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We dont know? Mmmmm Big screen plus small battery = crappy battery life............Its not that hard to understand
err that's some awful logic you have right there. You just pulled out screen time stat out of your behind with nothing to back it up.

The max is suppose to have hour, 30 mins more than the x? that will more than get you through a day and depending on your usage maybe longer. My x lasts me all day without fail and that's with a smaller battery.
 
We dont know? Mmmmm Big screen plus small battery = crappy battery life............Its not that hard to understand

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Posted this earlier. It all depends how you use the phone. MKBHD probably ran it at max screen brightness with very heavy usage. Expect closer to 9 hours if you're actually using it like a normal human being.
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For the last decade or so, every article about OLED display technology has said that it saves power vs. LCD. And yet, now that OLEDs are actually a thing, it's the opposite? I don't understand.

I thought OLED screens were more power efficient than LCDs because they don't require a backlight? This sounds like a crock.

OLED is more efficient because not every pixel needs to be turned on. The problems are:

  1. OLED screens consume more power than LED LCDs at bright settings, or max brightness. OLED consumes less power than LED LCDs at lower or minimum screen brightness.When you're in a bright environment, or there's a bright light or window behind you, which probably happens more often than you realise, the screen brightness maxes out.
  2. Websites and apps tend to have white backgrounds, which aren't optimal for OLED at all. LCD isn't affected by that.


Honestly, in a mix of lighting scenarios over a typical day or week, and with websites and apps NOT optimised for OLED screens, I think LCD uses considerably less power than OLED overall. Even if the Xs Max and Xr were equal size and resolution, this would be true for most people.

I really wouldn't be surprised if the Xr has a 15-20% battery advantage over the Xs Max, even with a smaller battery!! Why? Because it's LCD, there are fewer pixels to drive, it's slightly smaller, and there's no 3D Touch.
 
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size of the battery doesn't necessarily relate to battery life. If the power management is crap on the software side then a huge battery means nothing.
Yet the Note 9 still has better battery life than the XS Max which gets barely 4:30 hours of SOT.
 
Wow! Just more proof that buying the 7 Plus in 2016 was one of the best purchases I've ever made! 3GB of LPDDR4 and a 2900 mAH battery has proven to be somewhat future proof especially compared to the non plus 7 and 8.

At the same time, this only makes the XR even less attractive. The 8 Plus has telephoto with true portrait mode and "optical zoom", 3D Touch, the same amount of LPDDR4X RAM with just a slightly slower A11 CPU. It's probably the best value at $699. The only reason to get the XR is because you don't want to be seen with the old bezel design and want a phone that isn't black, white or gold.

I think those that currently have a X and want to "upgrade" to an XR are going to make a big mistake especially if you buy your phones outright. If you're financing or leasing and want to save money every month then that's understandable. I would not ditch a slightly slower version of the flagship for an inferior budget version that almost looks like a knockoff without the stainless steel.
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I think it will be, probably even more so with every new iOS update.

The 4GB RAM is a 33% increase.

It has to do more with the resolution. 3GB is plenty for the lower res on the XR. Still, Apple is being cheap and could've just hooked XR buyers with the extra gig. It's not like it costs a ton more.
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They've actually peaked, you just haven't realized it yet.

Marketing.

Apple peaked with the 7 Plus IMO. The A11 and A12 are faster but trivial in everyday use. There will be a difference in the most demanding 3D games but if you're not a mobile gamer then the difference is almost nothing. Apple knows that some customers will upgrade every year because they must have the newest phone to feel good about themselves. It is effective marketing. That's why I think the gold XS will sell a lot since it is the only thing that distinguishes the XS from the X.
 
Not impressed. Android phone has 4,000mAh battery at the same or lower price.
Everyone knows android phones are power hungry. You can’t go by battery capacity by itself. There are many other factors m, cpu clock speed, screen efficiency, software, etc.
 
Wow! Just more proof that buying the 7 Plus in 2016 was one of the best purchases I've ever made! 3GB of LPDDR4 and a 2900 mAH battery has proven to be somewhat future proof especially compared to the non plus 7 and 8.

At the same time, this only makes the XR even less attractive. The 8 Plus has telephoto with true portrait mode and "optical zoom", 3D Touch, the same amount of LPDDR4X RAM with just a slightly slower A11 CPU. It's probably the best value at $699. The only reason to get the XR is because you don't want to be seen with the old bezel design and want a phone that isn't black, white or gold.

I think those that currently have a X and want to "upgrade" to an XR are going to make a big mistake especially if you buy your phones outright. If you're financing or leasing and want to save money every month then that's understandable. I would not ditch a slightly slower version of the flagship for an inferior budget version that almost looks like a knockoff without the stainless steel.
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It has to do more with the resolution. 3GB is plenty for the lower res on the XR. Still, Apple is being cheap and could've just hooked XR buyers with the extra gig. It's not like it costs a ton more.
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Apple peaked with the 7 Plus IMO. The A11 and A12 are faster but trivial in everyday use. There will be a difference in the most demanding 3D games but if you're not a mobile gamer then the difference is almost nothing. Apple knows that some customers will upgrade every year because they must have the newest phone to feel good about themselves. It is effective marketing. That's why I think the gold XS will sell a lot since it is the only thing that distinguishes the XS from the X.

Nobody is upgrading from X to Xr.
 
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Had the 6 plus since launch and upgraded to the X last November.

Trust me you won’t be disappointed.

