Apple says that Face ID works perfectly during the night and during the day. But I am wondering if Face ID works in countries with very (very!) strong sunlight? Will the front camera recognise the dots in that case?
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iPhone X Face ID under strong sunlight
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I don't see why it would be an issue. I've certainly not read anything anywhere to indicate it is.
I can't see why it would be a problem, but we won't know until it's in the hands of more people.
From wiki: In terms of energy, sunlight at Earth's surface is around 52 to 55 percent infrared (above 700 nm), 42 to 43 percent visible (400 to 700 nm), and 3 to 5 percent ultraviolet (below 400 nm).
You could imagine this high amount of infrared radiation would overexpose the face, and make the IR sensor useless. My guess would be that the sensor is designed to filter out the longer wavelengths given off by the IR emitters on the phone, thus the other IR becomes filtered noise. Complete hypothesis though.
You could imagine this high amount of infrared radiation would overexpose the face, and make the IR sensor useless. My guess would be that the sensor is designed to filter out the longer wavelengths given off by the IR emitters on the phone, thus the other IR becomes filtered noise. Complete hypothesis though.
Ha, soon? Good luck getting your X before 2019! There is no chance Apple will be able to ship any on time. Makes no sense though since it's all old tech just pulled from old Android phones
Ha, soon? Good luck getting your X before 2019! There is no chance Apple will be able to ship any on time. Makes no sense though since it's all old tech just pulled from old Android phones
Ha, soon? Good luck getting your X before 2019! There is no chance Apple will be able to ship any on time. Makes no sense though since it's all old tech just pulled from old Android phones
Nah 2022 at the earliest. And most of the tech was in the 3210.
Ha, soon? Good luck getting your X before 2019! There is no chance Apple will be able to ship any on time. Makes no sense though since it's all old tech just pulled from old Android phones
Pulled from old Android phones, Face ID isn’t pulled from old Andriod phones. Also it isn’t a race to be first, i’d much prefer to have a device that has the technology better implemented, Touch ID for example was much better when Apple did it than any of the finger print readers in competitor devices. There is no shame in taking time to get something right.
I was being sarcastic in my original post. The guy I responded to, I have seen in many forums dealing with constant bashing of liking the X.
Ha, soon? Good luck getting your X before 2019! There is no chance Apple will be able to ship any on time. Makes no sense though since it's all old tech just pulled from old Android phones
I am not getting the X. I am very happy with my new 8+.
Try to relax!
I imagine Apple has everything figured and tested for all conditions. I don't necessarily think this technology will be perfect immediately, but they will constantly keep improving where iPhone users are experiencing any type of issues and reporting them. We will know in a matter of weeks.
Pretty much. He said if they were too dark they could end up blocking the IR and so on from passing through the lenses of the shades. (Also potentially blocking the eyes aware feature, but that feature can be toggled off)
Chiming in as someone who has worked with IR depth cameras in a research setting:
IR radiation from the sun does indeed interfere with most structured light depth cameras, most notably those by PrimeSense, who were acquired by Apple a while back to develop this tech for Face ID. Although it used to be the case that sunlight would render these sensors almost completely unusable anywhere that sunlight was present (even indoors, if there was enough outdoor light), there has been some developments as recent as 2015 which appear to address these issues (skip to 1:17):
I figure that Apple would have done something like the above before pushing this to market, because previously the tech really was too unreliable outdoors to be usable.
tl;dr: It's probably fine, enjoy your FaceID
IR radiation from the sun does indeed interfere with most structured light depth cameras, most notably those by PrimeSense, who were acquired by Apple a while back to develop this tech for Face ID. Although it used to be the case that sunlight would render these sensors almost completely unusable anywhere that sunlight was present (even indoors, if there was enough outdoor light), there has been some developments as recent as 2015 which appear to address these issues (skip to 1:17):
I figure that Apple would have done something like the above before pushing this to market, because previously the tech really was too unreliable outdoors to be usable.
tl;dr: It's probably fine, enjoy your FaceID
Chiming in as someone who has worked with IR depth cameras in a research setting:
IR radiation from the sun does indeed interfere with most structured light depth cameras, most notably those by PrimeSense, who were acquired by Apple a while back to develop this tech for Face ID. Although it used to be the case that sunlight would render these sensors almost completely unusable anywhere that sunlight was present (even indoors, if there was enough outdoor light), there has been some developments as recent as 2015 which appear to address these issues (skip to 1:17):
I figure that Apple would have done something like the above before pushing this to market, because previously the tech really was too unreliable outdoors to be usable.
tl;dr: It's probably fine, enjoy your FaceID
Ah, a genuine expert! Excellent. While you’re here, what’s the industry thinking in terms of the risk of retinal damage through frequent eye exposure to the IR dots of these systems? None, I’m hoping...
Sorry if it’s a silly question!