iPhone X Vertical positioned camera lens vs iPhone 8 horizontal. Does it make a difference?

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  1. DBZmusicboy01 macrumors 6502a

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    Good question. I’m curious why they went out of their way to change its orientation.
     
  3. Infiniverse48 macrumors 6502a

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    It’s vertical for only one real reason:

    The internal space inside the device disallowed for it to be horizontal.

    A caveat however, is that it looks superior from an aesthetic standpoint because it follows the length:width ratio of the device itself more. However, the reason to change was internal space.
     
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    I could be wrong but I don’t think the choice to make it vertical on the X was for reasons of it being better or not (because it really does not matter.) I believe it was because of the TrueDepth sensors taking up most of the top of the phone internally. So the dual lens module could no longer be horizontal. Making it vertical gives room for the TrueDepth/front facing camera modules.
     
  5. ET3SW macrumors regular

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    No it does not make a difference. Think about it. You have a 8 plus with Horizontal cameras. Then you turn it landscape to take a video. Now your cameras are vertical
     
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    This makes sense.
     
  7. Ries macrumors 68020

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    So people know you have the X.
     
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    Nope, ARkit will work just as well on an 8 as it would on an X. VR would not make use of the cameras, at least not in any significant way.

    That’s why I was super confused this past year when the rumor mill kept stating that the vertical cameras were for AR/VR. Didn’t make much sense.
     
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    I hope it means it films in landscape when you're holding it in portrait... all those mass shooting videos in frigging portrait... I WANT TO SEE THEM IN DETAIL!!!!
     
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    But then the screen is in portrait whilst I'm filming in landscape. I WANT WHAT I'M FILMING TO FILL THE SCREEN!!!!
     
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    The configuration is ideally suited for holding the phone horizontally for close AR processing. Taking photos is unaffected, however the horizontal lensing provides better depth mapping in relation to determining planes (surfaces).
     
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    Where did you hear this?
     
  15. Infiniverse48 macrumors 6502a

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    The only reason it is better for AR is due to the fact that the cameras are about 1/8-1/4” further apart due to the flash being placed between them on the X which increases the depth sensing slightly. It is 100% factual they turned it vertically because it wouldn’t otherwise fit in the device. In 2018 or 2019 Apple will add rear-facing AR hardware to the iPhones akin to the sensors on the front for the ‘TrueDepth Camera’. This will give the computer vision and increase the AR capabilities profoundly.
     
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    Didn’t know you worked for Apple.

    If we’re taking our opinions and stating as facts: the real reason they changed it was they know landscape photography is better and more popular, so the change allows more room to grip the phone without blocking the camera.
     
  18. Infiniverse48 macrumors 6502a

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    You don’t need to work for Apple to know that it’s vertical for internal engineering reasons. In fact, you don’t need to work at all. In fact, you could be just entering the 5th grade and ascertain that all on your lonesome.
     
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    Also the X has the Neural Engine, which I believe, on top of it doing a lot of the legwork for the TrueDepth sensors it does play into AR too.
     
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    So you knew somehow way back during design, that they waited to lay the camera style until the rest of the hardware was in place? As opposed to, oh I don’t know, choosing to orient the camera that way and then fill in the hardware around it?

    Exactly. Don’t forget your opinions aren’t fact buddy.
     
  21. Infiniverse48 macrumors 6502a

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    Oh dear dear god.

    It’s not an opinion, it’s an objective fact. It’s reality. Please please understand this exceedingly simple fact: the iPhone X has sensors on the front top of the device that take all but about 1/4” between them and the edge of the device. Apple knew they couldn’t place the camera horizontally and therefore had to turn it to a vertical orientation, that’s the reality, deal with it.
     
  22. sk8mash macrumors 6502a

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    I’m sure there was something in the keynote about it being that way because most people take landscape photographs, but I can’t remember the reasoning behind it.
     
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    You clearly don’t understand the difference between an opinion and a fact. Until you do, I’m not going to waste my time.

    http://www.bmcc.cuny.edu/lrc/studyskills/factsandopinions.pdf
     
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    Believe what you want, but the person you quoted is right.
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    No there wasn’t. It wasn’t mentioned in the keynote, because it’s not a feature. It was an engineering choice because of other new hardware needing the top portion of the internals.
     
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    You work at Apple and know their decision process?

    The arrogance of some of these people sheesh... ridiculous ignorance.
     

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