iPhone X - Difference between Sprint & Verizon

airdogz13

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Planning on pre-ordering an iPhone X on my Sprint iPhone using the Apple Store app and paying in full. Are there any differences between Sprint or Verizon versions even though they're on the same band?

Follow up question. I've read somewhere that with Sprint iPhones, if you activate it with a Sprint sim, you pretty much locked the phone to Sprint. Where as if you activate a Verizon iPhone with a Verizon sim, it's not locked to Verizon. Is this true? Should I be trying to get a Verizon iPhone to get a truly unlocked iPhone?
 

Dominican

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Planning on pre-ordering an iPhone X on my Sprint iPhone using the Apple Store app and paying in full. Are there any differences between Sprint or Verizon versions even though they're on the same band?

Follow up question. I've read somewhere that with Sprint iPhones, if you activate it with a Sprint sim, you pretty much locked the phone to Sprint. Where as if you activate a Verizon iPhone with a Verizon sim, it's not locked to Verizon. Is this true? Should I be trying to get a Verizon iPhone to get a truly unlocked iPhone?
Not true All Verizon phone come unlocked secondly sprint network really slow and all sprint phone work anywhere long is unlocked. Don’t buy T-Mobile or att Because it doesn’t work on sprint or Verizon
 
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Planning on pre-ordering an iPhone X on my Sprint iPhone using the Apple Store app and paying in full. Are there any differences between Sprint or Verizon versions even though they're on the same band?

Follow up question. I've read somewhere that with Sprint iPhones, if you activate it with a Sprint sim, you pretty much locked the phone to Sprint. Where as if you activate a Verizon iPhone with a Verizon sim, it's not locked to Verizon. Is this true? Should I be trying to get a Verizon iPhone to get a truly unlocked iPhone?
Verizon and sprint has same box on front. But on back side the box will have different model numbers. Also both carrier boxes are sturdy. It’s just the internal of the iphones maybe different but boxes are same.
 

Laryl

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Your sprint phone can be unlocked by sprint if/when you decide to sell it. Not a big deal.
 

DreamPod

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Dunno about iPhone X, but with the SE, the Sprint model supports one more LTE channel that the Verizon model doesn’t. If you don’t have that channel, you get slower data on Sprint.
 

protoxx

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Verizon phone has Verizon sim and is registered in Verizon database (not sprint's)
Sprint phone has Sprint sim and is registered in Sprint database (not verizon's)

Verizon's is unlocked because of LTE licensing agreement.
Sprint's is lock to Sprint and Sprint can be an epic pain about unlocking.
 
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If you get a Verizon model and want to use it on Sprint the IMEI will not be in the database as @KingslayerG5 mentions in his linked post.

You will need to find a rep at Sprint to file an internal ClickIt ticket and who is familiar with the DNA 2 system to get your IMEI added to the database.

They can do it, but the average rep has no clue. Your best bet would be to find someone on Sprint's reddit page.
 

airdogz13

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Your sprint phone can be unlocked by sprint if/when you decide to sell it. Not a big deal.
True. However, I'm hoping to not have to deal with Sprint rep anymore than I need to.

Dunno about iPhone X, but with the SE, the Sprint model supports one more LTE channel that the Verizon model doesn’t. If you don’t have that channel, you get slower data on Sprint.
If this is also true for the iPhone X, then I'll have no choice but to go with Sprint.

Verizon phone has Verizon sim and is registered in Verizon database (not sprint's)
Sprint phone has Sprint sim and is registered in Sprint database (not verizon's)

Verizon's is unlocked because of LTE licensing agreement.
Sprint's is lock to Sprint and Sprint can be an epic pain about unlocking.
Exactly. Are you also suggesting I should go with a Verizon iPhone?

If you get a Verizon model and want to use it on Sprint the IMEI will not be in the database as @KingslayerG5 mentions in his linked post.

You will need to find a rep at Sprint to file an internal ClickIt ticket and who is familiar with the DNA 2 system to get your IMEI added to the database.

They can do it, but the average rep has no clue. Your best bet would be to find someone on Sprint's reddit page.
I've worked with a few Sprint reddit reps years ago. They were really helpful but it looks like their accounts are all closed.


So it sounds like I should go with Verizon unless there's an extra LTE channel in the Sprint version that Verizon won't have. I would have to contact Sprint to transfer my number regardless. At least with a Verizon phone, I don't have to ask to unlock it if/when I leave Sprint.
 

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You can't pre-order a Verizon phone if you're on Sprint.

