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iPhone X Camera Overview: Portrait Lighting, Video Improvements, Front-Facing Portraits and More
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You may well be right. When they said
that may or may not mean that it's improved over the 8's. It's pretty ambiguous really, but as the article is written about the X, I took it to mean that it was improved over the 8's.
Actually, it does sort of mention that, it just doesn't say the word algorithms
As the filters are just algorithms and not an actual physical filter, or rather, it's processing done after the image is taken, they did mention it.
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If the initial article were clearer as to what these improvements were made over, as in the iPhone 8 or 7, we wouldn't be reading this in two different ways!
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Zoom in and you'll see it doesn't look nearly as good. Though that's not to say it doesn't fit the OPs purpose.
This guy...
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I'll be honest, I'm 100% shocked and in awe of how good this camera has been so far. My girl and I were literally just gawking and thinking to ourselves why does the house look so much better in the iPhone photos than in real life lol. The X lens is better than my eye lens lolol.
Hyberbole and joking to convey how satisfied I am with the quality of the photos coming from this camera lol. Ya'll are something else lolol.
I told you exactly what I was testing more than 3 times, you continue to ignore that. I really have nothing more to add.
the noise reduction on the newer iphones is really bad. Apple needs to tone it down
In my opinion you're being way too extreme about all this.
Think you can spot the difference between an Apple QuickTake picture and a Nikon D5 picture when you're viewing them on an Apple ][?
An Apple 2? Really?
You're also exaggerating my points. The iPhone X display is not "tiny and low resolution".
My sense is you are angry about the popularity of smartphone cameras and feel they are intruding on the art and purity of photography. I'm sorry, but times change. There is a place for both, and smartphones will only get better and better.
I will stand behind my statement that the latest iPhones take amazing photos which are terrific not only for social media but for printing and showing off on modern high resolution color-calibrated mobile device displays. My wife has taken beautiful, artistic shots on her iPhone which impress even seasoned photographers.
For those with the skills, money, and time to invest in DSLRs, they are still well worth owning and using. But to dismiss the quality and usefulness of today's smartphone cameras is just being stubborn.
Because if the light is good, and you can stay away from the iPhone's dreadful over processing, a closeup picture will look very good because it will take up more of the frame, hence, that object gets more pixels of the total resolution the image sensor is capable of, therefore making it look very good and detailed.
There's a reason you want a lot of pixels/resolution for landscape photography. The more you have in the frame the less pixels there are dedicated to resolving detail. Under scrutiny or viewing at 100% the technical quality of the photo will not hold up.
[doublepost=1510190200][/doublepost]It's also why images look much better on your phone until you open them up on a 5k imac and realize the technical image quality is not that great, and the over processing is much easier to see.
I wish apple would fix their iPhone tendency to always blow out highlights especially on their front facing camera. The sky on both front and back often gets blown out which can be seen in your pic.
Well, it is in beta so I’m hoping that only continues to improve. The impressive part is that is was point, click and done. Not one step had to be taken post photo. Maybe it’s just me, but that’s impressive as hell.
I've never found blowout to always occur. However, I suspect the exposure algorithm makes a tradeoff in order to create a photo that feels balanced (including shadowed areas) to most people who rely on autoexposure.
As with most cameras, it's not always perfect, but it is easy enough to dial in exposure compensation when necessary. It's a consequence of having a small sensor with small photosites and corresponding modest dynamic range.
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Yes, that's exactly what I want to know more about. I'm not deciding whether to upgrade from my 6+... I am upgrading. I just want to know all the differences between the 8+ and X (photos being the most important to me at the moment).
Does it?
Even just adding stabilisation to the zoomed lens will help improve the quality. Videoing stages at kids concerts doesn't work so well...
It's a pity that it doesn't use the 4K capability when you zoom in at 1080p. Unless that changed with iOS11? On iOS 10 if you zoom in 2x in 1080p mode reduces to 540p... so the best result was to put the camera into 4K mode, zoom in 2x, then reduce the recording from an unnecessary 4K to 1080p later.
It doesn't say the iPhone X uses algorithms/filters that the iPhone 8 doesn't. And since it has the same internal chip I'd assume it does.
That’s possibly true. I can’t find anything anywhere on the internet saying whether the algorithms are the same or different. Apple like to keep as much secret as they can for some reason.
Even if the chips are the same, it doesn't necessarily guarantee that the algorithms are identical for the 8 and X.
