iPod HD with 20+ GB: do-it-yourself, buy, wait?

[AmbitiousLemon]

hopefully aac will solve some of the problems of people who desire "quality" better quality smaller size.

and as for the people who cant understand how anyone could possibly need ... i have to ask myself if you know what an iPod is. Its not just a mp3 player, its also a data shuttle. lots of people have 5GB of mp3s and if they put them all on the iPod you lose the data shuttle ability.

Im looking at storing roughly 5GB of music on the iPod installing OSX and all my maintenace apps (since you cant make an OSX maitenance CD) and leaving the rest of the space open for a data shuttle. This doesnt leave much room at all. technology permitting (which currently it doesnt with toshiba) iPods can get a lot bigger and be very useful.

I am still disappointed that apple went with toshiba to supply hard drives for the iPod. IBM is THE leader in portable drives and has beat all other companies in density and speed. They currently have 1GB and 5GB hard drive that are 1inch square. That would make a very small iPod(too small?), and if apple demanded im sure they could get a 10GB out. The prices are about the same as toshiba's drives as well.. and are expected to drop as they begin to be more widely used in digital cameras and pdas. Toshiba's drives will not likely find other markets so price could remain to be an issue. Also i would just like to see stronger ties between ibm and apple(hopeless romantic?).

all that being said i plan on buying a 10GB iPod soon, and use it as i described. and i plan on enjoying it for all of its uses not just for its ability to play music (although that's certainly cool).

 

[Paolo]

DID YOU NOT LISTEN(READ)

[post edited by moderator, please have respect for other users]
F-I-R-E-W-I-R-E
Firewire.
[post edited by moderator, please have respect for other users]
FIREWIRE.

You can put one gig of MP3's on your iPod and use four for Data, and then change the MP3's on the iPod, so really you missed a key feature on the ipod... I'll say it one last time

Firewire!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Chetwood]

Re: crap! <- speak for yourself, dude

Originally posted by Paolo
160kps is heaps, and generally the difference can't be picked up by the ear, unless on a very high quality speaker playing it VERY loud, which is unlikely if your playing it in your car, or headphones (unless you have sony earmuffs). Or if you plug it into a stereo system.
Plus that is the whole point of firewire!, you can keep changing your songs.... otherwise they would put it on USB!!!!!

(some people must only use half their brain)

I don't give a damn about your obviously limited capability of hearing, [post edited by moderator, please have respect for other users]. Suit yourself.

However, I thought I'd made myself clear that I'm not at all going to start a discussion about codecs and bitrates. Obviously you weren't clever enough to comprehend that nor the fact that I already appreciated the Firewire connection (problems with reading too? that's too bad) which would allow me to swap about at least 50% of my current mp3 base with the iPod if it would come with 20 GB.

So much about using your brain, slick...

 

[Paolo]

Oh dear

[post edited by moderator, please have respect for other users]. Don't assume anyhitng about my hearing or my taste in music... I said in general, that there isn't a huge difference in cd quality and 160kps Aurally!!!!!
[post edited by moderator, please have respect for other users], can't handle that small generalisation then just shut up, don't dribble this sh*t about my hearing or my taste in music. Just like [post edited by moderator, please have respect for other users] (hahahaha)

 

[Chetwood]

You really that dumb?

Originally posted by Paolo
okay I'll say this slowly so you can understand AmbitousLemon.
F-I-R-E-W-I-R-E
Firewire.
Did you get that... or would you like me to repeat one more time. (I'll assume the latter)
FIREWIRE.

You can put one gig of MP3's on your iPod and use four for Data, and then change the MP3's on the iPod, so really you missed a key feature on the ipod... I'll say it one last time

Firewire!!!!!!!!!!!

So the usage of exclamation marks valids your point? How old are you?

Contrary to you AmbitiousLemon seems quite capable of reading and even understanding what people just said. You seem to lack this since you came up with a totally pointless argument wasting everybody's time. So this is solely for you: some ppl would still like to carry MORE data around with them at once so it's no use to have to use the incredible FIREWIRE to remove stuff in exchange for new stuff. Got it now?

And please do not bother to post another pointless answer that makes you look even more retard in public cause I won't even bother to read it.

 

[Paolo]

Who uses four gigs!?

Okay I was just wondering, who needs to carry four gigs around with them!?

If you dedicate 1 gig to MP3's, okay, and change them as often as you can, then that should work out.

