iPhone with wireless N

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  1. sportsfanMAW macrumors regular

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    I mean why not? All the macs (cept the mini) have wireless N in them so why not have the iphone with it? The wi fi jobs showed in his keynote was a bit slow so it would only speed it up right?
     
  2. EricNau Moderator emeritus

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    802.11n isn't necessary for the iPhone for two reasons:

    #1) Internet speeds would not be affected; that is, 802.11g is already much faster than any internet connection available. Since this is the primary reason for Wi-Fi in the iPhone to begin with, Apple probably didn't see the point for a faster connection (plus, that's what USB is for).

    #2) Large files will not fit on the iPhone, so that is not a significant concern either.


    ...Of course, Apple could always decide to add 802.11n anyways.
     
  3. juanster macrumors 68020

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    doubt it, but would not be surprised if they put it in the iPhone
     
  4. coledog macrumors 6502a

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    That would definitely be pretty sweet if they did.
    But that might also drive up the price, as if it isn't high enough!
    Perhaps a 2nd gen option or something...?
     
  5. sportsfanMAW thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yeah but they didn't in the macbook and the imac when the where upgraded :/




    Sidenote: I'm no longer a newbie! yes!
     
  6. neven macrumors 6502a

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    EricNau nailed it. I can't think of any situation where wireless g wouldn't be faster than your Internet connection. Something like syncing files over wireless n would be faster, sure, but there's a reason why Apple aren't doing wireless data transfer yet - the battery life would be significantly affected, especially over wireless n. Someone put it like this: if you wirelessly transferred a load of files to your iPhone, the next thing you'd have to do is dock it to charge it, thereby negating any benefit of transferring the data wirelessly!
     
  7. chatster18 macrumors regular

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    True, but what about after you have done your initial sync with the USB cable. Lets say you have a wireless N network at home, you pull into the driveway and your iPhone automatically logs on to your home network. It pops up a prompt say "New Songs {list songs} Would you like to sync?" Then you have the option to sync just the new songs or update your library, since I would think you would buy one or two songs at a time maybe a CD that would still make syncing so much faster. IMHO
     
  8. sportsfanMAW thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yes i agree with the post above me

    And also it would just increase the rang of Wi Fi so Edge would be used less because edge is slower correct?
     
  9. emanaydin macrumors member

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    802.11g isnt faster than my cable at home, when i upgraded to the airport extreme, speeds exceeded what i got with g tremendously. My MacBook on N is just as fast as my wired PC now, its incredible.
     
  10. EricNau Moderator emeritus

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    802.11g is capable of 54 Mbps (for comparison, most cable connections don't exceed 10 Mbps). ...Wireless G is far faster than any home cable connection.

    Chances are, the new airport just has better range than your previous wireless router, so you are experiencing faster speeds. (Notice how your wired connection is the same speed as your wireless connection, even though they operate at different speeds? It's because both are already exceeding the speed of your internet connection.)
     
  11. mgrm macrumors newbie

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    I've got a 100Mbps full duplex Internet connection at my home.
    The only time you will get all 54 Mbps is if you're sitting next to the AP (not even sure that would help).
    So if you have a setup like me with a fileserver at home connected to the home network with 1Gbps then N wifi will make a big difference.
     
  12. digitalpimp macrumors newbie

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    Either you've got IFITL and it's linked at 100Mb/Full or you've got a friggin sonet ring in your basement. How much are you paying for a 100Mbps internet connection? :)
     
  13. whooleytoo macrumors 603

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    True, but I'd be gobsmacked if you actually got anything like 54Mbps sustained transfer rate with 802.11g - I don't think I've ever seen mine go over 20Mbps - whereas wired connections tend to perform much closer to the maximum data rate.
     
  14. MacDonaldsd macrumors 65816

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    Like others have said it simply isn't needed. Internet connections are not as fast as 802.11g and your not going to be doing anything major in terms of data transfer.

    Im not sure, but 802.11n probably uses more battery than 802.11g which would obviously be a major factor.
     
  15. sportsfanMAW thread starter macrumors regular

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    I remember reading somewhere that the wireless N chips in the macbook helped save battery life... Maybe i'm crazy and am thinking about something else :/
     
  16. EricNau Moderator emeritus

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    True, but even 20 Mbps is faster than any common internet connection, so 802.11g is plenty for the iPhone.

    (Keep in mind, the iPhone's wifi is primarily for internet, not file transfer.)
     

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