All I know is that Apple better wow me with iPhone OS 4.0/iPhone 4G or I'm jumping ship to the first Android phone for AT&T.
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iPhone's Share of Smartphone Market Slips in Fourth Quarter of 2009
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Sounds like microsoft.. Sat back on their lorrals and then realized they had to do something ( i.e., internet explorer ).
Personally, unlike most of you guys I held out for the 3GS and honestly besides video chat and multitasking, I'm not sure what else it needs. It does everything pretty well and the app store is nice too.
I expect Apple to address the multitasking issue by releasing mobile iChat and their own streaming Internet radio app and/or streaming iTunes library app. (that's what the Lala acquisition was for...). Also, it may not happen but Google's free Navigation app will probably be released unless Apple does their own custom App.
They still won't let third party apps run in the background but these two or three new apps will fill most of the gap for what most people want multitasking for and the rest will just use save states and notifications.
It sounds like a good compromise to me but if it comes to pass expect the forums and tech writers to be all up in arms...
I expect Apple to address the multitasking issue by releasing mobile iChat and their own streaming Internet radio app and/or streaming iTunes library app. (that's what the Lala acquisition was for...). Also, it may not happen but Google's free Navigation app will probably be released unless Apple does their own custom App.
They still won't let third party apps run in the background but these two or three new apps will fill most of the gap for what most people want multitasking for and the rest will just use save states and notifications.
It sounds like a good compromise to me but if it comes to pass expect the forums and tech writers to be all up in arms...
iPhone Software
Phone- Show location call is coming from while phone is ringing
Use iMovie 3D maps animation to pinpoint location call is
coming from
Ability to record calls with legal disclaimers
Ability to transfer calls
Ability to change voice with legal disclaimers
Hold music/audio/clip can play when hold is pressed
Settings- On, Off, Vibrate then ring, ring then vibrate options instead
of on/off toggle
Repeating alert for missed calls
SMS custom tones
Messages- Time stamp for every message
Way to cancel outgoing messages
Emoji enabled by default
Character counter
Phone App- Way to remove individual missed calls
Way to forward voice messages
Way to save voice messages to iTunes or similar
Ability set custom voicemail recordings and ringback tones based on caller and time in app
Ability to select (custom) hold music/audio/clip based on caller
Calendar- Week view
Ability to change the calendar an event is on after it has
been created
Clock- Alarm clock mode
Ability to set different volume for alarms than music
volume (e.g. falling asleep to low volume music and have
the volume high for the alarm ringer)
Contacts- Coverflow
Album view
Lock Screen- Password or passcode options
Display name of phone
Information @ at a glance; summary
Home screen- Landscape ability (3.2...)
Notes/Mail- In C,C,P pop-up include Style, Size, Font, Color options
Dual pane mail in portrait mode
Other- Ability to turn off, stop, or freeze accelerometer
Ability to record video screencasts
Ability to screen share/remotely control other iPhones
Notification bar improvements
Notification improvements
Allowance of other apps to use iPod/headset controls
Multitasking ability based on existing dock
Glass appearance of dock
Allow custom backgrounds (coming in 3.2...)
Built in iChat
Video ringtones (that can be customized for callers/groups)
iPod- Tags
Subgenres
Synchronized Lyrics
Auto EQ based on genre
Multi-Artist support (songs can be listed under multiple artists)
iPhone Hardware
Higher MP rear-facing camera with flash and zoom
Front-facing camera
Fingerprint reader
Solar panel
Projector
Bluetooth 3.0
USB 3.0
OLED
Matte backing, color options
Indicator light(s) around home button and power button
N wireless
Faster 3G/4G/WiMax
NFC/RFID
TV tuner with app
FM/HD radio with app
FM transmitter
Wireless charging capability
Stereo speakers
IR with universal remote app
Remind me of the days where O2 would charge me something like £2 per minute for video
Wow that's some list. I'm unaware of any competing phone that has all of those features although I do realize that some of them have some of those features.
We may get some of that stuff in the future but honestly if all of it were added the "feature creep" would just make the device more complicated and general users would turn to other alternatives. In other words, I don't think most users want all that complexity. Even if people who read online tech forums do...
I will say though that for sure RFIDs are coming to the iPhone if not this year then next year. I forgot about that...
My jailbroken 3GS does what I need it to do. So the only way I would purchase the new iphone would be if it had ichat available over 3G.
Anything short of it, I'm getting an android.
Anything short of it, I'm getting an android.
I love competitive prices because its good for the average consumers like us. We spend the most money on the iphone with its ridiculous data plan. So i am hoping that other phone manufacturer will continue to developed phone that could compete with the iphone too the keep prices low, because i want the new 4G Iphone too.
I pray to any and all gods that joeshell is trying to be sarcastic. You throw all of that into a phone in June and you have a $1,500 phone.
USB 3: Because everybody has a USB 3 port
Bluetooth 3: I didn't know it existed before two seconds ago, and why stop with Bluetooth 4 is ready?
4G/WiMax: You want to include a battery-sucking 4G radio for a network with zero nodes on AT&T and only available in four cities on Sprint? How's this going to affect battery life?
HD radio, stereo speakers, OLED, front-facing camera, fingerprint reader, solar panels: You forgot to add a flux capacitor
USB 3: Because everybody has a USB 3 port
Bluetooth 3: I didn't know it existed before two seconds ago, and why stop with Bluetooth 4 is ready?
4G/WiMax: You want to include a battery-sucking 4G radio for a network with zero nodes on AT&T and only available in four cities on Sprint? How's this going to affect battery life?
