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iPod Mini Software Update?
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joeboy_45101
macrumors 6502
This is garbage on Apple's part. Weeks ago people were telling me that it MUST be impossible for Apple to bring the 3.0 software features to the 3Gen. iPods. This same group of people also said that it would be stupid to bring such features to older model iPods. But now they are saying this is a brilliant marketing plan for Apple, now that they are supporting an older iPod model. I thought being an Yes-Man was a characteristic only exclusive to the Windows world.
chuckzee said:
It will! no doubt!
unknowing mini users will see the update
cut off the REAl joke 😱
hehe
i hope apple doesnt break real.
and not for the immedieately seen reason.
real is bad.
very bad.
and apperently rhapsody isnt all that well implemented.
and it doesnt EFFECTIVELY work with ipod.
so...let people use it. and simply emphasize the first party goodness that it is a well designed stystem.
it would also be one big "i don't give a left loogie" to real.
i hope apple doesnt break real.
and not for the immedieately seen reason.
real is bad.
very bad.
and apperently rhapsody isnt all that well implemented.
and it doesnt EFFECTIVELY work with ipod.
so...let people use it. and simply emphasize the first party goodness that it is a well designed stystem.
it would also be one big "i don't give a left loogie" to real.
I misunderstood the last iPod update, thinking it put Shuffle on the main menu for minis too. Now at last it looks like I'll get what I thought I was already getting.
I'm going to guess that they won't have new code to detect Real tunes in the iPod Mini update, because I think they would issue updates for all iPods if and when they do that.
I'm going to guess that they won't have new code to detect Real tunes in the iPod Mini update, because I think they would issue updates for all iPods if and when they do that.
Stella said:
it's a tactical choice that Real's intrusion inspired.
Apple, I'm sure, didn't havve this update in there plans until Real broke the door down.
I think it's smart and good for mini users
morkintosh said:
Forgive me if this has already been asked, but wouldn't it be the consumers who purchased from Real the ones geting screwed?
JDOG_
macrumors 6502a
joeboy_45101 said:
The iPod mini is kind of a Gen 3.5 iPod when you think about it. It came out with a bunch of little hardware upgrades (like the clickwheel and a newer processor). It also sports a few of the features that the 3G doesn't have, like headphone recognition and USB 2.0 charging. So you see it is possible to bring the 3.0 software to minis (in the form of 1.2), but the mini's been around less than 8 months while the 3G iPod's been around a lot longer than that man--give em a brake.
iPod Mini
It may just be me but I've never really thought of my mini as a small 3G iPod, but rather the first 4G iPod, using the click wheel as the dicerning factor.
After all, didn't it's big brother just catch up?
So it seems only natural that the iPod Mini has the latest features available.
But maybe it's just me. 😕
~iGuy
It may just be me but I've never really thought of my mini as a small 3G iPod, but rather the first 4G iPod, using the click wheel as the dicerning factor.
After all, didn't it's big brother just catch up?
So it seems only natural that the iPod Mini has the latest features available.
But maybe it's just me. 😕
~iGuy
G4-power
macrumors 6502
Cool! Nice to hear the minis get the 4G features too, it's just a smaller 4G after all.
This doesn't affect me though, I bought a 4G one last month, just waiting it to ship, should be today...I never was in the iPod mini market anyway. They're in many ways superior (durable alu casing, weight, size) to the normal iPods, but I can't fit 6.7 gigs of music, plus my home directory on that. And I just couldn't wait 3 months for the mini arriving to Finland.
Speaking of waiting, I got an e-mail from Apple telling that "due to huge demand for this product" my shipping date was being moved from 18th to 20th August, not a big change, but still. And I haven't yet got an Shipping confirmation e-mail. Can't wait...! What's weird is, that it's not only the iPod (wait 6-8 days), but the new 4G dock and 4G 20 GB case (wait 1-2 weeks). Also, the In-Ear headphones had a longwaiting time, 6-8 days. I have been already waiting nearly 3 weeks though, my order was dated 29th July. Lucky I'm not on the PowerMac delays though...
This doesn't affect me though, I bought a 4G one last month, just waiting it to ship, should be today...I never was in the iPod mini market anyway. They're in many ways superior (durable alu casing, weight, size) to the normal iPods, but I can't fit 6.7 gigs of music, plus my home directory on that. And I just couldn't wait 3 months for the mini arriving to Finland.
Speaking of waiting, I got an e-mail from Apple telling that "due to huge demand for this product" my shipping date was being moved from 18th to 20th August, not a big change, but still. And I haven't yet got an Shipping confirmation e-mail. Can't wait...! What's weird is, that it's not only the iPod (wait 6-8 days), but the new 4G dock and 4G 20 GB case (wait 1-2 weeks). Also, the In-Ear headphones had a longwaiting time, 6-8 days. I have been already waiting nearly 3 weeks though, my order was dated 29th July. Lucky I'm not on the PowerMac delays though...
morkintosh said:
The earlier apple "fixes" their problem with Real the better for apple. The more people that have songs from REAL on their iPod the more people are going to cry and whine and cause apple problems.
vienna
macrumors newbie
Lancetx said:
You'd think that Apple could update the firmware easy enough to just not play any 192K encoded songs with DRM as they must have come from Real. Any 128k encoded songs with DRM would be from iTMS and would still play fine. Also any 192k songs that people encoded themselves would not have any DRM and would still play just fine.
nagromme
macrumors G5
bankshot said:
I'd REALLY like crossfade. So many songs end choppily when taken out of order. iTunes' crossfade for 2 seconds makes my music less intrusive and choppy between songs.