You overlook that basic fact.
 

KingslayerG5

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With Sprint, there are two ways to unlock your phone - international or domestic. You would need to call them at least twice for it.

My LG G5 (LS922) got both. Then I moved to Verizon and T-Mobile.

Feb 17, 2017
Sprint LG G5, $240

March 18, 2017
Verizon Google Pixel, $650

March 20, 2017
T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 edge, free with trade-in. But more or less $200

March 22, 2017
T-Mobile HTC One M7, $60 used from Craigslist. Just missed its design which is my favorite design ever. Got it (again) exactly 4 years after its release.

May 2, 2017
T-Mobile LG V20, used the $528 rebate card from the S7e and paid another $12.

May 20, 2017
AT&T GoPhone Apple iPhone SE, $200

Sold off the Pixel and S7 edge because I couldn't handle paying $180-$195 for two services. The only thing I liked from Sprint is their voice customer service is friendly and their store customer service is a little better than Verizon's.

Network / coverage / signal (Northern OC)
Verizon
AT&T
T-Mobile
Sprint

Data speed
Verizon
T-Mobile
AT&T
Sprint

Value
T-Mobile
Sprint
AT&T
Verizon

Best for me
T-Mobile
Verizon
AT&T
Sprint

My other phones are more compatible to it since Verizon is CDMA. After I got my Sprint G5 unlocked for both international and domestic, it could read my T-Mo sim but only for text and call but no data. After three months, it stopped reading it.

Tried selling my favorite phone of all-time and it would no longer read ANY sim from me or the potential buyer. We went to two Sprint stores and I went to a Best Buy and none of them had a clue. One BB guy told me because my account is still attached to the phone. That's when I read that Howard Forums thread later that night. Convoluted mess.

I ended up giving it to the nice South Korean gentleman for free and told his college son to just use it as a media player because my G5 (RS988) that I got from B&H for $350 was on the way. Lost my FM radio but don't care. As long as I got rid of anything to do with Sprint! Paid an extra $100 because I wanted silver again over titan. Good karma followed with my work that same week.

Being selfless works. That's why don't get too obsessed buying iPhone X on launch day to capitalize making $$$$ off eBay or trying to look cool before people that get it. Nothing life changing about iPhone X. Sour grapes and being envious won't get you far. Be a team player. You win some, you lose some. Nothing is perfect in life.

This is why I refuse to use e-sim that Apple and Google are trying to push. It's another ESN crap. All these carriers are leeches like these brands including our favs. That's why they push all these great discounts on phones a few months later because they want you to be stuck with them. Since contracts no longer exist, that's their handcuffs on you. Promos on phones.

I only buy UNLOCKED phones from now on to sort from the mess. No carrier bloat, boot animation, branding. Stick to Verizon because friends don't let friends join Sprint. I would have stayed with Verizon myself but I don't like their customer service where I live, most of my 7 phones won't work on it, and the price ($90-$115) for one line with or without balance on the Pixel 1. T-Mo is giving me a $325 bill credits for showing proof I bought a Pixel 1. That's now $57 for unlimited.

I hate Sprint so much, I wouldn't join them if they gave me an iPhone X for free. It would end up being an iPod touch or I would sell it. You can also just buy them cheap from Best Buy and sell them off. I actually bought three G5s (Sprint) from Best Buy for $240 and $120 twice. The first was what I kept until giving it away and the latter two I either sold for $100 profit on Craigslist or used as trade-in to get the S7e.

Sprint's only advantage is Best Buy sometimes offers them so cheap especially for LG. Then sell them off to any Sprint users out there. You would have to deal with one month charges though. Save the trouble and go Verizon or T-Mobile. I saw the Essential and KeyOne the day I gave away my older G5. I wouldn't join Sprint if both were handed to me for free that day. Just sprint out the door.

Use this to check for network compatibility
https://willmyphonework.net
 

protoxx

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You can't pre-order a Verizon phone if you're on Sprint.

You overlook that basic fact.
They are the very same phone. (not all releases in past)

The only physical/mechanical/electronic difference is the sim card. Plus what database it is registered in. So the different part number for the package.

While the sim free version is not available you have to order a carrier version. To order a Verizon phone you need to be a Verizon customer, same for Sprint.
 

airdogz13

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You can't pre-order a Verizon phone if you're on Sprint.

You overlook that basic fact.
You are correct. It looks like I need to pre-order a Sprint version.

Can I avoid the carrier lock by placing a Verizon sim in it before powering it on for the first time?