the ability to host (essentially) as many photos I would like with 1TB free and present them in an album form for clients or personal/family use. It also integrates very nicely into Wordpress, and taking as many photos as I do, this is pretty seamless.
 
I actually don't apple. I hate bad use of stats/data analysis. I actually like how far its cameras in phone/pad have come along.
But....Apple could have half as good a camera in its devices and this would come out the same way. Apple is small and light. As mentioned by others...we go to our phones when the thrill of carrying the kit around all day not that thrilling.
this is clearly something the data needs to factor in. Maybe they could have did a survey to ask why we use the gear we do. gives some backdrop. As seems to be a recurring theme here these days (IPP threads lol)....we all have different needs.

Also we don't know shooting and post procession habits of the submitters. With that nifty flikr app we may have a case of padding numbers by bulk submissions. Posters may not even be that picky. Some DSLR's users are. I have seen passable shots chimping on my body lcd that just started losing that passable state when on the rMBP connected to the t-bolt display. Things change for some dslr shooters when we see the big picture (not sure if pun intended tbh). Its not look at my work on the internet worthy sometimes.

Also not all DSLR use is recorded on flikr or any site. Wedding shooters jump to mind right away. they can shoot 200 shots (real easily, I am lowballing this tbh), select say 100 that they deem good (uncle joe can take not so great iPhone pics....its uncle joe, you aren't paying him to produce quality) and from that the bride and groom choose only a few really.

Wedding shooters don't post their work on flikr (or any public site). Mainly because they don't want said bride and groom copying the pic for free lol. Why you have the sit down with them after the big day. Those files don't leave that office unless paid for. Or they use very special ordering sites where those pics are locked down nice and tight. Want a print...swing on by and they can reopen that catalogue and order as much as you want.


Again...I love the cameras by apple. Happy its came out number one. But it has reasons beyond apples skill at design tbh. Better analysis would have been nice here is all.

You are taking it almost personally .... this news is just about Flickr (it is in the title).
The news didn't say "iPhone is the most popular camera in the world".
It's just about Flickr....
 
Also not all DSLR use is recorded on flikr or any site. Wedding shooters jump to mind right away. they can shoot 200 shots (real easily, I am lowballing this tbh), select say 100 that they deem good (uncle joe can take not so great iPhone pics....its uncle joe, you aren't paying him to produce quality) and from that the bride and groom choose only a few really.

You can add sports photographers (even amateur ones) to that list too. In an 80 minute rugby game, I can *easily* take in the region of 500 to 600 shots, even from where I sit on the side (around the 10M line for any rugby-knowledgeable folks!).
 
As one who shoots with a DSLR I also admittedly have far more iPhone pictures than any, as the initial reply states the best camera is the one you have on you. However, I only put my DSLR photos on Flikr and use iCloud for my iPhone pics.
 
Flickr has published a 2015 Year in Review that again crowns the iPhone as the most popular camera, used for 42% of photos uploaded, based on EXIF data analysis. iPhones finished ahead of the Canon EOS, used for 27% of uploaded photos, and the Nikon D, used for 16% of uploaded photos.

These stats only show that owners of certain devices like to upload a lot of pictures. (I have friends who stream everything they take to Flickr, because they can. Most are junk photos.)

So one big missing piece of data is how many DIFFERENT users there are of each device.

For example, did a hundred million different iPhone users upload 42% of the photos, or one million? Did ten thousand Canon EOS owners upload 27%, or one thousand?

Likewise, are they all differently composed photos? Or just dumps of whatever was taken, junk and all?
 
These stats only show that owners of certain devices like to upload a lot of pictures. (I have friends who stream everything they take to Flickr, because they can. Most are junk photos.)

So one big missing piece of data is how many DIFFERENT users there are of each device.

For example, did a hundred million different iPhone users upload 42% of the photos, or one million? Did ten thousand Canon EOS owners upload 27%, or one thousand?

Likewise, are they all differently composed photos? Or just dumps of whatever was taken, junk and all?


This really. Not even caring about the apple angle, as this a no brainer...even with 1000's in camera gear I will admit iphone is most used (as I don't always carry the heavier gear) day at the park with the family I am playing with my son. My wife has no desire to use my Nikon gear. And I tbh have no desire to teach her to use the gear since I tend to do lots of customizations with menu's and button functions. I don't like where Nikon sticks a button for a feature...I am not scared to reroute that function to one I do like lol.

so any shots that day are iphone based. Older man chasing after an active 6 year old....yeah, the d700 and now d750 stays home lol. Don't need that hanging around the neck all day.


I'd like gear breakdowns. What is popular for canon and Nikon? And sony and others even though they didn't make the top 3 it seems in the screen shot.

Exif will have shot info iirc flikr picks up on, or a thorough poster will detail the gear info.



give us gear tag dumps ranked and sorted as supplementary data and I would have not be so critical of this.. Only 4000 used people used say Nikon to pull a number out of thin air...for study to be useful I'd like to know what Nikon body (and lens if possible) is being used.

