First, let me start by saying that I am giving up on iRiver. I'm going to get an iPod. This unfortunently, this means a part of me now hates myself for eternity. The part which wanted an iRiver. Anyway, I remember hearing that you could put an iPod mini in a 3G iPod dock, because the dock connector is the same (It wouldn't be a perfect fit in the dock, but it would work). Now, this should also mean that the 4G iPods should fit in the dock, because the only difference (in terms of what could affect it being placed in the dock), is the fact that the 4Gs are 1mm thinner. However, on the Apple Australia store (Where I was checking out prices), on the page where you could get additional items for your iPod, there is a new dock, that is said to work with the 4G iPods, and there is a warning on the old (3G) dock, that it won't work with the 4G iPods. Anyway, is there any actual reason why I couldn't put an iPod mini or iPod 4G in a 3G dock?