Never owned or seen a p20 Pro but my uncle has a p20. I was not impressed with the pictures. They looked washed out and over processed. However maybe you need to tweak the settings and he hasn’t. He’s a point and shoot person.Owned the "Huawei P20 Pro" and am glad I got rid of it - GREAT hardware (1/1,7" sensor size) paired with terrible software.
Perhaps the Mate 20 (pro) which will be released in a few weeks, has ironed out those software shortcomings. It will come on Android Pie (9).
According to leaks, the iPhone XS scores 104 on Dxomark, and it will be beaten by Sony XZ2 Premium, Pixel 3, P20 Pro and Mate 20 and Mate 20 Pro.
Thoughts?
Honestly I have yet to call an overall winner between my two phones, but below are my personal observations. For whatever its worth, I still prefer my DSLR for regular shooting, but do find these phones are great tools at times.
Portrait Mode = ⅔ Pixel
The Pixel can handle a wider array of items than the iPhone overall, however when the iPhone nails the shot, it is really no dispute IMO. Where the iPhone struggles is with translucent, or narrow items. When it does get the shot correct, the out of focus effect appears to be much more realistic to what a wide open lens will do.
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To be honest, I like the iPhone's shot of the leaves a bit better as it is doing a little more of what an Actual wide aperture lens would do. Focus would fall off quite quick on my sigma 1.4 when shooting this same scene wide open. The Pixel keeps most of the leaves in true focus, which isn't true to life. Where the iPhone continues to struggle is with narrow or translucent objects near your focal point as seen with the bars in the top portrait shot. Neither compare to a true wide aperture picture as taken on Film, mirrorless or a DSLR though.
Video = iPhone Xs Max
The auto exposure on the new phone does far better than the 2017 X did at adjusting from dark to light. The phone also has less jittery video when OIS is needed, or when panning. Stereo audio recording also puts this phone in an entirely different league. I am ashamed it took Apple this long to record stereo audio considering they have had dual Mics since the iPhone 4! No excuse for any phone to lack it for the past 5 years IMO.
Zoomed images
Anytime you need to go to 2X zoom I feel the iPhone is superior since it does this optically, as opposed to cropping. Don't get me wrong, the pixel's shots still look amazing at face value, it's when you crop in or do larger prints that it sheds light on this issue.
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In both cases the 100% crops look more like paintings than true images, however you can see more of a Picasso effect in the Pixel 2.
Undecided
Low light photos, areas with vast lighting differences, meaning low light, bright light in the same scene. Pixel is sometimes too dark, and the iPhone sometimes brings up shadows far too much.
Storage = Pixel 2
Unlimited full resolution photo cloud storage.. No contest here. Come on Apple, you are the richest company in the world, why aren't you matching this?!?
Let us be real now. The Pixel 2 is / was, far from a perfect device.
Personally I am on my 2nd device as I had a hardware fault that would cause the phone to crash / power down when running graphics intensive tasks. IIRC there was other user or two here on MacRumors with a similar issue.
And then there was this Camera problem with many phones
Than an update that caused annoying buzzing and hot phones.
What about lagging / slow phones.
And an Audio recording issue, which for some of us (including myself) results in a now much less useful mic (everything sounds muted).
So no, the Pixel wasn't without problems, and the XL screens were not the only phones with this problem.
The rear camera is but 1 critical aspect of a smartphone. If you are buying a phone based solely on the camera, or camera first, then you are a fraction of a percent of buyers. Most could not care less about these scores or know what they mean.
And when there are allegations of pay to play where you can hire DXo to tell you how to tweak your properties to score higher in their tests, the weight of those scores means a heck of a lot less.
According to leaks, the iPhone XS scores 104 on Dxomark, and it will be beaten by Sony XZ2 Premium, Pixel 3, P20 Pro and Mate 20 and Mate 20 Pro.
Thoughts?
I just checked DxOs site and can't find the same scores the OP did. The official scores won't be out until October.
But just because your phone of choice doesn't attain the highest scores doesn't mean it is not a great phone.
Enjoy what you have and move on......
Casting shade on DxO just comes across as sour grapes....
Yes but pixel owners don’t really have anything, else.
