iPhone SE 4: Here's What the Latest Rumors Say

[MacRumors]

Rumors about a fourth-generation iPhone SE have been circulating since just months after the current model launched in 2022. Below, we have recapped the latest rumors about the device, including potential features and release timing.

Unfortunately, there has been uncertainty surrounding the fourth-generation iPhone SE, with rumors conflicting about if or when the device might launch.

Yesterday, analyst Jeff Pu claimed that the fourth-generation iPhone SE with an Apple-designed 5G modem was delayed until 2025. Today, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo agreed that mass production of Apple's modem could begin in 2025 at the earliest, but he said the iPhone SE that Apple is using to test the modem is actually an internal prototype that the company does not plan to mass produce for release to the public. Based on Kuo's latest information, it is now unclear if a fourth-generation iPhone SE is still planned.

Kuo had previously claimed that the next iPhone SE would have a similar design as the standard iPhone 14 model released last year, suggesting that the device would have been equipped with a 6.1-inch OLED display and Face ID.

The current iPhone SE was released in March 2022 with a 4.7-inch LCD display, Touch ID, 5G, a 12-megapixel rear camera, and the A15 Bionic chip. Priced starting at $429 in the U.S., it is one of Apple's more affordable iPhone models. Previous generations of the iPhone SE were released in 2020 and 2016, so the device has gone multiple years between each refresh, meaning that any new model is unlikely to launch until at least 2024.

All in all, fourth-generation iPhone SE rumors have been in an on-again, off-again state, so there is still uncertainty surrounding the device.

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[orangeadrenaline]

Wish they would use the mini form factor.

 

[floral]

Wish they would use the mini form factor.

Maybe this is why they killed off the mini brand, because it conflicted with SE being for those who wanted a smaller phone originally, and "mini" phones were also for people that wanted to stay small.

 

[winxmac]

iPhone SE 4 - use the iPhone XR/11 body but 1080p or iPhone 12/13 mini and remain 1080p

2016 - 4 inches
2020/2022 - 4.7 inches
2024? - 5.4 inches

 

[crsh1976]

I can see the mini making a return as the next SE - small package, but it's got all the right basics.

In any case, anything but another respin of the iPhone 8 form factor.

 

[sw1tcher]

Maybe this is why they killed off the mini brand, because it conflicted with SE being for those who wanted a smaller phone originally, and "mini" phones were also for people that wanted to stay small.

Apple killed the iPhone mini because it wasn't selling well. That's why they pivoted went bigger with the iPhone 14 Plus. Their thinking was people prefer bigger phones/screens than smaller ones though sales for the 14 Plus probably aren't where Apple hoped them to be either.

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[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

Make it the most affordable iPhone ever. Starting price $399.

 

[klasma]

iPhone SE 4 - use the iPhone XR/11 body but 1080p or iPhone 12/13 mini and remain 1080p

2016 - 4 inches
2020/2022 - 4.7 inches
2024? - 5.4 inches

2050 - 10 inches?

Just extrapolating here.

 

[philcourage]

Make it the most affordable iPhone ever. Starting price $399.

If I could buy an iPhone with USB-C I would buy the cheapest, and this would be amazing.

 

[du57in]

I'm a simple man. I see an iPhone SE rumor, I comment about still wanting an LCD display over OLED.

 

[tipoo]

If it was coming out now I'm honestly not sure how much I'd lose by not going for the 15. Maybe the ultrawide camera, since you have to go Pro to add the third lens, and you have to go Pro for ProMotion. If the screen is as good as the 12 that's perfectly good. If the waterproofing and RAM are the same I might get that over the 15, but not knowing if it'll be here soon or 2025 maybe is a long wait.

 

[bodonnell202]

Make it the most affordable iPhone ever. Starting price $399.

So return to the starting price of the 1st and 2nd gen SE then?

 

[oofio2461]

just buy a 11/12 no need to wait for this.

 

[satcomer]

I say it won't come out until 2024 iOS launch has happened after WWDC!