The size is perfect. Loved the plus, but the MAX trying to go edge to edge with one hand isn’t possible.
Yeah, I’ve seen people reviewing it who say it’s tough even with large hands. I have zero interest in that. The X/XS seems perfect for me.
 
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The iPhone had 2GB of RAM when the iPad Pro launched with 4GB of RAM. Now that the iPhone has 4GB of RAM, I'm wondering if the iPad Pro will have 8GB of RAM? Useful for having lots of layers in design files and working with large RAW files or keeping lots of apps loaded in the background while multitasking. But considering how efficient iOS is, 6GB would probably be fine for now and probably strikes a better battery life/performance balance.

They better step it up to at least 6 gb ram but I will also need the mouse support and display monitor support to even consider upgrading otherwise I keep the 10.5. I would love for the iPad pro to have something similar to Samsung DeX. If they can only switch between iOS and a simplified version of MacOS (similar to the windows 10 S version) it would be greAt.
 
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Also shocking news the display brightness has not improved in years.

It’s never really needed to to be honest. No matter how dark or bright sunlight there is I’ve never gone above 50% manually, the phone adjusts higher in bright sunlight. IPS LCD has fared very very well over the years and had better colour accuracy and readability in direct sunlight compared to the over contrast and high tint like nature is Samsung’s AMOLED that pretty much all androids changed to years ago.

Now Apple uses OLED much more improved (I resisted it for a while to be honest) screen that has advantages of both.

Curious when have you ever needed an iPhone screen to be brighter than it can go? (Besides flashlights).
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The RAM on the phones is inside the SoC. So Apple have to have a separate part for the Xr. Does this really save money? I suspect this is a move to have the Xr become laggy with future OS releases.

Ram is on the motherboard not within the SoC. Only cache is within the SoC. It’s been this way for years - even the desktop and laptop PCs. If full RAM was internal to the SoC above 1GB it would be VERY expensive and complicated to manuafacture - especially with faulty dies during R&D or production. You would not be able to recover the RAM.

I would like to see data that RAM is on the SoC for iPhone X/XS/XS Max honestly :)
 
For the last decade or so, every article about OLED display technology has said that it saves power vs. LCD. And yet, now that OLEDs are actually a thing, it's the opposite? I don't understand.

The XR has a LCD display with the same pixel density as the 8 year old iPhone 4, whereas the XS's OLED display is built to modern standards
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It’s not as simple as battery size. Other things matter like software and hardware optimisation.

It is as simple as the iPhone would run longer if Apple bothered to put a bigger battery in

It is as simple as Apple puts the cheapest battery it can get away with in the iPhone
 
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Android is for people who can't afford a real phone.

Not the kind of attitude that should be worthy of anyone in today’s society. It’s a damn product not an 1%’ers trophy right of passage for a member of a secret society. Lol, wow ... I actually never thought I’d read something like this on these boards. I hope I or others don’t see it again.

Is this what is becoming of the wealthy Apple users or members here; representative of the brand or user base??
 
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Not the kind of attitude that should be worthy of anyone in today’s society. It’s a damn product not an 1%’ers trophy right of passage for a member of a secret society. Lol, wow ... I actually never thought I’d read something like this on these boards. I hope I or others don’t see it again.

Is this what is becoming of the wealthy Apple users or members here; representative of the brand or user base??
The note 9 is expensive. You can get any phone you want from your carrier. Definitely not any kind of status symbol where I live. People who are on unemployment benefits have iPhones here.
 
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They better step it up to at least 6 gb ram but I will also need the mouse support and display monitor support to even consider upgrading otherwise I keep the 10.5. I would love for the iPad pro to have something similar to Samsung DeX. If they can only switch between iOS and a simplified version of MacOS (similar to the windows 10 S version) it would be greAt.
I don’t think it will get mouse support but rumours are pointing towards support for out putting to 4K displays.
 
The note needs a bigger battery because android is inherently less efficient, and the Qualcomm processors need to be revved to higher clock speeds to achieve (not even) equivalent performance. Samsung found space for the bigger battery by leaving out some things. Like attention to detail, good taste, and love.
LoL, that's one of the most absurd things I've heard.
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Yes, I am sniffing at it. It's stupid, it's an edge case, it's of little use to anyone, and it's hardly worth compromising the device for everyone else so that you can brag about a stupid capability nobody will ever use. The space that the card slot takes up is space that can't be used for other things. It's another source for liquid entry. It's creates all sorts of complications. If you want to use a card, use the lightning adapter, and don't saddle the rest of us with the burdens imposed by your useless demands.
It's obvious you don't understand how SD cards in phones work and what are their advantages.
Most android smartphones have hybrid slots so the SD card doesn't create another source for liquid entry or all sorts of complications(whatever that means).
Also you said the space occupied by the SD card can't be used by something else. Like what? I bet you can't give any plausible example.
 
Not the kind of attitude that should be worthy of anyone in today’s society. It’s a damn product not an 1%’ers trophy right of passage for a member of a secret society. Lol, wow ... I actually never thought I’d read something like this on these boards. I hope I or others don’t see it again.

Is this what is becoming of the wealthy Apple users or members here; representative of the brand or user base??

Exactly. Most people who are phone geeks don't buy Android phones because they are cheap or they can't afford an iPhone --they buy one because it actually gives them freedom customize, at will, a device they have paid for. iPhones are like the 1984 of cell phones.
 
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