It's a "leak" if it's even real for phones not out.
And it's not "sour grapes" Look it up. It's well known you can pay DxO to help you tweak your phone, obviously in an effort to obtain high scores. Oneplus has done it on the Oneplus 5. '
Facts dont create sour grapes.
"Nevertheless, manufacturers can hire them for consulting and seminar services probably like OnePlus did for the OnePlus 5. They can also buy its modular lab configuration tool called the DxO Analyzer to calculate the rating on their own."
If you can pay to get the testing outlet to help you tweak your processing solely to improve your score, and buy their testing software in advance to calibrate solely to their test, how credible are the results of said test?
i am more concerned about the practicality then the credibility of these ratings. Not sure if they were published, but i have no idea how the score is weighted. In all honesty, factors like bokeh, zoom, flash, are going to matter a lot less for most people. This is also potentially (at least partially) why many people prefers the pixel 2 than say a P20 pro despite a lower rating.
another problem is how big a difference is that score really? like 106 vs 100. a 6% difference or not noticeable by eye?
but facts....are based on credible sources...... do you have credible sources that all of the phones listed in the top tier paid for the high marks?It's a "leak" if it's even real for phones not out.
And it's not "sour grapes" Look it up. It's well known you can pay DxO to help you tweak your phone, obviously in an effort to obtain high scores. Oneplus has done it on the Oneplus 5. '
Facts dont create sour grapes.
"Nevertheless, manufacturers can hire them for consulting and seminar services probably like OnePlus did for the OnePlus 5. They can also buy its modular lab configuration tool called the DxO Analyzer to calculate the rating on their own."
If you can pay to get the testing outlet to help you tweak your processing solely to improve your score, and buy their testing software in advance to calibrate solely to their test, how credible are the results of said test?
but facts....are based on credible sources...... do you have credible sources that all of the phones listed in the top tier paid for the high marks?
But you cannot discount the eye test which is against DxO as well in my book when you can hire the test proctor to tutor you and get the answer key showing how things are scored before the test.
either way this is fake news. some of those phones on top haven't even been announced yet so i'm not sure how they were already tested.....
wait...so if I disagree with you then you attack me?You must be incredibly naive then and also believe politicians get rich to the tune of millions or tens of millions on their $200k-ish salaries instead of greased palms from lobbyists and special interest groups, just because you can't see it happen in person.
Just because specifics aren't public information doesn't mean it doesnt happen. And to believe only someone tiny like OnePlus did so and none of the "big boys" is incredibly naive too.
Or that those "honest" manufacturers cannot manage their image processing having access to the test software when multiple manufacturers have been caught tricking benchmark scores.
From Androidcentral (so BOTH sides of the OS war saying the same thing to be skeptical):
"Like a wily student preparing for a standardized test, manufacturers who partner with DxO, and get access to its hardware and software, can tune their image processing to ace the firm's synthetic tests (within the limits of the hardware, of course). As a result, their review scores are higher when DxO eventually publishes them — because they've had access to the testing hardware all along. Manufacturers who don't partner with DxO are at an automatic disadvantage in terms of their score, even though real-world, outside-of-the-lab image quality might not be substantially worse. When that happens, as it is bound to, consumers who put faith in comparisons between scores from partners and non-partners are potentially misled.
That's how we end up with scores that tell you the Moto G4 Plus is as good as the LG G6, which is worse than the OnePlus 5.
And that's where the potential conflict of interest arises. Partner with DxO, and your phone has the opportunity to max out its eventual review score — and if it's a new flagship phone, maybe steal the crown with a new high score. Manufacturers who don't license DxO's stuff compete on an uneven playing field."
There have been many discussions about the integrity of dxo for many years. Frankly dxo is one data point, there are many other data points.I just checked DxOs site and can't find the same scores the OP did. The official scores won't be out until October.
But just because your phone of choice doesn't attain the highest scores doesn't mean it is not a great phone.
Enjoy what you have and move on......
Casting shade on DxO just comes across as sour grapes....
I agree.....but talk is not facts......There have been many discussions about the integrity of dxo for many years. Frankly dxo is one data point, there are many other data points.