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Did the 6S actually lose haptics as time went on? Do you mean the haptic vibrations or actual functionality?

The 6S has a much smaller/more primitive Taptic Engine so it didn't give many system-wide haptic feedback effects to begin with. The iPhone 7 got a much more robust Taptic Engine introduced a lot more of these effects.

Unless you're talking about "peek and pop" functionality which was eliminated for all devices with iOS 13.

(Also, as I posted above, the notification functionality was fixed for the SE 2 on iOS 14).
It’s been almost a year since I used a 6s, but I remember it didn’t have haptics it used to, I think the “home screen” haptics, like when holding an app icon and sliding through the menu. Or when using a number wheel, like in the Alarm app. Just gone.
 
"Released in late 2019"

I can barely remember back that far. How young we all were, before disease and war ravaged the earth. I guess my phone is now classed as an artefact from a bygone age. Like a barometer, or a sextant, or a VHS recorder.
Before disease and war ravaged the 1st world*
It’s only sad when it happens to us.
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"Released in late 2019"

I can barely remember back that far. How young we all were, before disease and war ravaged the earth. I guess my phone is now classed as an artefact from a bygone age. Like a barometer, or a sextant, or a VHS recorder.
I know, right? I still have the 11 and it is practically a dinosaur now. But I don't use it for much except texting and occasional photos. My iPad Air gets far more use.
 
Until iFixit do a tear down and somehow discover Apple has miraculously squashed a 2500mah battery into the iPhone 6 chassis the £70 extra for the 11 is a no-brainer.

I appreciate the faster chip and some prefer the smaller screen but a phone with an 1800mah battery in 2022 is laughable. The battery life on the iPhone 11 is insane.
 
It’s been almost a year since I used a 6s, but I remember it didn’t have haptics it used to, I think the “home screen” haptics, like when pressing an app icon. Or when using a number week, like in the Alarm app. Just gone.
I have a 6S right here and it still gives the Home Screen feedback :)
It's just not as powerful as the newer devices with the big Taptic Engines. Newer devices also play a quiet "click" noise from the speaker to emphasize the effect.

I don't believe the 6S ever gave haptic feedback when using a number wheel, I'm about 98% sure that was brought with the 7.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought they have the same screen technology? Both LCD, both the same pixel density. One is just a little bigger, but that defeats the purpose of the SE's main target audience, people who want smaller phones.
SEs target audience is people wanting a cheaper phone. The 13 Mini’s target audience is people that want a smaller phone, and is a much better phone just much more expensive.
 
11 is the better buy imo.
- 5G: coverage is still scarce. Would you keep using the SE 5 years from now? Unlikely. And even then, 4G would still be around.
- A15 is fast, but that doesn't mean the A13 is slow. I mean what else you can do with that A15 that you cannot do with the A13? And even with the A15, the SE cannot do night mode.
- And all of that for a phone with 1800mAh battery? The iPhone 11 will actually be a more practical and usable phone day to day.
 
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I wouldn't even have to think for a second, 11 would be my choice. The positives outweigh the negatives and it's not like the 11 is/was a slouch.

The SE is just too gimped for the price and 5G isn't a huge deal yet.
 
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The bad 4G signal on iPhone 11 makes the se3 a little more worthy to buy.

my experience: 4G signal on iPhone 11 vs iPhone 8 in mall is 0% vs 60%.
 
But Apple thinks they’re for the same customer. Tim even said something about the SE being for people who like smaller phones, which is all but admitting the 14 Mini isn’t a thing.
Nah, Tim is just BS-ing his way around. The 2020/2022 SE is not for people who like smaller phones since the 2016 SE and the 12/13 minis are actually smaller. The SE is basically for people who want a cheap iPhone, but Tim doesn't want to associate the word cheap with iPhones.
 
would never buy these at list prices. To me the whole point of the SE is to get the phone for much cheaper through a prepaid service like Cricket.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought they have the same screen technology? Both LCD, both the same pixel density. One is just a little bigger, but that defeats the purpose of the SE's main target audience, people who want smaller phones.
2020: Apple made an SE that is larger than the 2016 SE
2020/21: Apple made iPhone mini, smaller than the SE, but decided to stop because sales were "low"
2022: Apple then says SE is for people who want smaller phones

Apple is full of BS. :D
 
2020: Apple made an SE that is larger than the 2016 SE
2020/21: Apple made iPhone mini, smaller than the SE, but decided to stop because sales were "low"
2022: Apple then says SE is for people who want smaller phones

Apple is full of BS. :D
Isn't SE half the price of the mini, though? The SE is for budget-minded people who don't care for a larger screen or bells & whistles. Honda sells more Civics, not because they're better than Accords (they're not)...but because they are more affordable.
 
- A15 is fast, but that doesn't mean the A13 is slow. I mean what else you can do with that A15 that you cannot do with the A13? And even with the A15, the SE cannot do night mode.

Both are fast chips. But if someone is buying a cheaper phone to save money, odds are they aren't interested in upgrading anytime soon. So if they get the iPhone 11, they'll likely have two fewer years of software updates, and the phone will get sluggish sooner.
 
Really wanted Apple to release a SE Plus. My mom is using a 6 Plus and I already know for experience she would struggle going to a smaller iPhone but also struggle even more going to one without a home button. The last big model with a physical home button is the 8 Plus which is pretty long in the tooth too (4 1/2 years old) and finding one in good condition 3rd party is hard and the lower storage models refurbished always seem to be out of stock at the Apple store.
 
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I went from a 7+ to SE in 2020. I've had absolutely no regrets. I mostly compute using desktop or iPad. For me, my iPhone is used for communication and quick reference. I usually use a dedicated camera for pictures anyway. I'll probably upgrade to this latest SE.

I used to buy the latest and greatest, but now - it's all about practically. Maybe it's me just getting older haha.
 
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Whoah, never considered this comparison at all. ?

Don’t mean to be a suck-up, but very cool article.
 
I would pick the SE3 any day. But I guess that is based mostly on personal preference. I actually switched from the XR to the SE2 last year just because I was really tired of having a huge, heavy phone. I really hope Apple’s battery claims regarding the SE3 are true though. Battery life might be the worst aspect if the SE2 and any improvement would make a big difference.
 
I know that it's still a good deal for a 5G iPhone but could they not have just eaten that extra $30 and left it at $399? For some reason, that extra $30 just bugs me.
It's called inflation. Inflation-adjusted, the 2022 model is actually cheaper.
 
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