iPhone to Huawei

wicked271

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So, my dad finally decided to switch to Huawei all in. He moved from an iPhone 6s Plus to the P40 Pro. I had to help him setup his new phone and without the Google Play, it was complicated!

Thankfully, my dad only needed his most important apps which are the messaging apps: Whatsapp, WeChat, Line and Viber. Only WeChat survived the transfer fully intact with full history. The other 3 apps couldn't transfer the full history. While he can still open the groups chats, there's no data except the new ones. We can get the full history if we can backup to Google drive but on the iPhone, these apps don't have any backup to Google drive! It only backups to iCloud.

Using phone clone apps, I was able to sync his calendar, photos, videos and contacts. That's it. Couldn't transfer his messages. Have to use itunes to download his messages then transfer to Huawei with another app. To download other apps, I have to download it to an android phone then clone it to Huawei. There's no google stuff at all! No youtube, gmail, etc! Thankfully, can still open them with a browser and there's a browser shortcut so that makes it easier.

With this experience, it makes me want to just stay with Apple for awhile until there's an easier way to move from IOS to other devices. With the messaging apps, how do people move their chat history from iphone to android? Is it much easier to move to Android than Huawei? Also, any recommendation for alternative apps to YouTube?

Is there a way to still backup Huawei data to iCloud? I have icloud family. I was able to install Apple music to his Huawei too so that was good news coz he can still use his apple id.
 

jamezr

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So, my dad finally decided to switch to Huawei all in. He moved from an iPhone 6s Plus to the P40 Pro. I had to help him setup his new phone and without the Google Play, it was complicated!

Thankfully, my dad only needed his most important apps which are the messaging apps: Whatsapp, WeChat, Line and Viber. Only WeChat survived the transfer fully intact with full history. The other 3 apps couldn't transfer the full history. While he can still open the groups chats, there's no data except the new ones. We can get the full history if we can backup to Google drive but on the iPhone, these apps don't have any backup to Google drive! It only backups to iCloud.

Using phone clone apps, I was able to sync his calendar, photos, videos and contacts. That's it. Couldn't transfer his messages. Have to use itunes to download his messages then transfer to Huawei with another app. To download other apps, I have to download it to an android phone then clone it to Huawei. There's no google stuff at all! No youtube, gmail, etc! Thankfully, can still open them with a browser and there's a browser shortcut so that makes it easier.

With this experience, it makes me want to just stay with Apple for awhile until there's an easier way to move from IOS to other devices. With the messaging apps, how do people move their chat history from iphone to android? Is it much easier to move to Android than Huawei? Also, any recommendation for alternative apps to YouTube?

Is there a way to still backup Huawei data to iCloud? I have icloud family. I was able to install Apple music to his Huawei too so that was good news coz he can still use his apple id.
Why a Huawei phone? Why not a Pixel or Samsung? It would have been so much easier and most of the app data would have come over to the new phone as well.

Your phone choice hindered your app data syncing. I have moved from iPhone to Pixel and Samsung phone quite seamlessly in the past. There is even a migration tool that will do this either wirelessly or via a cable.
 

ian87w

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So, my dad finally decided to switch to Huawei all in. He moved from an iPhone 6s Plus to the P40 Pro. I had to help him setup his new phone and without the Google Play, it was complicated!

Thankfully, my dad only needed his most important apps which are the messaging apps: Whatsapp, WeChat, Line and Viber. Only WeChat survived the transfer fully intact with full history. The other 3 apps couldn't transfer the full history. While he can still open the groups chats, there's no data except the new ones. We can get the full history if we can backup to Google drive but on the iPhone, these apps don't have any backup to Google drive! It only backups to iCloud.

Using phone clone apps, I was able to sync his calendar, photos, videos and contacts. That's it. Couldn't transfer his messages. Have to use itunes to download his messages then transfer to Huawei with another app. To download other apps, I have to download it to an android phone then clone it to Huawei. There's no google stuff at all! No youtube, gmail, etc! Thankfully, can still open them with a browser and there's a browser shortcut so that makes it easier.

With this experience, it makes me want to just stay with Apple for awhile until there's an easier way to move from IOS to other devices. With the messaging apps, how do people move their chat history from iphone to android? Is it much easier to move to Android than Huawei? Also, any recommendation for alternative apps to YouTube?

