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iPhone X iphone X sales not living up to expectations

boltjames said:
It is 2018. The iPhone X exists. You can't pretend it doesn't. Wireless charging, facial recognition....all this exists in iPhone right now, today, I've got these in my pants pocket right now on an Apple device. It's not something "innovative that separates Android from iPhone" any more.
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Nothing separates it because Apple finally caught up and is using the innovation developed by the likes of Samsung, LG and Google. The credit is not Apples. Sure they’ve done most things better, but nothing is innovative or what we haven’t seen before.

If you think you’re going to get your list you’ll be waiting a long time because it’s already well known what Apple has copied. The iPhone X is a good phone, but I can’t see anything new other than it being new on an iPhone.
 
The-Real-Deal82 said:
Nearly everything on the X has come from Android OEM’s.

The notch
OLED
Facial recognition
Wireless charging (not fast charging as seen on Android)

You wouldn’t know this though because you’ve admitted you haven’t got a clue what is on Android devices. You’re out of your depth because you’ve never taken an interest.

What has the X got that we haven’t already seen elsewhere? Give us 10...
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Actually, it's the other way around.

And the Facial Recognition isn't the same on the X at all. No Android does it like the X.

The Palm Pre was the first phone to have wireless charging. (Android copied them).

And Nokia N85 was the first OLED. Not an Android phone. Again Android copied them.
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Shanghaichica said:
Do you know how many units the X has sold?
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They didn't sell enough as to them cutting back production now.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/26/investing/iphone-x-weak-sales/

And sales expectations lowered from 50 million to 30 million. That is enough evidence it's not selling as well.

Citing the iPhone X's super-high $1,000 price and confusing features, a Sinolink Securities analyst predicted that Apple will ship just 35 million iPhone X devices in the first three months of 2018, roughly 10 million fewer than previously expected. JL Warren Capital now estimates Apple will deliver just 25 million iPhone Xs. Jefferies is slightly more bullish, expecting Apple to ship 40 million.

http://www.newsweek.com/iphone-x-price-apple-sales-759521

In the first quarter of next year, shipments are expected to fall from 30 million units to 25 million, JL Warren Capital LLC said Friday in a memo to its clients, which cited the device's "high price point and a lack of interesting innovations” as a reason for the low demand, Bloomberg reported.
 
4RunnerHeaven said:
Actually, it's the other way around.

And the Facial Recognition isn't the same on the X at all. No Android does it like the X.

The Palm Pre was the first phone to have wireless charging. (Android copied them).

And Nokia N85 was the first OLED. Not an Android phone. Again Android copied them.
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That highlights my point though doesn’t it? Apple are last in the race at using these concepts. I did say Apple often do it better, hence why I choose them as my phone supplier. Android made a lot of these features popular, especially Samsung’s development of OLED. A form of facial recognition was used on the S4 back in 2013 and it’s developed further from there.

When you say it’s the other way around, what did you mean?
 
The-Real-Deal82 said:
That highlights my point though doesn’t it? Apple are last in the race at using these concepts. I did say Apple often do it better, hence why I choose them as my phone supplier. Android made a lot of these features popular, especially Samsung’s development of OLED. A form of facial recognition was used on the S4 back in 2013 and it’s developed further from there.

When you say it’s the other way around, what did you mean?
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I mean that Android didn't innovate anything. It was out before Android had it.
 
The-Real-Deal82 said:
Nearly everything on the X has come from Android OEM’s.

The notch
OLED
Facial recognition
Wireless charging (not fast charging as seen on Android)

You wouldn’t know this though because you’ve admitted you haven’t got a clue what is on Android devices. You’re out of your depth because you’ve never taken an interest.

What has the X got that we haven’t already seen elsewhere? Give us 10...
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Unnatural bad OLED yes first seen on android

Facial recognition that isn’t secure and not working very well yes seen on many devices before

Wireless charging hmm Samsung didn’t do it as fast as the Nokia’s I had well before that. I’m still using my Nokia charger with the X.

Having seen a bad version is not the same as having it properly integrated and working well and secure.
 
cyb3rdud3 said:
Unnatural bad OLED yes first seen on android

Facial recognition that isn’t secure and not working very well yes seen on many devices before

Wireless charging hmm Samsung didn’t do it as fast as the Nokia’s I had well before that. I’m still using my Nokia charger with the X.

Having seen a bad version is not the same as having it properly integrated and working well and secure.
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I said Apple often implement features better, in fact this is the third time in three posts.
 
I’m much happier with the 8, than I was with the X, for many reasons. The X’s killer feature is its screen, but at what price (pun intended)?

Apple’s four year old design satisfies the masses. A lot of people don’t have a need for the X or don’t agree with their design decisions. It should come as no surprise that sales will plummet over time, as their premium product has a few shortcomings that don’t justify its price.

