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Acrophobiax

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So the iPhone XR has portrait mode on both the front and back, but it only has a single lens on the back, but it can do portrait mode? I didn’t really watch the keynote so I don’t know what’s going on. I was really hoping this feature could come to the iPhone 8 and 7.
 
Essentially the same thing Google has done with the Pixel2 and Pixel 2 XL... single lens camera, but still has Bokeh.

Also the Pixel were said to have the best camera on a smart phone..
 
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It uses the focus pixels to create a depth map using the single camera. Google Pixel has done it this way and it has been very effective. Many reviewers found Google's implementation to be the best working one.

Doing this with a single camera reduces parallax errors which is helpful to reduce weird issues like part of the hair being out of focus even though it's in the same focal plane.
 
It uses the focus pixels to create a depth map using the single camera. Google Pixel has done it this way and it has been very effective. Many reviewers found Google's implementation to be the best working one.

It does indeed work well on the Pixel 2. I don't even have to tap the subject or subjects on the screen. When the results aren't perfect you can still use the "portrait effect"-free version of the photo.

After snapping the photo it takes about 2 seconds for the AI or machine learning to work its magic on the photo. It does it in the background and has no effect on your ability to take more photos or use the phone for something.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Computational photography will blow your minds.

I haven't used my DSLRd or edited a photo since the got the Pixel 2. I'm glad Apple have followed in Google's footsteps and I could see myself getting an iPhone Max next year.
 
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It does indeed work well on the Pixel 2. I don't even have to tap the subject or subjects on the screen. When the results aren't perfect you can still use the "portrait effect"-free version of the photo.

After snapping the photo it takes about 2 seconds for the AI or machine learning to work its magic on the photo. It does it in the background and has no effect on your ability to take more photos or use the phone for something.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Computational photography will blow your minds.

I haven't used my DSLRd or edited a photo since the got the Pixel 2. I'm glad Apple have followed in Google's footsteps and I could see myself getting an iPhone Max next year.

Yes, I've seen the results. HDR+ is also amazing on the Pixel phones. Noise just disappears from low light photos (I have HDR+ on my Nexus 5X as well, but it's not as effective, and it's slow and even causes my phone to run out of RAM corrupting the images in the process).

Still, a phone can never replace my real camera system. Different lenses for different perspectives, long telephoto, 1:1 (or even closer) macro, and the creative abilities of a true 14-bit+ RAW file from a big sensor just can't be matched by any phone. Phones can also not replace lenses with shift ability, even though tilt can be somewhat simulated thanks to the small sensor and large depth of field at normal distances.

But for general everyday life photography phones do a great job these days. I just can't stand the wide angle perspective so I would have really liked the telephoto camera on the Xr. I would even have taken it over the wide angle if I had to choose. My most used lens on my mirrorless camera is the Fuji XF35 f1.4 (~50mm equivalent).

Portrait mode is a nice addition for sure, and it can be done really well with the single camera, but there's just something about turning that aperture ring to f1.4 and feel the mechanical shutter as the image is captured that has me reaching for the real camera even for everyday photography.
 
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Still, a phone can never replace my real camera system. Different lenses for different perspectives, long telephoto, 1:1 (or even closer) macro, and the creative abilities of a true 14-bit+ RAW file from a big sensor just can't be matched by any phone. Phones can also not replace lenses with shift ability, even though tilt can be somewhat simulated thanks to the small sensor and large depth of field at normal distances.

Yes. DSLR have big advantages. My other cameras are are Lumix LX3 with a Leica lens and a Fuji X10. All are great, but during day light the Pixel 2 simply gets better results and quicker with no post-production required. The latter is key in this era of instagram and instant sharing. With it dangling around my neck with a strap, all I had to do is grab the phone double tap the power button and use one of the volume buttons to snap.

What I do want is for computational photography to be built into DSLRs as my cameras.

I used my phone to snap the below one handed without having to tap the screen to focus. Unlike my with my cameras I didn't have to adjust white balance, colours and exposure afterwards.

This is using a phone that's a year old. The iPhone Xs/r and Pixel 3 will take computational photography to a higher level.





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I just can't stand the wide angle perspective so I would have really liked the telephoto camera on the Xr.

I agree. Two lenses: One wide and one telephoto would be handy. Hence why I'm likely to get the Max or wait for a three lens iPhone: One portrait, wide and telephoto. :D
 
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