iPhoto on High Sierra?

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  1. jasnw macrumors 6502a

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    Is anyone successfully using iPhoto on High Sierra? I know it is supposedly compatible, but with the new filesystem I'm wondering if that might be a problem.
     
  2. Bending Pixels macrumors 65816

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    Apple stopped supporting/updating iPhoto (and Aperture) in June 2014 - time to move on to Photos or something else.
     
  3. jasnw thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I plan to move on to 'something else' but for now need to stay on iPhoto (Photos hides too much of what it has stored where it's hard or impossible to get at). I'm still running iPhoto just fine on El Cap, but haven't yet found what to replace iPhoto with. I'm not looking for support, just 'will it work on High Sierra?'
     
  4. Phil in ocala macrumors 6502a

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    I found that the cursor spins and spins when I try to open iPhoto under 10.13 High Sierra.
     
  5. CrickettGrrrl macrumors 6502a

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    Where did you see that iPhotos is compatible with High Sierra? I would love, love, love for this to be true as I'm sick of Photos hiding most of my images, among many other UX irritations.
     
  6. jasnw thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I believe it was in one of the threads in the High Sierra forum that addresses which apps are compatible (as in "they will run") with High Sierra. Being able to run is one thing, being fully-functional, or even mostly-functional, can be quite another. That's why I asked if there are any people who are actively using iPhoto on High Sierra.
     
  7. robgendreau macrumors 68040

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    iPhotos opens and runs for me in High Sierra. It's whatever the last version was, 9.6.1? Works both importing into a managed and also a referenced library.

    I don't get the "hiding" thing. Photos uses the same library structure/package as iPhotos, although updated a bit. It's just as easy or difficult to get at the images there in Photos as it was in iPhotos. It's true you have to use a managed (copy into...) library in Photos if you wanna use iCloud Photo Library, but you don't have to. You can reference images as well in folders out in the filesystem. Just like in iPhoto. Do you mean the interface just doesn't cut it for you? I could see that. Although with extensions it's far more capable than iPhoto.
     
  8. CrickettGrrrl macrumors 6502a

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    Hi Rob,

    For example, I use Faces or whatever it may be called in Photos to search out all the ones of my brother. I have tons which have been face tagged with his name. With Photos I only see a few, and scrolling down, the images get smaller & are arranged in some cutesy compositions. At least in iPhoto, I saw everything that was face tagged & at the same size.

    Perhaps there is some way to adjust the organization of a Faces view in Photos that is more basic & to me, functional. If so, I haven't found it. It would be great if one could set that basic layout as a default.

    I haven't updated to High Sierra & won't for a while, I'm using Sierra. Will iPhotos work in that or strictly HS?

    I'm not interested in Cloud library because I don't have an iPhone or multiple Apple devices which need to sync together various libraries. I just want iPhotos functionality that works well (as it used to do) on my iMac. Extensions are fine for quick things I guess. I have never had any objection to dragging an image from iPhoto onto any of my graphics apps for adjustments in the past, so the extensions aren't game changers to me.

    I kept older illustrations & past projects in iPhotos before updating to Sierra from Mavericks, and recently had trouble finding some things which I know to be in my iPhoto/Photos library. It's become more of a hassle & slowing things down.
     
  9. ZapNZs macrumors 68020

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    It's working fine for me - this was an in-place upgrade from El Cap to HS, converting the SSD to APFS in the process. iPhoto was installed on the system with El Cap - after the upgrade to HS, I tested it and it still worked without issue for the basic opening libraries, importing, exporting, and basic editing.
     
  10. CrickettGrrrl macrumors 6502a

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    Thanks SO MUCH for the head's up re iPhoto working on Sierra/High Sierra, guys.

    I just got iPhoto 9.61 downloaded & set up & it's just so great to be able to use that again rather than Photos. All the images are there to see & use.
    Happy, happy! :) :) :)
     
  11. jasnw thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    It's not the image files that are hidden away, those are easy to find (well, relatively so), it's information about the images - the metadata. In iPhoto, a lot of that is in an XML-format file (AlbumData.xml) which can be easily harvested once you figure out what's in there and the XML schema. I've written a number of scripts (python mostly) to harvest and reformat that information as needed. In Photos, this information appears to be stuffed in proprietary-format binary files and is not accessible. I'm also not fond of the Photos UI, not that I love the iPhoto UI but I've figured how to work around iPhoto after years of use and don't really feel like doing that again just because Apple decides to change gears. I don't use The Cloud (and won't ever) so all the Photos linkage in that direction are of no use or interest to me.
     
  12. trumpp macrumors newbie

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    My iphoto works fine on High Sierra also.my batch change works and putting names under pictures works fine.i know you can do this in photos but it’s a lot easier in iphoto!
     
  13. jasnw thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    OK, thanks. I guess Apple's going to let us stick with iPhoto for at least one more OS iteration.
     
  14. robgendreau macrumors 68040

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    Ugh, ugly. Props to you; I'd never even consider going through that struggle. In Lightroom or other such applications it's trivial to write the metadata to XMP in the files or sidecars and just use it from there. Or maybe extract using exiftool or Graphic Converter as needed. In fact, if I had to do extensive metadata work I'd use GC over Photos all the time. Most every other image program has the ability to write that stuff to where it's supposed to be; dunno why Photos won't.
     
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    I use exiftool to move information I've harvested out of iPhoto into the header information sections of image files. As you say, it would be nice if Apple's photo tools would do this on a consistent basis.
     
  16. poi ran macrumors newbie

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    I just tried iPhoto with HS, it does work, but some old videos recorded on my 10 year old camera won't play anymore. I get some error message (I have forgotten what, it was cryptic to me).

    The videos still play in iPhoto if I boot Sierra. (I dual boot Sierra and High Sierra).

    I wonder if it might have something to do with other software I have installed on Sierra, my High Sierra installation is "clean" still, I might have other versions of Quicktime, ffmpeg, and whatever, on my Sierra installation.
     
  17. bandjwest, Feb 2, 2018
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    --- Post Merged, Feb 2, 2018 ---
    Works fine
    Currently on external Seagate 1tb but check found it is starting to fail so about to copy to new Samsung SSD Tb 500gb
    --- Post Merged, Feb 2, 2018 ---
    Like others on here I have been reluctant to copy my 65,000 photos from iphoto to photos! (beware the unknown)
    In simple terms what can I expect if I do? Will those photos currently in albums remain in them for example?
    Would appreciate some help please

    Sorry also am I best to format my new T5 SSD as APFS? it will only be for photos but some scanned not in iphoto yet?
     

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