Iphone tethering charges

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by cryonicjim, Jul 9, 2009.

  1. cryonicjim macrumors newbie

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    Hey guys- since everybody is talking about being able to enable tethering on the 3g and 3gs, i figured somebody should ask if anyone is getting extra charges from at&t for using it. so- anybody get a charge for it yet?
     
  2. chstr macrumors 6502a

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    you wont be charged for tethering if you jailbreak and use pdanet. I cant speak for the 3.0 tethering method
     
  3. RangerXML macrumors regular

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    Supposedly if you don't go Shanghai and download a bunch of torrents AT&T won't notice that your tethering, since you can do all the regular browsing and stuff over your phone. If you keep a close eye on your DATA USAGE and keep it under 5GB a month you should be fine.

    One nice thing about tethering, I can buy big apps via the App Store with out wifi on my notebook, came in handy a couple of times.

    I'm using it right, so trust me, I'll be on here bitching if they do something to me.
     
  4. dudeitsvan macrumors newbie

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    I thought I had heard ATT was cracking down on people that tethering.
     
  5. MasterChief macrumors member

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    you thought you had heard?

    come on...dont start spreading that crap lol
     
  6. cryonicjim thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Has anyone actually seen it happen yet though?
     
  7. -aggie- macrumors P6

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    No, not a word of truth to that.
     
  8. SFStateStudent macrumors 604

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    My AT&T bill shows MMS totals costing me $0.00; of course I have registered my 3GS iPhone with AT&T's MediaNet website, but definitely NO charges for Tethering...:eek::eek::eek:
     

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  9. Speedracer04 macrumors 6502a

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    This is using the built in tethering or PDAnet? I want to know if I can use the built in tethering. Everyone already knew that PDAnet doesnt charge...
     
  10. optophobia macrumors 6502a

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    Just try it and let us know :rolleyes:
     
  11. SFStateStudent macrumors 604

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    Sorry, I should have stated in my previous post; Yes, I'm using the tethering via built-in via a 3G using 3.0 and 3GS using 3.0 and neither is JB....:cool::cool::cool:
     
  12. Tex-Twil macrumors 68020

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    Hi,
    why can I somethimes see the tethering option in the options and sometimes not ?!
     
  13. cryonicjim thread starter macrumors newbie

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    thanks for the info. I'm going to give this a try later,a dn hopefully at&t won't charge me for it
     
  14. Tex-Twil macrumors 68020

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    Hi,
    in Germany they charge 10€/months for tethering. My question is, how can a carrier know that I'm using the iPhone for tethering ?

    I found some tutorials how to activate the tethering option and it worked. The thing is that now I'm scared that my provider can see that I use the tethering.

    But tethering is only a connection between the iPhone and the computer so the carrier can't see that.


    Thanks,
    TEx
     
  15. Alucardx03 macrumors 6502a

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    Contrary to popular belief, AT&T can tell when you're tethering using the 3.0 hack. Whether or not they'll eventually charge is anyone's guess. I would very much recommend using a SOCKS proxy method (netshare, for example), which is much more difficult to monitor.

    Blackberry users, for example, who enable tethering before adding the extra data tethering plan usually get charged on the next bill. Be careful and don't go overboard an you'll probably be safe. But I would really think about Jailbreaking.
     
  16. Scallywag macrumors regular

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    Do explain, I've yet to hear this..
     
  17. thep33t macrumors regular

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    search the forums. Its out there. Packets sent over the internet have alot of overhead. Al tethering needs to do i change one little thing in the header, or anywhere else for it to be noticed, well, that and the shape of the traffic will be different.
     
  18. Speedracer04 macrumors 6502a

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    I have read the forums and people speculate about this...but where is the proof? Do you have it? If not your not better than anyone else saying that. :mad:

    Ive said it in those threads as well and no one can produce anything besides hearsay.

    I havnt heard about it sending these "mysterious packets" to AT&T anywhere else on the internet...not engadget, gizmodo, hackulo.us...nothing.

    So, like I said I want some proof
     
  19. thep33t macrumors regular

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    i don't have proof.

    I do, however, have a fairy vast knowledge of networking, and do know that there is many ways apple could accomplish this. Think of an email header, it has alot more information in it than just To/From/Date.
    All that extra stuff in there is used to track emails, all without you knowing (now, it isnt a perfect system for tracking, but there is alot of cool stuff in there)

    As far as the pdanet/wimi/etc, i am not sure. It is possible that the packets are encrypted, etc such that it is just gobbily-goock (yes, thats a technical term) to apple. However, I would be honestly suprised if Apple didnt make their built in tethering work in such a way that they can't track it.

    P.S: When blackberrys first tethered, this same argument happened, and guess what, those users 'magically' got charged.

    Want proof? Get a job with ATT/Apple

    Want the reality: They can if they want, even if the data doesnt scream "IM TETHERED!!!" it would not be hard to check the data coming out (SEE:packet shaping technology)
     
  20. calvy macrumors 65816

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    Thanks. I did that 5 years ago and still don't know the answer.
     
  21. chstr macrumors 6502a

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    smiles and nods :rolleyes:
     
  22. dordal macrumors member

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    I can't speak for the iPhone, but on Sprint (CDMA technology) they have a 'tether flag'. When you're tethering, its set, and that way Sprint can bill the data against your tethering cap, a.k.a. your 'Phone as Modem' plan, rather than your standard data plan.

    Of course, on a lot of phones, there are hacks such as USB Modem that turn it off... so you tether but don't set the flag, and thus they think it's standard phone data.

    Now what I don't know is if:
    - GSM technology has a similar flag, and if the iPhone 3.0 tethering software is setting it.
    - Assuming it does, if AT&T would pay attention to that flag.

    I'd also be curious to hear if anybody has gotten billed by AT&T for tethering via the 3.0 software method.
     
  23. insanoshano08 macrumors member

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    So has anyone actually had any weird charges using the BENM tethering hack?? I am using it now and i was just wondering. Thanks a bunch!
     

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