Probably the same number of videos that show vendors using android to apple hardware because people are tired of andoird.
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iPhone Sales in China Dropped Significantly in Q1 2024
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I doubt it. Apple is not one to compete on specs. The best thing one can do is vote with their $$$. And while china is an important market it’s not the end of the world.
You are quoting a song to make your point on geopolitics? Sorry, you said the politics never change. thats what you said. You would be the only person in the world saying that. Well, except for this protected tribe off the coast of Africa that kills anyone that visits. They think the world isn't changing.
What you are describing here is 'rationalization.' Some things are very black and white. The politics between China and the US are getting more strained, China is getting more aggressive. And one day when you can't upgrade your device or get more ram chips because China invaded Taiwan you will have a hard time supporting things dont change.
Amazing how many people count themselves as experts on the state of business and what it means, but who are reflexively basing their comments on one quarter of results. Confirmation bias at its best.
And btw, when the iPhone/Smartphone market was new, it was thrilling to see every new change, update, etc. But this market has matured. I've always been amused by Samsung, et al, who throw every new fangled idea on their phones year after year to see what sticks. I've no interest in chasing such silly add ons each year. Now I value stability and reliability.
And btw, when the iPhone/Smartphone market was new, it was thrilling to see every new change, update, etc. But this market has matured. I've always been amused by Samsung, et al, who throw every new fangled idea on their phones year after year to see what sticks. I've no interest in chasing such silly add ons each year. Now I value stability and reliability.
I think the Chinese government requiring government officials to NOT use the iPhone had an effect on sales. And the poor recent economy in China is not helping iPhone sales, either.
None of the sales either way can be verified. China has a massive gray market and no audits are ever conducted. Huawei, Samsung, Apple or whatever. Nobody knows true sales figures from any Chinese company especially. It’s like their ghost cities. Nobody knows why or who bought what. It’s just as hard to know sales in India etc.
If stories like this are coming from finance bros and hedge funds it’s always market manipulation.
If stories like this are coming from finance bros and hedge funds it’s always market manipulation.
The 'innovative' addition of an action button this year won't change the trajectory.
Wait... if they hardwire the action button to open WeChat, it'll be a smash hit.
Wait... if they hardwire the action button to open WeChat, it'll be a smash hit.
Iphones are obsolete somehow after soon as one year and can’t run newest apps and iOS features. Not acceptable for a flagship model and the high price. It should be able to run all apps and get all iOS features for at least 3 years.
Having worked corporate sales for a decade I laugh at all these sales stats. Corporations don’t count how many actual people bought the phone but how many were sold to a retailer/reseller. Probably warehouses full of Huawei phones that they talked some retailer into purchasing large quantities of. It’s only impressive if a company can hold growth for at least 2 consecutive years.
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You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say politics never change. You are confusing what I did say. OP wrote (and this is a quote)...
...to which I commented (also a quote of exactly what I replied)...
That doesn't say anything about politics never changing. It does have me agreeing with OP that the "difficult political situation" between China & U.S. is probably always "difficult"... as it seems to have always been throughout my lifetime. Sometimes those relations seem better and sometimes worse... but "difficult" can always be a tag applied by someone. The weakest word in my quote is the use of "never" because that's a very long time... but I put some pinch on the boundless timetable of that with the word probably right in front it.
As to your second paragraph: the solution to that issue as it relates to our concerns as Apple customers is for Apple to diversify production of products like phones so that there is no total dependency on China at all. Then relations or politics could max out to the worst case and interested buyers could still buy phones. I have read many such stories over the last few years about various production moving to countries outside of China, so it appears Apple is on this to at least some degree.
If one day, we can't upgrade our phone, that will not be a bad day for us consumers (we can always keep using the phone we already have) but for Apple Inc. And if they maintain dependencies such that there would be such a complete cutoff scenario like that... that would persist for a long time while they have to build up new supply chains from non-China sources, that would be poor strategic planning on their part for not "what if"ing such a scenario in advance so they can quickly adapt and keep their cash registers ringing.
We just went through a thoroughly unexpected event- Covid- which came with shutting down supply lines around the world. Nobody could easily see that coming anywhere near as obviously as a scenario like this. And yet, Apple stuff kept right on being sold... kept right on being available. They seem to have found backup options to getting the supplies of whatever they needed to keep sales rolling throughout the entire period. I don't recall even ONE story where Apple ran out of about anything of consequence during the entire period for any meaningful amount of time.
Certainly a company agile enough to rapidly adapt against a completely unforeseen scenario like Covid must have some plan should China put a full pinch on making phones there. Unlike Covid, such an event would not be quite as "from nowhere" surprising... and yet Apple had little apparent trouble in the total surprise scenario that was Covid.
As a consumer, I would not sweat this at all. Worst possible case for us is continuing to use the tech we already possess while Apple finds other places to make new replacements. Many of us opt for "one more year" with a device we already have without any such geopolitical catalyst. For shareholders, Apple Inc should have strategic contingencies for all business-interrupting events of consequence they can foresee... of which this certainly seems like one of them. And if this was 10 years ago, or 10 years from now, I'd suggest the same. Make those 10s into 50s and I'd suggest the same too.
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Let's see what iPhone sales are like over the next 3 to 6 months now that Huawei has launched the Pura 70
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Huawei’s Pura 70 Ultra Launches With Pioneering New Feature
The latest phone from Huawei has key new communications features which could be crucial in emergency.
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Huawei Debuts New Pura 70 Phones in Fresh Revival Attempt
Huawei's phone business has shown signs of recovery, but it's not yet back to where it was before US sanctions.
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You know he is on the air, right? And he has never aired on Chinese television. You know that, right? So what is your point in terms of sales?
& that’s what Apple counts on
Where as people of china are making a clear choice about what mobile they want with new features
What better way to know what your competitor's product is like (and try to improve upon it) than to spend some time using it.
About 19-20%. Not small.
Apple Has a $74 Billion Problem
The Wall Street Journal reported last week that the Chinese government has ordered officials at central government agencies to stop using Apple's (NASDAQ: AAPL) iPhones for work and to stop bringing the devices into offices. While the direct impact on Apple's sales will likely be
Must be significant because Apple bends over backwards when Chinese government orders it do something.
Imagine what would happen to iPhone sales if Chinese phones were allowed in US.
People must like phones that are bad, that is why Samsung is the leading smartphone maker. Whoever knew!
In countries outside of the US and UK. Honestly I think Apple could actually release a phone with hidden lower specs but new design and people would buy it in the millions, especially those from low socio-economic classes.
Obviously. They are dropping everywhere. Stale design, nothing very innovative, competition has closed the gap. What Apple needs to do is push out ahead with a competition beating device, stop being so stingy with ram (minimum of 12GB, 16GB with pros), a “pro” version of iOS that competes with the flexibility of Android. Right now I have zero reason to upgrade from my 3 year old iPhone 13 to a 16 in the fall. That’s not good for sales.
let's be honest for a sec okay, the iphone 15 line up is a good laugh tho.