Then you have four gigs just for data.... how much data do you need to tranfer?

Oh dear chetwood, really you do crack me up with these replies like

" And please do not bother to post another pointless answer that makes you look even more retard in public cause I won't even bother to read it."

My answers are just as pointless as the next guys.... how many of these rumors do you think are going to be true... not too many... so this would make think you that there pretty pointless. Except for a bit of mental masturbation.

So really pathetic insults like that really don't mean much.

 

[AmbitiousLemon]

Paolo, please respect the other users here, i do not enjoy having to edit your posts removing line after line of your personal insults (i feel like im rumaging through someone's underware drawer when i do that). i do not wish to close this thread as there has been some good conversation so please keep the conversation civil or i will have no choice.

you have been warned.

 

[Paolo]

sorry ambitouslemon

Ummm, sorry if I annoyed you etc, but I was merely engaging in a (some what heated discussion) and I'm sure censored any bad language I used (I realise that doesn't do much, but still. It's the thought that counts!)

But one other thing, it's nice to see a moderator that removes 'personal insults' from on person and not another!!! Truley Ambitouslemon you must have noticed that I only started using personal insults when they were used on me. It's a bit discrimitive on your behalf to do what you've just done!!!!

 

[AmbitiousLemon]

paolo i think we both know your posts were more than excessive and really were not comparable to other minor slights others have used. but you have quite the mouth on you. we all would have cheered you in the locker room back in high school. its just not appropriate here. that cool?

[btw the posts were reported, so i was not the only one who found it over the top]

but please get back to the discussion.

i would want to say that i woudl typically "juice up" my ipod [assuming i get one] in the morning from home and want to use it during the day in the lab or in the field where i would not have access to a my own computer. i would like to keep a permanent copy of my maitenance tools so as to fix problems as they arise (usually unexpectedly) and i often need to transfer files much larger than i would ever reasonably expect an ipod to have room for. i would find it very inconvienent to erase the contents daily to change music and install the os and applications i need.

the firewire advantage would be for those large data transfers. i could carry probably about 2 gbs whenever the need would arise without worrying about space. i think it would be best for me to keep most of the data there whenever possible, especially considering that my music is at home.

if i needed to delete my music every time i need to transfer some data(which would require me to use a computer with iTunes on it, which is not on most of the computers in the lab) i wouldnt find it worthwhile. also if i had to install the os and all the applications over everytime, that would be a huge waste of my time. best to just have room for it all whenever i need it and know that it is always there should the need arise.

like i said i would leave about 1/2 open for music, use about 2-3gb for osx, os9 and associated apps, and have 2-3 gb open for data transfer.

with a 20gb drive i could leave much more open for space for data transfer.

it might even allow me to back up a computer's personal files wipe it and load everything back. this would be very nice in an environment where there are multiple users on a shared computer. these machine soften get messed up and need to be wiped, and backup is always a huge problem.

but basically i just want to say that there will always be a need for more space/power in computing, so you shouldnta ssume others dont need something just because you dont need it yourself.

 

[Paolo]

I take your point

That makes sense, I see where your coming from now, after you actually expanded on the point, but if your wanting something to back up an entire system why does it have to be portable (as in handheld). Surely you would just get a big (in physical and computer) harddrive that could hold 100gb, and back up EVERYTHING, why do you need to back up a system with a portable device!?

 

[AmbitiousLemon]

Re: I take your point

Originally posted by Paolo
why do you need to back up a system with a portable device!?

well although backing up the whole system would be very cool, mostly im thinking of just backing up personal files. and as for data transfers im usually thinking about various bits of data that often need to be taken home and such and then taken back.

but mostly im thinking that the ipod is very small. it will likley always be with me. so if a computer is freaking out (as old shared computers often do) i can just whip out the ipod from my back pocket back up the personal files, try to fix things with the ipod's disk tools, and fail that, wipe everything and reinstall the os. and then go along my merry way listening to my music.

so any sort of backup (within reason), maitenance, data transfer would be fair game for my ipod... and of course music (got to keep rockin' right?)

but you are right, backing up entire systems would be impossible with a current ipod, and is likely too much too ask.

but personal files can get fairly large sometimes so some extra space is nice [ i think most machines seem to have between 700mb and 6gb of personal files, depending on how much they are used].

but these are just my own needs, and as there are many others expressing a need for 10 GB and larger ipods i assume others have some need as well.