Is there a way to still backup Huawei data to iCloud? I have icloud family. I was able to install Apple music to his Huawei too so that was good news coz he can still use his apple id.
The lack of GMS on newer Huawei phones will make your life more difficult, unfortunately. Even if you can find and sideload the APKs, many Android apps depends on GMS to function. Worse, you'll have to do updates manually for some apps. And there's no whatsapp on Huawei App Gallery (luckily Line and Viber are available).

Then you have to figure out the backups. Most apps assume you have Google Drive for cloud backup. I think some might still able to do manual backup to SD card, but that's another headache to figure out.

As for transferring message history to Android, Wechat is the easiest as you found out. For the rest like Whatsapp, I cannot say. I gave up figuring this out. Better to swallow the bitter pill and start fresh.

The only alternative to youtube is watching it from the browser. You cannot duplicate the content youtube has on any other services.
 

ramram55

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So, my dad finally decided to switch to Huawei all in. He moved from an iPhone 6s Plus to the P40 Pro. I had to help him setup his new phone and without the Google Play, it was complicated!

Thankfully, my dad only needed his most important apps which are the messaging apps: Whatsapp, WeChat, Line and Viber. Only WeChat survived the transfer fully intact with full history. The other 3 apps couldn't transfer the full history. While he can still open the groups chats, there's no data except the new ones. We can get the full history if we can backup to Google drive but on the iPhone, these apps don't have any backup to Google drive! It only backups to iCloud.

Using phone clone apps, I was able to sync his calendar, photos, videos and contacts. That's it. Couldn't transfer his messages. Have to use itunes to download his messages then transfer to Huawei with another app. To download other apps, I have to download it to an android phone then clone it to Huawei. There's no google stuff at all! No youtube, gmail, etc! Thankfully, can still open them with a browser and there's a browser shortcut so that makes it easier.

With this experience, it makes me want to just stay with Apple for awhile until there's an easier way to move from IOS to other devices. With the messaging apps, how do people move their chat history from iphone to android? Is it much easier to move to Android than Huawei? Also, any recommendation for alternative apps to YouTube?

Is there a way to still backup Huawei data to iCloud? I have icloud family. I was able to install Apple music to his Huawei too so that was good news coz he can still use his apple id.
Whatsapp, Wechat and Facebook Messenger enough to keep your Android phone to communicate. As for phone is your choice, your money, forget what others said.
I recently did a whatsapp transfer from Samsung to Huawei. Just install the whatsapp app on your new phone, should transfer over.

This is the way. Once Google Play Store install, it is good to go. Install Youtube, Gmail whatever to your heart content.
 
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wicked271

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Why a Huawei phone? Why not a Pixel or Samsung? It would have been so much easier and most of the app data would have come over to the new phone as well.

Your phone choice hindered your app data syncing. I have moved from iPhone to Pixel and Samsung phone quite seamlessly in the past. There is even a migration tool that will do this either wirelessly or via a cable.
For some reason only known to him 😅, he really likes Huawei phones and the camera is really really good!

with the migration tool, is it easy to transfer all these messaging apps history from ios to android? (Text messages, whatsapp,viber, line...?

[QUOTE="ian87w, post: 28610815, member: 1207335"

As for transferring message history to Android, Wechat is the easiest as you found out. For the rest like Whatsapp, I cannot say. I gave up figuring this out. Better to swallow the bitter pill and start fresh.

The only alternative to youtube is watching it from the browser. You cannot duplicate the content youtube has on any other services.
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i had to start fresh with him too. Fortunately, after setup, he was still included in most of his chat groups

why does ios/android apps makes it hard to move from one os to another? It should be easy to just backup/export to dropbox/google drive/onedrive and then import to their apps.

Is there an iMazing app for ios to Android?
 
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Shanghaichica

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Whatsapp, Wechat and Facebook Messenger enough to keep your Android phone to communicate. As for phone is your choice, your money, forget what others said.
I recently did a whatsapp transfer from Samsung to Huawei. Just install the whatsapp app on your new phone, should transfer over.

This is the way. Once Google Play Store install, it is good to go. Install Youtube, Gmail whatever to your heart content.
Do you need to do any extra steps to install google play store and google play services on a Huawei devices or is it as simple as downloading and installing the APKs?

I have sideloaded the google play store on multiple kindle fire tablets. It’s very straight forward. It’s a matter of downloading and installing 4 APKs and you’re good to go.
 

ramram55

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Do you need to do any extra steps to install google play store and google play services on a Huawei devices or is it as simple as downloading and installing the APKs?

I have sideloaded the google play store on multiple kindle fire tablets. It’s very straight forward. It’s a matter of downloading and installing 4 APKs and you’re good to go.
you are right those APKs are the main ones in the link. Should be no problem. The sole purpose is to get the Play Store going.
 
