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So do you use iPhoto Buddy to do that? Not sure exactly how that works, but I could easily do one for each year, I suppose, to split it up into more manageable chunks of data. Would that work, ya think? I have 11000+ over the course of about 5 years...should I split them up that small? I also have tons of digital scrapbooking stuff that I've collected, 24+ GB, 13000+ files, plus another 24GB, 6000+ files of my own digital scrapbooking kits I've designed. I guess I need to split that all up into different libraries as well? If I use keywords, will it search all the libraries for that keyword or do I have to choose only one?

Thanks for the help, I know if I can just do it right the first time, it'll be great!

ETA: Sorry, just clicked on the link and saw you linked to iPhoto Library Manager, which is essentially the same is iPhoto Buddy, right?
 
when you want to link iphoto to a different location, just hold down alt when you click on the icon in the dock, and then it will ask you to select a file
 
Well, the verdict is in and there is apparently nothing wrong with the machine...so I'll be spending some time on this, but it won't be until next week because I have an exam and project due on Monday. Anyway, I'm sure I'll be asking for more advice so please share anything you feel may be relevant! I'll be starting clean with a reinstalled OS so I'd like to do it all right the first time.

Thanks so much!
 
Well, the verdict is in and there is apparently nothing wrong with the machine...so I'll be spending some time on this, but it won't be until next week because I have an exam and project due on Monday. Anyway, I'm sure I'll be asking for more advice so please share anything you feel may be relevant! I'll be starting clean with a reinstalled OS so I'd like to do it all right the first time.

Thanks so much!

glad to see you are hanging in there. the last few posts have some great info on things to try. keep us posted.
 
I am really hopeful that when you do a reinstall of the OS that this will clear up a lot of your problems. I have had that work for me in the past when I had a problem I couldn't figure out and nothing else would work. I wish I had some sage advice for you or another potential solution short of a reinstall, but I don't. Good luck and I am glad you are not giving up.:)
 
Okay, I've reinstalled the OS, updated all the software and mounted the drive. Now, I'm thinking seriously about following the suggestions here and partitioning the external drive...and even possibly formatting it to the mac format. Let me ask, though, if I have something on that disk and need to get it off to work on a PC, can I save it to my Firefly or even a CD or flash drive and then use it on a PC? It's not the file format, its the disk format, right?

Off to do more cleaning and wait for you guys to answer yet another question for me :) . Oh, and BTW, is there an easy way to partition the drive? Or not necessarily easy, but a step by step I can follow to do it? It's 250GB, so how many partitions do you recommend? I could keep some space on here formatted to FAT32 just in case I really needed something I could easily go back and forth with. I'm thinking on my Photos, I'll end up putting them on CDs or DVDs anyway, so as long as I can read those CDs on a PC, I'll be okay.

Thanks again!
 
Burning a file to a CD should cause no problem transporting a file to a PC...but do a test first before you erase all of the files from the hard drive to make sure they are there and that the PC can see them.
 
FWIW (not that it really lines up with what you want to do, but what the heck), I have an external 250GB drive that I have formatted into three partitions:

#1 -- used to backup a MacBook Pro laptop - a 100GB partition formatted as Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
#2 -- used to backup another MBP - a 100GB partition formatted as Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
#3 -- used to copy stuff between Windows machines - a 32.89GB (that's the space left over after the first two partitions) formatted as MS-DOS File System

I haven't seen a step-by-step "how to partition with Disk Utility guide". Maybe someone else has and will reply. :)
 

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Thanks, guys, I got it. I formatted it into a 200GB section and a 32.89 GB section, the first as the Mac OS Extended and the second as FAT32. I copied all my photos over to the Mac OS Extended section, but they are also still on my old NTFS drive and I will probably continue to use it as a backup, by copying them to my portable and then to it with a Windows machine.

I also left my PC running because, as someone said, a network inside the house is pretty quick and all my digital scrapbooking kits are there. I can easily access them from the Mac and not fill up the new external drive with the old kits.