 

[1369281]

No one wants an OLED iPhone SE.

Make it LCD (without PWM).

 

[livmatus]

If I could buy an iPhone with USB-C I would buy the cheapest, and this would be amazing.

well if it comes in late 2024 or 2025, it will have to use USB-C ... unless they are not planning to sell the thing in EU... or this is THE phone without a charging port we've been hearing about for quite some time

... also I think they'll either release it in spring of 2024 as a rebranded 12 (mini) / 13 (mini) with the A17 chip
... or that late 2024 / 2025 date - they'll create a new design and completely botch it like the 10th gen iPad

 

[tipoo]

No one wants an OLED iPhone SE.

Make it LCD (without PWM).

The majority of people want it on OLED and the people impacted by PWM at the iPhone's quality is a small, small minority. You've let forum discourse let you think you're everyone. It's a much better display than their 326ppi LCDs in the majority of ways.

 

[d686546s]

No one wants an OLED iPhone SE.

Make it LCD (without PWM).

That's a bold claim. I absolutely understand why people who struggle with OLED screens would want an LCD model to be around, but most people don't and would prefer OLED on the SE for the same reasons most people seem to prefer OLED on every other model.

 

[kazmac]

I hope Apple continues the SE. I have no need for a high end phone and would rather put the remaining money into an iPad or a Mac.

 

[azentropy]

Apple killed the iPhone mini because it wasn't selling well. That's why they pivoted went bigger with the iPhone 14 Plus. Their thinking was people prefer bigger phones/screens than smaller ones though sales for the 14 Plus probably aren't where Apple hoped them to be either.

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Right but there are various reasons/factors WHY it didn't sell well. The people who just outright prefer a smaller iPhone (like myself) as their first priority isn't a large group.

People who generally prefer a small iPhone but battery life is more of a priority didn't buy the mini.
People who generally prefer a small iPhone but wanted a Pro camera didn't buy the mini.
Even neutral size users found the $100 price savings not worth it (again vs the better battery life of the regular size).

IF they made the mini form factor more of a budget iPhone (say ~$350 less than the regular size like the current SE), I think it would have a larger following despite the less battery life and lack of pro cameras. But is that even enough to make it a good seller? I don't know.

 

[Ctrlos]

I predict it will offer a substandard set of features compared to the equivalently priced Android competition. Again.

I don't dislike Apple. I think they make great stuff! But I also wish Apple fans knew just how much Apple has been nickel and diming them for the last 5 years.

I know the processor isn't as good but I can still pick up a 90hz OLED USBC Android phone that comes with a condom case and a charger for less than $200. These are not 'Pro' features and shouldn't be treated as such.

 

[Tyler O'Bannon]

Not the phone for me, but a very important part of the lineup and one that will make many people happy.

 

[AmazeSE]

So it seems that iPhone SE 4 is good as dead.
I was really excited for this SE model since all I want is a cheap iPhone with good battery and an updated design. The SE 4 seemed to be the perfect phone for me. But now I am really disappointed .

 

[philcourage]

just buy a 11/12 no need to wait for this.

I think many people wait because they think they'll get a newer processor than with those phones.

 

[philcourage]

Right but there are various reasons/factors WHY it didn't sell well. The people who just outright prefer a smaller iPhone (like myself) as their first priority isn't a large group.

People who generally prefer a small iPhone but battery life is more of a priority didn't buy the mini.
People who generally prefer a small iPhone but wanted a Pro camera didn't buy the mini.
Even neutral size users found the $100 price savings not worth it (again vs the better battery life of the regular size).

IF they made the mini form factor more of a budget iPhone (say ~$350 less than the regular size like the current SE), I think it would have a larger following despite the less battery life and lack of pro cameras. But is that even enough to make it a good seller? I don't know.

Yesterday I visited my mom and she has an old iPod Touch 5th gen. Man, the keyboard buttons are tiny. But, if you could have a thing that small with the newer all-screen design, I think that would be cool.