We’ve hit a road where features have peaked and prices are going up. It’s a strange time in the smartphone world.
 
Glideslope said:
When I refer to the X as a Beta Device I am referencing Face ID. Nothing else. :apple:
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I’m not. Face ID was released in a Beta state. As was iOS 11 and Mac OS 10.13. It’s Apple 2017.That is a fact. Not a deflection. :apple:
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That's really not how facts work at all.
 
cyb3rdud3 said:
Unnatural bad OLED yes first seen on android

Facial recognition that isn’t secure and not working very well yes seen on many devices before

Wireless charging hmm Samsung didn’t do it as fast as the Nokia’s I had well before that. I’m still using my Nokia charger with the X.

Having seen a bad version is not the same as having it properly integrated and working well and secure.
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OLED was not first seen on Android. Nokia N85 it was first seen on.
 
Have a Samsung 7 as a work phone and I prefer how they placed "soft keys" on either side of the home button. Good and efficient use of that touch screen area. Touch left of home button and Recent Apps appear on screen. Touch right of home button and go Back. Beyond that prefer my iP6S UI.
 
mvray said:
Have a Samsung 7 as a work phone and I prefer how they placed "soft keys" on either side of the home button. Good and efficient use of that touch screen area. Touch left of home button and Recent Apps appear on screen. Touch right of home button and go Back. Beyond that prefer my iP6S UI.
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The iPhone X is more advanced than that, it uses gestures to accomplish the same thing.
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C DM said:
That's really not how facts work at all.
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Not only wouldn't Apple take a chance on a buggy interface on their flagship product, ever, but the biggest corporation in the world wouldn't risk investors money on a gamble that the damned thing wouldn't even get past the lock screen. Does anyone think these conspiracy theories through?

Oh, one more thing: Face ID works brilliantly, it's more stable than Touch ID was, it's probably the best new feature on the device. Beta? LOL.
 
You guys are still on here going back and forth lol. In the end it’s a phone. Just like any other phone. Sometimes Apple makes products that suck. Sometimes they are pretty good. It happens. Calm down. Step away from the computer. In the end, no one cares whether Apple does good or bad. How well their phones sell. Or whether a competitor makes a better phone. The sun will still come out every day. In the grand scheme of things. Who cares? Everything will be ok. :)
 
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Well I paid $545 got free airpods and an Apple case for my X. I see no problem at that price point.

Also sold my 6s for $300, which therefore makes the X $245 so.

How ya like them apples!!!
 
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Shanghaichica said:
Well that’s not true the note 8 had a New design compared the the note 7. It also had new software guestures. Also I don’t think the note should loose points because the iPhone X implement features that the note has had for years like wireless charging, high resolution oled displays and facial recognition.
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This statement always triggers me cause FaceID is NOT the same thing as Android facial recognition. Not in the slightest. It uses completely different technology (merely face detection from the front facing camera) and is far less secure (it can even be tricked by a photograph). FaceID is brand new technology. Complete innovation. An OLED screen might be old hat be FaceID is revolutionary technology.
 
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j800r said:
This statement always triggers me cause FaceID is NOT the same thing as Android facial recognition. Not in the slightest. It uses completely different technology (merely face detection from the front facing camera) and is far less secure (it can even be tricked by a photograph). FaceID is brand new technology. Complete innovation. An OLED screen might be old hat be FaceID is revolutionary technology.
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Yes Face ID is better and does not use the same technology but the concept i.e using your face to unlock is not a new concept.
 
cbautis2 said:
FaceID is NOT brand new. It's 100% Windows Hello hardware from Intel Realsense (3D camera consisting of IR sensor, IR laser projector, etc) shrunk to the notch. Keep in mind that Apple just of course improves not innovates.

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-faceid-versus-microsoft-windows-hello-2017-10
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Show me a smartphone with “Windows Hello”

The FaceID is all new technology for smartphones. Compared to other smartphone face detection. You know full well that’s what I meant.
 
j800r said:
Show me a smartphone with “Windows Hello”

The FaceID is all new technology for smartphones. Compared to other smartphone face detection. You know full well that’s what I meant.
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Whatever your interpretation is it's up to you. As for me, it employs the same principle as Windows hello for laptops or Surface with Intel Realsense and Apple was the first one to cram the same hardware features to a smarphone that's all. To me that's not new technology, but an improvement on existing technology and definitely NOT revolutionary.
 
Relentless Power said:
When I read others who label the iPhone X a beta device, really what you're saying is is that it's a phone that you don't approve of To disparage against it. That's fine that you don't like the iPhone X for various reasons or don't want to support it, but it's not a beta device and the term is used out of context.
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I originally bought an 8 Plus because I thought the X was a beta device. However, I caved, returned the 8 Plus (which was still a very nice iPhone), and bought the X. Not a beta device at all, just a different concept.
 
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