I'd also like iTunes custom equalizers to show up on iPod. So you can custom-adjust for different headphones, noise conditions, etc. (I don't even care whether you can set EQ levels on the iPod itself.)
Stella
macrumors G3
Apple did warn people -
DO NOT BUY AAC FILES FROM REAL.. THEY MAY NOT WORK IN THE FUTURE.
So really, Apple aren't screwing them - they have been warned, and they can still play these files in Realplayer - just not on iPod.
Originally Posted by MacKenzie999
Forgive me if this has already been asked, but wouldn't it be the consumers who purchased from Real the ones geting screwed?
Yes. Next question.
DO NOT BUY AAC FILES FROM REAL.. THEY MAY NOT WORK IN THE FUTURE.
So really, Apple aren't screwing them - they have been warned, and they can still play these files in Realplayer - just not on iPod.
Porchland said:
Originally Posted by MacKenzie999
Forgive me if this has already been asked, but wouldn't it be the consumers who purchased from Real the ones geting screwed?
Yes. Next question.
The whole REAL thing is overstated
it's not widely realized that REAL has very few customers compared to ITMS. I don't see how this can be bad for Apple. Yes, it's bad that the copy protection was cracked, but the only thing that Harmony will really do is allow it's users to use the iPod. This will only sell more iPods for Apple. As long as other groups don't start cracking the iPod, this developement isn't that bad at all for Apple. What's happening to Apple here is the equivalent of them licensing other computer makers to make macs, but the difference is that Apple isn't allowing it. When IBM licensed the PC to other companies, it was good for their business. then they screwed up and had to basically withdraw from it, but hopefully Apple won't have to do that.
it's not widely realized that REAL has very few customers compared to ITMS. I don't see how this can be bad for Apple. Yes, it's bad that the copy protection was cracked, but the only thing that Harmony will really do is allow it's users to use the iPod. This will only sell more iPods for Apple. As long as other groups don't start cracking the iPod, this developement isn't that bad at all for Apple. What's happening to Apple here is the equivalent of them licensing other computer makers to make macs, but the difference is that Apple isn't allowing it. When IBM licensed the PC to other companies, it was good for their business. then they screwed up and had to basically withdraw from it, but hopefully Apple won't have to do that.
I agree with you
I love the crossfade feature on itunes, I wish Apple would put it in the ipods... 😎
nagromme said:
I love the crossfade feature on itunes, I wish Apple would put it in the ipods... 😎
SiliconAddict
macrumors 603
Hi guys. Question. How does Apple notify, if at all, users of new firmware on their iPods? Is it an iTunes feature? Sort of like a notification prompt? I ask because releasing a "fix" for harmony is all well and good but how many users would know about the new firmware to install it? If Apple is looking at breaking harmony across the board they need to have it installed on as many iPods as possible otherwise they are going to simply confuse users:
Joe: "Dude, have you tried Real's music for .50 cents?"
Bob: "Nope it doesn't work on my iPod"
Joe: "But it works on mine and Franks, you must have a busted iPod."
Something along those lines. 😕
Joe: "Dude, have you tried Real's music for .50 cents?"
Bob: "Nope it doesn't work on my iPod"
Joe: "But it works on mine and Franks, you must have a busted iPod."
Something along those lines. 😕
pyrotoaster
macrumors 65816
There's nothing "yes-man" about it.joeboy_45101 said:
It makes sense for Apple to update the software on the mini, because they didn't release a new iPod mini.
The mini and the regular iPod are not related the same way the 3G and the 4G iPods are. They're two different product lines. Coexisiting at the same time.
On the hardware side of things, you should realize that the mini's are more like the 4G than the 3G on the inside. Much of the technology and design packed into the 4G iPod has been adapted from that of the mini. The 3G iPod was eight months old when the mini was introduced, while the mini was only six months old when the 4G iPod was released.
You might not like the fact that Apple won't update the 3G iPod's software, but there's no reason for Apple to do it. From a business standpoint (remember, Apple is a company), the best thing for Apple to do is let the older models get outdated so people have a reason to upgrade.
The only thing this update for the mini means is that Apple won't release new mini's any time soon.
I have it in My Hard Drive
Its in Software Update. But my wife has the iPod with her so I can't update my 3G if there are any from the last update. 🙁
Its in Software Update. But my wife has the iPod with her so I can't update my 3G if there are any from the last update. 🙁
bankshot said:
I dont have an ipod (yet - c'mon 60gb!), but I recently set up airport express and this gap issue is driving me nuts. never heard anyone mention in before anywhere - glad it's not just me. itunes can obviously buffer enough to deal with this - you can set a 12 second cross fade. it really surprises me that these gaps exist - as you said, if cds fixed the problem 20 years ago...
sorry for off-topic....