HD radio, stereo speakers, OLED, front-facing camera, fingerprint reader, solar panels: You forgot to add a flux capacitor
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The competition is getting stronger with every new release but I can't help feeling that Apple will have an awesome product with the next update.
I'm wondering how long all models will continue to get updates tho. Trying to cater to the older devices could hold them back but anythjng too radical in the next model could drive a wedge between the older models and the latest ones app wise.
The competition is getting stronger with every new release but I can't help feeling that Apple will have an awesome product with the next update.
I'm wondering how long all models will continue to get updates tho. Trying to cater to the older devices could hold them back but anythjng too radical in the next model could drive a wedge between the older models and the latest ones app wise.
More importantly it's time for them to expand the range of models. They seem to be forgetting that fashion is much more of a factor with mobile phones than it is with computers. Some people go through 3-4 phones a year, as if they were sneakers. The iPhone is just one model, the design has barely changed -- we had the aluminum version for one year, the plastic one for one year and then an identical plastic exterior for year three. It's old hat, the charm of novelty has been totally erased -- nobody wants to see your new phone if it's an iPhone and nobody wants to see your stupid magnetometer show-off apps anymore. This of course doesn't mean sh*t to those of us who outgrew that schoolyard crap decades ago, our criteria are more or less strictly utilitarian, but insecure kids who buy gadgets for the cool factor make up a surprisingly large chunk of the buyers. Apple addressed that on the iPod front by releasing tons of different models in a wide range of colors, and they updated them so fast nobody could keep up. But the iPod still got old. If Apple wants to secure more iPhone customers beyond the mature/utilitarian ones, they'd better act soon.It's time for Apple to shorten the upgrade cycle.
Do it soon, I'm now out of contract and there's no way I'm upgrading to the 3GS knowing there's a new model on the way.
"This of course doesn't mean sh*t to those of us who outgrew that schoolyard crap decades ago"
Didn't outgrow the schoolyard language, though.
"If Apple wants to secure more iPhone customers beyond the mature/utilitarian ones, they'd better act soon."
"More importantly it's time for them to expand the range of models."
I'd like to suggest a little modesty in the proclamations --- some language like, "I think it would be a good idea" or "Maybe...." or "I'd like...." Especially considering how incredibly well the iPhone is doing.
Didn't outgrow the schoolyard language, though.
"If Apple wants to secure more iPhone customers beyond the mature/utilitarian ones, they'd better act soon."
"More importantly it's time for them to expand the range of models."
I'd like to suggest a little modesty in the proclamations --- some language like, "I think it would be a good idea" or "Maybe...." or "I'd like...." Especially considering how incredibly well the iPhone is doing.
Apple market share slippy tell me one thing. Apple has reach its saturation point in the market. It is not really go gain much more market share and mostly its growth in units sold will be that of the pass with growth of the smart phone market.
Honestly as more players move into the smart phone market I expect apple's market share to fall as Android moves in to take some. I expect windows mobile 7 to take some market share away from apple.
Now I am not saying windows mobile 7 is better than apple but WM market share has fallen so much it can really only go one direction. RIM, Nokia and Apple all stand to loss market share as those 3 are all sitting around their saturation points.
Honestly as more players move into the smart phone market I expect apple's market share to fall as Android moves in to take some. I expect windows mobile 7 to take some market share away from apple.
Now I am not saying windows mobile 7 is better than apple but WM market share has fallen so much it can really only go one direction. RIM, Nokia and Apple all stand to loss market share as those 3 are all sitting around their saturation points.
+1.. I too was a devoted iPhone 3G owner. I was initially very impressed with iTunes compatibilty, screen, user interface..etc. Over time I got sick of how Apple locks down the phone (big brother attitude). So I jailbreak the phone, etc...But..still.
I had a chance to played with the Verizon Motorola Droid and never looked back. I paid early cancellation fees and couldn't be happier with Verizon's coverage/signal strength and Android...WOW!
The ability to multi-task, run programs (reminders in the background) opens up a world of cool programs and productivity. The ability to customize the phone! External memory card, Open source, physical keyboard, design...wow! You load what you want, no need to 'ask' permission from iTunes.
With external memory card, I can backup any applicaton and/or data to the card. If the phone craps, all my data is intact. When my iphone crapped out, I have to get another iPhone and use iTunes to restore. Otherwise, my data is 'backed up' but I can't get to it!
I wouldn't call iPhone / Smartphone market saturated, Apple are constraining themselves artificially.
There's plenty of ways to get more sales:
(1) offer the phone to ALL carriers unconditionally in markets where they currently do not
(2) When you buy the iPhone outright, you get the phone sim unlocked ( currently, iPhone SIM locked ) - for frequent travellers - sim locked phone is PITA - no one wants to pay rip-off roaming charges if avoidable
(3) Create iPhone models for other GSM / 3G Frequencies ( i.e., 1700 )
(4) maybe create a CDMA version of the iPhone ( but whats the point? a very very small minority of the world actually use CDMA - and is dying due to HSPA+ )
perhaps it's the other way around?
Nope, review Q4 2009 smartphone marketshare statistics.
I fully expect Apple's marketshare to increase when iPhone 4 is released.
iphone has plenty of room in the market.. most people I talk to want one.. price is the issue.. this network cost comes down and a subsidized phone plan to take it to $50/month with phone (here in Canada).. right now its around $80 isn't it? Once it competes with normal phone plans combined with lowing network costs, the adoption will be massive. The price point is limiting adoption and apple can make $$$ from software so I'm sure we'll see a price drop
Flux capacitor LMAO. He also forgot nuclear battery to supplement the solar panel, teleportation, hadron collider, and gestures for jump to light speed.