So, it's going better...now, I just need to learn to think in Mac while I'm working on it rather than thinking in PC and trying to translate :) . But that will come in time, I'm sure.

Thanks for everything!
 
Thanks, guys, I got it. I formatted it into a 200GB section and a 32.89 GB section, the first as the Mac OS Extended and the second as FAT32. I copied all my photos over to the Mac OS Extended section, but they are also still on my old NTFS drive and I will probably continue to use it as a backup, by copying them to my portable and then to it with a Windows machine.

I also left my PC running because, as someone said, a network inside the house is pretty quick and all my digital scrapbooking kits are there. I can easily access them from the Mac and not fill up the new external drive with the old kits.

So, it's going better...now, I just need to learn to think in Mac while I'm working on it rather than thinking in PC and trying to translate :) . But that will come in time, I'm sure.

Thanks for everything!

thanks for keeping us updated. sorry again for jumping all over you.

after a short while, you'll think so much like mac, that you will be successfully assimilated and will say what i often find myself saying, "why didn't i go mac sooner????" :)
 
No problem, Keebler :) .

Problem is, I work on a PC, I learn on a PC...but I PLAY on a Mac...hey, that sounds like a great signature, huh ;) ? Anyway, the ration of work and learn time to play time is pretty high. But yes, I'll get it and then once I have a degree and get out into the real world, I'll just go convert my employer!
 
So do you use iPhoto Buddy to do that? Not sure exactly how that works, but I could easily do one for each year, I suppose, to split it up into more manageable chunks of data. Would that work, ya think? I have 11000+ over the course of about 5 years...should I split them up that small? I also have tons of digital scrapbooking stuff that I've collected, 24+ GB, 13000+ files, plus another 24GB, 6000+ files of my own digital scrapbooking kits I've designed. I guess I need to split that all up into different libraries as well? If I use keywords, will it search all the libraries for that keyword or do I have to choose only one?

Thanks for the help, I know if I can just do it right the first time, it'll be great!

ETA: Sorry, just clicked on the link and saw you linked to iPhoto Library Manager, which is essentially the same is iPhoto Buddy, right?

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Actually external drive all have some kind of chipsets. some works better some aren't. in both windows/mac using usb2.0 is really a bad choice, since 480mbps isn't really a stable speed at all, the top speed you are probably going to get from a windows xp is probably around 13mb/s (about). And sometimes a large volume of data is passing through the usb core, it really depend on how long your usb wires goes, or what chip was in the external closure. From my experiences, if you plug through usb hubs (which also has chipsets on it's own) you will even have more problems.

From my experiences, old chip buffalo chip on usb2/firewire box, there were 2 generations. first, crash often in Windows or after a large amount of traffic it will quit on you, but not in the mac. However, the newer chip works more stable in windows, but mac could be mix feeling. For example, since windows notify you every action, you probably realized your usb HD sometimes quit by itself and re-plug in by itself as well. That's when the usb wasn't too stable or overheated. (or simply you have too much usb devices accessing resource at once, windows couldn't handle it). Or you probably getting the error like "delay write back to ...." that means even your hard drive isn't un-pluged, it was overwhelmed by the traffice, so winxp will try to reconnect the device.

However, on the mac, simple enough, it won't notify you all these.. it just keeps trying to connect at top speed as it can. if it connects, it has an icon, if it has a delay, the icon still appears, but system will try to reconnect by itself asap without notify you. Not until the system can no longer accessing your hard drive, then you will have the error message. (GOOD HUH?)

as for you.. you might have several problems.

1. if you are using external closer that has chipsets, you might facing problems by mounting it on the osx but not winxp (since most of them were built and tested under windows anyway). The solution to this problem is to get a different HD box.
2. if your external HD was on the network, network traffic might cause problem too.. especially when you are using wireless, constantly you might get disconnect problem.
3. if your file system has problem (not always in windows), osx might have problems writing back on the NTFS like most of the linux box. FAT32 might also have problems for long file name or large file size.
4. most likely your problem is the wrong location for image files under iphoto (rebuild the database if that solve your problem).

