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I’m not poor, and I’m not a Millenial either. I’m just tired of Apple’s shift of late to try to create a higher priced tier by dumbing down pre-existing good devices.

eg. The 8 Plus has a super high pixel density screen and 2X lens. The XR effectively replaces it in the pricing tiers but is missing both those features, because they made those features exclusive to the much, much higher priced OLED models.

Furthermore, the iPad 2017 removed features that were present in the iPad Air 2 because they made those features exclusive to the iPad Pro line.

The fact that many of the so-called high end features already were present in lower priced Apple products and then subsequently removed indicates Apple is not pricing just due to tech cost but for marketing reasons, because they thought they could get away with it. Fortunately, at least in some markets, consumers hit their breaking point and stopped buying.

Spot on. I have a 8+, too and don't see myself downgrading to a XR anytime soon. Personally I found the 8+ already overpriced compared to my late 6s+, which died during a snorkeling trip. The 8+ is in essence the same phone with some camera and processor improvements which are to be expected.

The XR is a lousy offering with a inferior screen and some other non essential camera gimmicks. The other phones like XS are just stupidly expensive for what they are.

I am constantly shaking my head visiting this website looking at those goons cheering for / justifying a North of 1000 USD phone.
 
Yes, if apple didnt charge 1500 for a phone, you could have it subsidized for 200.

The "subsidized" price was a lie.

The $200 price was a lie.

People thought the phone only cost $200 because that's what was listed on the sticker. But you were actually paying the remainder of the full price of the phone over the next 24 months.

And it got worse if you kept the phone longer... because you were still paying for it after the 24 months.

I believe the "subsidization" of phones was one of the greatest scams in recent history. :)

Now... you can go off and complain that Apple's iPhone prices have gotten too high. That's your prerogative.

But again... I was talking about the people who still believe phones were $200, $100 and Free.

Those were lies. :p
 
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Spot on. I have a 8+, too and don't see myself downgrading to a XR anytime soon. Personally I found the 8+ already overpriced compared to my late 6s+, which died during a snorkeling trip. The 8+ is in essence the same phone with some camera and processor improvements which are to be expected.

The XR is a lousy offering with a inferior screen and some other non essential camera gimmicks. The other phones like XS are just stupidly expensive for what they are.

I am constantly shaking my head visiting this website looking at those goons cheering for / justifying a North of 1000 USD phone.
So get a Samsung for the same price.

Phones are better than ever. This XS Max is a better device than the Plus models, no question. It costs more.
 
So get a Samsung for the same price.

Phones are better than ever. This XS Max is a better device than the Plus models, no question. It costs more.

As a long time Apple user, I feel so sad that it's exactly people like you and other well known busy-body Apple defenders who are justifying the destruction of the values of once was a great brand.

"Go and get a Samsung". Right. I don't need you telling me what phone I should get. Ah, what the heck. Ignoring you from now on
 
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As a long time Apple user, I feel so sad that it's exactly people like you and other well known busy-body Apple defenders who are justifying the destruction of the values of once was a great brand.

"Go and get a Samsung". Right. I don't need you telling me what phone I should get. Ah, what the heck. Ignoring you from now on
If you’re a long time user, you understand the X models are a new line of phones, not comparable to the old Plus models. The Xr has many of the XS features and a far better camera than any Plus model, despite having a single lens.
 
Yes he said the declining sale could be partially attributed to the price point, but also that most of the decline happened in China, so 2 + 2 still equals 4.


You know not all brands sales are decreasing in China right? Yes, there is a trend for the less competitive products but why would the Chinese market love apple’s price points when there are so many alternatives. You know that android has a very strong market share in china right?
 
As a long time Apple user, I feel so sad that it's exactly people like you and other well known busy-body Apple defenders who are justifying the destruction of the values of once was a great brand.

"Go and get a Samsung". Right. I don't need you telling me what phone I should get. Ah, what the heck. Ignoring you from now on
Exactly my sentiment.

The damn rabid white knights/fanbois are the worse thing to ever happen to apple.

Hell, I would say, because of their sickness, apple is doing the crap they are doing now, since they know that the rabid ones will buy whatever crap is released and will make sure to give hell to whoever dares pointing out any flaws on apples products.
 
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