iPhone SE iPhone SE 2

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Uni Grad, Sep 26, 2016.

  1. Uni Grad macrumors 6502a

    Uni Grad

    Aug 28, 2015
    Bloomberg News
    If Apple decides to make an iPhone SE 2, what's your wish list?

    I love the 4" size (though would prefer 4.4" or 4.5").

    One thing that I love/hate about the current SE is the edges, they irritate when using the phone, however they look awesome.
    But ultimately curved edges is what I would prefer for usability purposes.
    I would prefer the iPhone 7 body in a 4" size with the internals of the iPhone 7.

    A better display. The iPhone 6S display shrunk to a 4" size maybe? It has better brightness, bettter contrast and colour accuracy.

    iPhone 7 colour options.

    Better front facing camera. A 5MP front facing 720p HD camera from the iPhone 6S.

    And if they can, not really desperately needed though, incorporate 3D Touch as I see Apple using it more and more in iOS 10.

    Stereo speakers from the iPhone 7.

    That would truly be the "most powerful 4-inch phone."
  2. TurboPGT! Suspended

    Sep 25, 2015
    It remains to be seen how much more can be done with the iPhone 5 core design. The SE might be the end of the line.

    I think more likely, Apple will begin with a new core design in the next year or two, that spans 4" to 5.5" sizes.
  3. Uni Grad thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Uni Grad

    Aug 28, 2015
    Bloomberg News
    That would be even better.
  4. se1000 macrumors 6502


    Sep 24, 2014
    LA, CA
    Yup, agree with your points but I unfortunately think the SE will be the end of the road. If I had a wishlist, it would be:

    - Updated front facing camera, possibly the one from the 7
    - 3D touch
    - haptic/updated touch ID home button from the 7
    - taptic engine from the 6s (maybe a new one that better suited the small size of the 5 chassis?)
    - updated screen, even if it kept the same resolution, would like to see the latest tech in brightness and color gamut from the 7
  5. lordofthereef, Sep 26, 2016
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2016

    lordofthereef macrumors G5


    Nov 29, 2011
    Boston, MA
    My expectation is that we see three devices next year; The successor to the SE, the successor to the 7 and the successor to the 7+. That is all assuming that the SE sells well enough.

    I feel at this point they will discontinue the original SE and 6s line. So we will have here new phones and two previous gen.

    Apple hasn't a great product in the SE. It's not severely less capable than its bigger brothers, however it does come in at a rather hefty cost savings. I don't think people who were thinking about flagship devices are going to abandon that choice in favor of a cheaper SE, but I do think Apple is selling phones and possibly even upgraded with the SE that might have been in the fence and moved to another cheaper platform.

    Just going with my gut here. I have no evidence and can easily be wrong. I just don't imagine Apple wants to have a splintered iPhone launch going forward.
  6. TurboPGT! Suspended

    Sep 25, 2015
    Important Note: The iPhone SE was not/is not eligible for the iPhone Upgrade Program. If it were, I would be more inclined to believe that they intended to offer a comparable upgrade at the 12 month mark.

    But it seems far more likely to me that the line ends with the SE, and the iPhone 8 will continue the tradition with a 4" model.
  7. Howyalikdemapls macrumors 6502

    Sep 2, 2013
    You want the SE to have the internals of the iPhone 7, and the body of the iPhone 7, and you would prefer a 4.4" or 4.5" screen? It sounds like the current iPhone 7 is a whole lot closer to what you're looking for than the SE is.

    Is 4.7" that much bigger than 4.5"?
  8. TurboPGT! Suspended

    Sep 25, 2015
    It will be interesting to see how the next core design applies. Personally I don't believe it will differ greatly from what we have now, as I believe this is a great core design in the 6/7 series, and change for change's sake is not good.