From my personal experiences, fat32 often do not create problem since nothing is larger than 4G in size. However, the chipset of the external box might have a lot to do with disconnect, instability, and malfunction. Try different box if you can.

Also, like what rest of people suggested, try to move the iphoto library by the tips, not just drag over.

And yes.. even large file take a long time to process through the pipeline.. The disconnect can cause by long usb core, instable wifi connection and all that. to conclude, try to use firewire instead of usb2.0. And trust me, usb2.0 device isn't any cheaper than firewire. Firewire is more stable and cheaper to make in manufacture. USB2.0 is good because most of the motherboard in PC built in that. However, firewire might or might not require a pci interface card to activate, that's why most of people didn't want to have firewire. In reality, firewire works way better than usb2.0 in any aspects. (when I have a box with both firewire/usb, i connect usb2.0 to my windows xp, and use firewire for the mac, it works flawless. But if you try to use usb/firewire in xp, both may cause problem once a while. if you use usb on mac, it disconnect more often than firewire).
 
I hate iPhoto. I just hate it. Today, when I tried to open the smallest of my libraries, I have white dashed outlines instead of thumbnails. If I click on one, it shows me the photo, but I don't have a thumbnail. Of course, the local Apple retailer blames iPhoto Buddy. He suggested rebuilding the thumbnail cache, which didn't work. I'm so close to giving my kids this big investment I made in the Mac Mini and going back to a PC. Sorry, I know some of you will not like that I have said that, but seriously, I have had problem after problem with something that was supposed to make my life easier, so I thought.

vent over...
 
I hate iPhoto. I just hate it. Today, when I tried to open the smallest of my libraries, I have white dashed outlines instead of thumbnails. If I click on one, it shows me the photo, but I don't have a thumbnail. Of course, the local Apple retailer blames iPhoto Buddy. He suggested rebuilding the thumbnail cache, which didn't work. I'm so close to giving my kids this big investment I made in the Mac Mini and going back to a PC. Sorry, I know some of you will not like that I have said that, but seriously, I have had problem after problem with something that was supposed to make my life easier, so I thought.

vent over...

Sorry to hear that! actually nothing in windows comes close to iphoto. Maybe picasa2. But picasa2 never let you to have offline photos. if you try to build something that's "External", once the map drive or plug isn't plug in, the entire photo "database" will be deleted automatically. That's even worse than iphoto though.
 
I never used anything but Windows' file system to organize my files and photos on a PC. I guess I can just use finder, but one of the reasons I bought the Mac is because it was supposed to simplify. I love the ease of printing photos out of iPhoto, but I can't import them all in there just on the off chance I want to print them. I'm just frustrated because this just hasn't worked out like I expected it to.
 
I never used anything but Windows' file system to organize my files and photos on a PC.
After reading through this thread, I would suggest the following.

Do not try to use the Mac like you would the PC. Both systems have their own approach to doing things. Generally, the Mac tends to want to take care of the details for you while the PC requires more detail.

So sometimes it is useful to just put your PC Mind on the shelf and develop a new Mac mind.

FWIW, I use both platforms every day. I've found that it is easiest to approach things this way.
 
The drives do not have firewire capability. I knew when I switched to Mac I'd have to buy some new software, but I didn't know my hardware would also be an issue. I am a student with two small children and can't afford to spend thousands of dollars to switch to Mac. I have a perfectly good harddrive that is formatted FAT32 already and I need that because I still have 3 PCs I have to use. I'm okay with losing the NTFS one, that's fine. That's not the one I'm having an issue with now, it's the FAT32 one which should work, from what I've been told here.