It also add some balance to this. 35mm range I will say apple is a strong contender. Able one at that...in certain ranges its a great system really. Its going to shine here. Apple is obviously going to fail at say 200mm range. Its not doing it, not good or bad...it just is. What is being used there though? This could have told us that to be more useful.
 
iPhones are NOT the best camera out there...

They are the best-most-convenient camera out there, hands down.

If you aren't going to lug the best around every moment, the iPhone does an excellent job.
Hands down? Really.. they aren't even as good as new the galaxy s6 Range. . So how do you come to this conclusion..
 
I think the BIG question here is, how on earth Android which has 70% smartphone marketshare in the world only represented by Samsung at Top 5? How on earth iPhone which has only 18% marketshare in the world rank 1, 2, 4 and 5?

The next time Android users want to use marketshare to point their superiority, let them knows their stupidity.

Uh, using flickr to show superiority is not "let them knows (sic) their stupidity"?

Dumb to use this as an example. I just got rid of my iphone and flickr was one of the places set for auto upload. I have a dslr and do not upload any to flickr, I use smugmug. Anyone trumpeting that this means anything is fooling themselves.

Likewise, are they all differently composed photos? Or just dumps of whatever was taken, junk and all?

This, how many phones are set to auto upload all photos vs dslr's that auto upload. I don't even upload dslr pictures to flickr, most probably don't. When I used to hang out at dpreview flickr wasn't even a flicker, it was smugmug and other places similar.

Also not all DSLR use is recorded on flikr or any site. Wedding shooters jump to mind right away. they can shoot 200 shots (real easily, I am lowballing this tbh), select say 100 that they deem good (uncle joe can take not so great iPhone pics....its uncle joe, you aren't paying him to produce quality) and from that the bride and groom choose only a few really.

I used to shoot spanish language weddings, baptisms, quienceaneras and pretty much anything every weekend (had a weektime job) and typically shot over 500 photos with a dslr. Not a single one was ever uploaded to flickr. Period. It's ridiculous to take this as meaning anything except people with phones set their phone to auto upload to flickr because it's free.

It could also be a result of the iPhone hardware having small storage capacity (on the lower, more affordable models) and iCloud only providing 5GB free cloud based storage. Compared to other phones and Flickr's large amount of free storage...this to me is not surprising

Great point and very obvious. Apple sells a lot of 16gb devices and the only to go is to upload automatically to a free storage place. I had a 16gb and uploaded automatically to 3 places. I now have a moto x pure (better camera than the iphone had) with removable storage and only upload to amazon unlimited as it's good photo storage plus with removable storage I do not need to upload as much. A lot of android devices have removable storage.

Flickr only has something like 2% of the cloud picture storage, this only shows that more people with iphones NEED the storage and about the only thing keeping flickr afloat. Pictures I care about, my dslr pictures, go to smugmug. Flickr was for automatic junk upload.
 
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it is pretty much a no brainer......they are using the info that cameral uploads when it sends to FLICKR......no real chance of messing that up.

Actually no. By using EXIF data they have messed it up.

There are lots of people no doubt like me who strip EXIF data from the 10s of thousands of images they upload BEFORE they upload them to flickr.

Therefore, FLICKR statistics based on EXIF are worthless.
 
Uh, using flickr to show superiority is not "let them knows (sic) their stupidity"?

Dumb to use this as an example. I just got rid of my iphone and flickr was one of the places set for auto upload. I have a dslr and do not upload any to flickr, I use smugmug. Anyone trumpeting that this means anything is fooling themselves.

iPhone never set Flickr as auto-upload, it is there but you need to do set it manually. I have never used Flickr myself, that's why I know ;) Re-read my post, I've never mentioned using Flickr to show superiority, I merely commented how useless is "marketshare". Android users love to brag that their marketshare makes Android a better phone. How laughable.
 
iPhone never set Flickr as auto-upload, it is there but you need to do set it manually. I have never used Flickr myself, that's why I know ;) Re-read my post, I've never mentioned using Flickr to show superiority, I merely commented how useless is "marketshare". Android users love to brag that their marketshare makes Android a better phone. How laughable.

You "merely" insinuated that this shows superiority more than market share. How laughable.

I never said the iphone auto uploaded to flickr, it's the app as opposed to real phones that do not upload to flickr. This means absolutely nothing. There is plenty of stupidity on both sides.

Actually no. By using EXIF data they have messed it up.

There are lots of people no doubt like me who strip EXIF data from the 10s of thousands of images they upload BEFORE they upload them to flickr.

Therefore, FLICKR statistics based on EXIF are worthless.

Exactly and people will be less likely to strip exif from smartphone auto uploads of junk photos.
 
You "merely" insinuated that this shows superiority more than market share. How laughable.

I never said the iphone auto uploaded to flickr, it's the app as opposed to real phones that do not upload to flickr. This means absolutely nothing. There is plenty of stupidity on both sides.

Putting "words on my mouth" does not make it less laughable. Language is not that complicated. Again, I have never insinuated that this shows superiority more than market share, though the opposite is true, I did insinuated that the market share shows false superiority than this.

I just got rid of my iphone and flickr was one of the places set for auto upload.

iPhone only auto upload to their own photo library.
 
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