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Shanghaichica

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you are right those APKs are the main ones in the link. Should be no problem. The sole purpose is to get the Play Store going.
I guess for a lot of users they wouldn’t want the hassle of side loading the play store. However i don’t think it would be an issue for me so I don’t think I’d factor that into any purchasing decisions.
 
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wicked271

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Whatsapp, Wechat and Facebook Messenger enough to keep your Android phone to communicate. As for phone is your choice, your money, forget what others said.
I recently did a whatsapp transfer from Samsung to Huawei. Just install the whatsapp app on your new phone, should transfer over.

This is the way. Once Google Play Store install, it is good to go. Install Youtube, Gmail whatever to your heart content.
thanks for the link. If you miss a step while doing this, will it do something to the phone? I have a friend who tried to install the Google play store and it rendered his phone unusable. Fortunately, he was able to have it replace.
 

ramram55

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Why would a misstep do such a damage? Beats me. In my opinion must be curse from some force who are determined to put the company out of business, because Huawei is too far ahead of the competition.
 
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tbayrgs

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Why a Huawei phone? Why not a Pixel or Samsung? It would have been so much easier and most of the app data would have come over to the new phone as well.

Your phone choice hindered your app data syncing. I have moved from iPhone to Pixel and Samsung phone quite seamlessly in the past. There is even a migration tool that will do this either wirelessly or via a cable.
This was my first question as well...why a Huawei phone? Yes, they have a reputation for excellent hardware but the limitations/compromises imposed by not having native Google services seem like a huge obstacle not worth dealing with, especially considering there are other exceptional options in the Android world.
 

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With this experience, it makes me want to just stay with Apple for awhile until there's an easier way to move from IOS to other devices.
As others noted - a Huawei device was not the best example to base this decision on. Both Samsung and Google offer transfer tools to bring data from iOS to their devices.

Is there a way to still backup Huawei data to iCloud?
No, because of Apple.

why does ios/android apps makes it hard to move from one os to another? It should be easy to just backup/export to dropbox/google drive/onedrive and then import to their apps.
I want to say this is because of Apple's policies. Apple won't let other devices connect directly to iCloud (to allow a "pull" of the backup file by the Huawei device). Apple also may be blocking direct access to Google Drive, or Whatsapp would be able to back up to that location to make the backup available to Android devices.
 

Northern Man

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Of course we want to please our father, but if I were you I would have said that I would be pleased to do all the grunt work to help him transition from an iPhone to an Android but only if he went to Samsung or something a little easier than Huawei. His reasons for wanting Huawei are vague.

Is he 40, 50, 80? If not a frail senior, I would tell him if he wants Huawei he is on his own. And if he is a frail senior, even less reason to get involved with Huawei.

No disrespect intended, but sometimes people need to take responsibility for their own choices.
 
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wicked271

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Of course we want to please our father, but if I were you I would have said that I would be pleased to do all the grunt work to help him transition from an iPhone to an Android but only if he went to Samsung or something a little easier than Huawei. His reasons for wanting Huawei are vague.

Is he 40, 50, 80? If not a frail senior, I would tell him if he wants Huawei he is on his own. And if he is a frail senior, even less reason to get involved with Huawei.

No disrespect intended, but sometimes people need to take responsibility for their own choices.
he is in his 70s. But he likes to learn. Before I bought the phone for him, I research it and found that it can transfer most of his apps. Was just not expecting it to be harder than the older Huawei phones.

He is very happy with his phone now and that’s more important 😁. All he needs are his friends group chats with viber, whatsapp etc, call and text message, youtube and a browser! Oh and a good battery! It’s been a week and so far no complaints from him 😆
 

kaielement

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In my onion return the phone asap and look at Samsung, Google Pixel, heck even Motorola if you looking for a good budget phone.
 

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Of course we want to please our father, but if I were you I would have said that I would be pleased to do all the grunt work to help him transition from an iPhone to an Android but only if he went to Samsung or something a little easier than Huawei. His reasons for wanting Huawei are vague.

Is he 40, 50, 80? If not a frail senior, I would tell him if he wants Huawei he is on his own. And if he is a frail senior, even less reason to get involved with Huawei.

No disrespect intended, but sometimes people need to take responsibility for their own choices.
It isn't that hard if you get the APK files. He just didn't know he could get them. He came to the right place, just should of done that before he tackled the chore or researched it first.
Me, I do research on most everything before I buy it if I'm not famiar with it.
 
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