Keebler, no need to be ugly or accusatory here. I DO know what I'm doing on a PC and have never had trouble like I'm having with this machine. I do not intend to tell anyone that Macs suck, nor did I say that here. I simply said this isn't working for me. I did try to put the photos into iPhoto directly from the external just like it said to in a tutorial I found. It kept telling me it couldn't find the volume where the photos were located, though I browsed to that drive to tell it to import them and I could see it on my desktop. Choking is not an issue. I walked away for 2 hours while it copied them from the NTFS drive to the FAT32 one and I didn't have a problem with that at all, I know that's a lot of data to move. That's fine. But when I kept getting that error with every single photo and then the thing wouldn't even let me force quit because it just kept shoving that error message in my face, I had to power it down twice.

I have always kept my photos on an external and never had any problem. I got the mini with the 60GB drive with the intention of using the external for storage. I told them this at the Apple store when I bought it. Never was I advised that it might be a problem, never was it mentioned that USB wasn't good enough for transferring data to a mac, nor was it mentioned that there might be a file format problem. They knew I was moving from PC, shouldn't I have been told these things? Perhaps had I been able to make a more informed decision on what to buy, I'd be happier with my mac.

Lastly, repeatedly, the drives have not mounted and I am not even able to see them in finder. I've had to plug and unplug them, power them, power the machine down, etc... to finally get it to see the drives. Then, the worst part is, when I unplugged them, I got that message telling me I should have ejected them first, but I can't eject them if I can't see them.

So, over and over I've had issues with these external hard drives that, when plugged into my PC, work perfectly. Is it the mac? You will probably say no. But there's nothing wrong with the drives, either, and I was not and am still not prepared to purchase more hardware to make the machine work.

Thanks for trying to help and aristobrat, I'm not sure what you were getting at with that last sentence, but yes, I am carrying a 4.0 in a Business Information Systems program and have taught myself Photoshop along with many OS php programs. In fact, I do paid work installing ZenCart and Wordpress. So please don't insinuate that I am not capable. I am more than capable. If this were something I could work out without having to throw more money at it, perhaps I would. But all of the solutions I am being offered involve either large amounts of time or money, neither of which I have right now.

I am also a recent convert and I can say definitively that some (mostly cheaper) USB/IEE1394 external drives just will not work with mac. I don't know why, but they won't. It is really frustrating but I've found workarounds using a PC and different drives but I definitely feel your pain. My Mac Pro is a great machine but it isn't nearly as compatible with PC peripherals as preached by most of the Mac faithful.

flame away
 
I am also a recent convert and I can say definitively that some (mostly cheaper) USB/IEE1394 external drives just will not work with mac. I don't know why, but they won't. It is really frustrating but I've found workarounds using a PC and different drives but I definitely feel your pain. My Mac Pro is a great machine but it isn't nearly as compatible with PC peripherals as preached by most of the Mac faithful.

flame away

no flaming needed, but i don't think it's that the macs aren't compatible..it's that the device manufacturers don't make them for mac. i've seen plenty of externals that specifically say, for pc only. if yours indicates for both, then it's mac's fault. either way, it's a bummer.
 
I am also a recent convert and I can say definitively that some (mostly cheaper) USB/IEE1394 external drives just will not work with mac.
Cheaper external drives can be problematic, regardless of the operating system of the machine that they're attached to.
 
Mine does say Mac compatible. The thing is, I told everyone I talked to at the local Apple retailer that I'd be using an external hard drive and not one of them told me it might be an issue. That in itself is a huge frustration for me.

I do try to put my PC mind on the shelf, I really do...in fact, now, when I go to work on the PCs I use, I find myself looking for the maximize and minimize buttons on the upper left, LOL...and trying to use my Windows key instead of the CTRL key. As for letting the Mac take care of the details, that's why I am trying to use iPhoto...it's one of the things I really wanted the Mac to do for me...but it doesn't seem to be able to :( . I wanted an easy way to organize, view and print my photos and iPhoto provides that, IF it can see them. I don't understand this mess, though. There is no error message, I can see the photo if I click on it. It just won't show me the thumbnail...and it only seems to be one of the libraries that is doing this.
 
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