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No offence man, I like the overall picture, the composition and especially how much details of the surrounding cities is in the background. But nature looks messy in nearly shot by the iPhone X I have seen so far, like the details in the grass texture on your pic or the trees. Also the branches on the photo from the article and the flowers/grass/tree photo from the story yesterday. It seems to me like apples noise reduction has an issue with complex textures and details, like the many small details in nature shots. The image as a whole is quite fine, but with a 12mp camera you should be able to zoom in or look at the picture on a large screen without making out noise like on old point-and-shoot cameras or on digital zoom on my 3G.
I’ll have to try nature shots out when my X arrives.
I understand what you are saying when you say it that way. But again, I think if you take a look at someone who put more than a few seconds into taking the snap vs whipping it out and composing and framing and adjusting within seconds to snap before someone swings their golf club lol, you'll find it's not so murky. There are some fantastic examples in this thread of the sharpness that can be achieved with the phone when the proper time is taken to set up the comp.
And yes, grab some shots when your X arrives and please post the results, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
But for now, as far as just whipping it out and grabbing pics in a few seconds, it takes amazing photos.
or maybe new ball game for photos, not cameras. There is only so much you can do with the limited amount of space. My point was that software plays a big part in photos now and the new phones have the processing power and software to do a lot of the processing work on the fly that experienced photographers do with the RAWs after they shoot. You're average consumer isn't pixel peeping 1:1. When my images are uploaded and compressed for the web, you won't see much difference... unfortunately.
This is so true, I really think their processing got really bad between the 6 and the 6s. They need to take another look, but not enough people complain so they will do nothing. As I've said before, I think the iphone cameras are good but their processing is very bad considering that most of the phone cameras from a hardware perspective are very similar, and I do not see the horrible processing I'm talking about as much in the pixel 2 and Galaxy in many camera comparisons.
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I've said the same thing and have felt the same way. Was very disappointed when I switched from a 6+ to a 7+. I started noticing HORRIBLE over processing.
[doublepost=1522334712][/doublepost]What is the video quality of the forward facing camera? That's the only spec I can't find. My iphone 6s is 720. Hopefully they've at least upped it to 1080p.
With each new iPhone, Apple introduces significant camera improvements, a practice that has established the iPhone as one of the most popular cameras for photography on sites like Flickr.
The iPhone X, as Apple's new flagship device, is no exception. It features new hardware and new features that have established it as the best iPhone camera to date, on par with dedicated point and shoot devices and even DSLRs in some modes. With the iPhone X now widely available, we spent some time with the iPhone X's rear and front-facing cameras to see just what they can do.
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There's an all new rear camera in the iPhone X, with two lenses arranged in a vertical orientation, a first for an iPhone. Apple chose a vertical orientation because of space constraints and design changes that required more available surface area for the front-facing TrueDepth camera.
The rear camera has a standard f/1.8 12-megapixel wide-angle lens that's paired with an f/2.4 12-megapixel telephoto lens. Sensors in both lenses have been improved, and the lower aperture of the telephoto lens means it's able to let in a lot more light for sharper images in poor lighting conditions.
In addition to sensor improvements, Apple has introduced a new color filter for more vibrant photos, and there's a new Apple-designed image signal processor that can detect elements in a scene for faster autofocusing and optimization of scene elements before an image is even captured.
Both rear lenses support optical image stabilization for the first time, for better photo quality in all lighting conditions, and better than ever portraits when using Portrait Mode.
There's also a new front-facing camera system, the TrueDepth camera, which is what powers Face ID with its dot projector and infrared camera and sensors. There's also a high-quality f/2.2 7-megapixel camera built into the TrueDepth system for taking selfies.
With the TrueDepth camera, the front-facing camera in the iPhone X now supports Portrait Mode right alongside the rear camera, so you can create Portrait Mode selfies with an artfully blurred background. Both the front and rear-facing cameras also work with the new Portrait Lighting feature for dynamically adjusting the lighting in a photo.
Photo taking isn't the only improvement in the iPhone X. The rear-facing camera supports 4K video capture at 60 frames per second and 1080p slo-mo video at up to 240 frames per second, both significant improvements over previous-generation devices. New video stabilization techniques, the aforementioned larger sensor, and the new image signal processor all go a long way towards improving video quality.
Along with this detailed look at the iPhone X's camera, we're going to be sharing a lot more iPhone X content over the course of the coming week, so make sure to stay tuned to MacRumors.com and subscribe to our YouTube channel if you haven't done so already.
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