    But there is the remote possibility that 4.7" screen can fit in an overall form factor that is smaller the current iPhone 7, and closer to the size of the SE.
  9. Leo90 macrumors 6502

    Sep 15, 2014
    I love my SE but I dont think Apple will uograde it anytime soon. We will know march next year...
  10. tcsbutton macrumors newbie

    Apr 5, 2016
    They just need to make the iPod touch into an iPhone
  11. Uni Grad thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Uni Grad

    Aug 28, 2015
    Bloomberg News
    My apologies for not being more clear. The bezels on the 4.7" iPhone are too big and therefore it becomes a big phone. That's why I'll settle with a 4" unless Apple can decrease the bezels, then I'll move on to the regular size, otherwise I'm fine with the 4".
  12. mattopotamus macrumors G5


    Jun 12, 2012
    Or it's not part of the IUP because it is on a 2 year cycle.
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    I agree with this.
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    The reason tbe SE is so nice is because the screen size. Pretty much anyone can thumb the entire screen. A larger screen in a smaller body still kinda defeats this. Maybe 4.3" max and people could still do it.
  13. Uni Grad thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Uni Grad

    Aug 28, 2015
    Bloomberg News
    Yeah 4.3" would be the sweet spot for me. It would be perfect. I find smaller phones to be more "productive" gadgets. I don't spend too much time consuming media, and get on with my work, and yet still have a smartphone to occasionally browse something interesting, use Google Maps lol, call/text, Facebook, and have a dedicated calendar, listen to music, take some pictures here and there, keep in touch w/ family ...FaceTime. Perfect.
  14. Peepo macrumors 6502a

    Jun 18, 2009
  15. Reno Raines macrumors 65816

    Jul 19, 2015
    I love my SE but think this was a one shot deal. I guess though if they sell enough Apple may do an SE 2.
  16. 12vElectronics macrumors 68040


    Jul 19, 2013
    I think a 4.3" iPhone would be perfect.
  17. alreadyinuse macrumors newbie

    Mar 25, 2017
    They upgraded the storage size....
  18. C DM macrumors Westmere

    Oct 17, 2011
    Which isn't really the type of upgrade that is being referred to.
  19. ASUgrad1999 macrumors regular


    Mar 13, 2012
    Gilbert, AZ
    I think the SE will always be an off-cycle update so it doesn't cannibalize sales of the more premium phones. My guess is we won't see an update until March of 2018 at the earliest. The fact that they just updated the storage options hints that way too.
  20. should88233 macrumors newbie


    Sep 9, 2016
    I think 4.3" would be more perfect than 4" one. The bigger screen, the bigger battery.
  21. Pakaku macrumors 68000


    Aug 29, 2009
    Not much they could do to improve it besides not treating it as an afterthought to the 7s.
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    People who want an SE size were never going to get "the premium" phone anyways so why should Apple not consider the SE to be just as premium?
  22. pika2000 macrumors 68040

    Jun 22, 2007
    When the SE was released, it was "premium" in the sense that it has flagship internals, better than the "mid-range" offering the iPhone 6.
    It is obvious we won't see a refresh this year as Apple just updated the storage tier. When the next iPhone with A11 is released, the SE will be where the iPhone 5S was, a 2-generation-behind model.

    It is unfortunate. I wish Apple would just simplify iPhone lineup, all with same SoC, but differing screen size. That way, people don't have to be stuck with an "older" internals just because they want a smaller phone.
  23. regkilla macrumors 6502


    Mar 19, 2013
    Improved front facing camera, higher resolution display, bigger battery. In the same design but a little bigger overall with 3 gb of RAM.
  24. C DM macrumors Westmere

    Oct 17, 2011
    That sounds more like a regular iPhone model (and even just the plus only has extra RAM) than an SE model.
  25. dave2010 macrumors regular

    Jul 23, 2014
    That's what I want. An 88 g iPhone would be awesome
    Hopefully there are enough people who aren't convinced by the big phone trend for Apple to do something in the small phone market.

    I'll see what Apple does in September and decide. The last innovations from Apple that I'd actually miss were Apple Pay and Car Play in 2014. Apple will have to produce serious new features to get me to use a bigger iPhone and leave the SE behind.

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